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Old 5 April 2017, 02:43 AM   #1
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I apologise if you are sick of this,but... 214270 - fake or gen according to serial?

Hi guys, I am more an Omega guys, so nothing as knowledge based on Rolex.

Anyway, I saw an add for 214270 Explorer with lumed 3,6,9 markers.
Serial number is 8W329480 , yes, it starts with number,not with letter.

The seller said he cannot remove the bracelet , it`s 300 miles away from me,he doesn`t want to go any AD to check teh watch. Some certain signals something is not right.

Anyway, still hoping in miracle to happen.It has just box and the seal,but not papers or whatsoever. The serial is engraved on the rehaut around 6 o`clock,but according to my research - no number starts with a digit, and then a letter, or I am wrong maybe?

The price is too good to be true - 2K. Maybe just another fake,hmm?
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, though.

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Old 5 April 2017, 03:37 AM   #2
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Hi guys, I am more an Omega guys, so nothing as knowledge based on Rolex.

Anyway, I saw an add for 214270 Explorer with lumed 3,6,9 markers.
Serial number is 8W329480 , yes, it starts with number,not with letter.

The seller said he cannot remove the bracelet , it`s 300 miles away from me,he doesn`t want to go any AD to check teh watch. Some certain signals something is not right.

Anyway, still hoping in miracle to happen.It has just box and the seal,but not papers or whatsoever. The serial is engraved on the rehaut around 6 o`clock,but according to my research - no number starts with a digit, and then a letter, or I am wrong maybe?

The price is too good to be true - 2K. Maybe just another fake,hmm?
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, though.

Later, Dim
All Rolex watches from the latter part of 2010 will have a 8 digit serial a mixture of letters and numbers its called random serial and can start with a letter or number.
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Old 5 April 2017, 03:45 AM   #3
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If its too good to be true, it usually is. Steer clear.
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Old 5 April 2017, 03:46 AM   #4
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I wouldn't walk from that deal, I would run. That sounds extremely sketchy.
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Old 5 April 2017, 03:47 AM   #5
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I would pass on it.
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Old 5 April 2017, 04:17 AM   #6
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Can't tell from just the serial.
Too good to be true.
Excuses, distance etc.
Bail.
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That's way too good to be true. Something's not right.
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Old 5 April 2017, 04:29 AM   #8
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For reference, my 214270 (circa 2011) has a serial number starting with 7.

That being said, $2k for a watch less than a year old that retails for $6k+? Couple possibilities:
1) It's stolen, seller doesn't want to risk bringing it to AD for verification in case the owner reported it
2) It's fake
3) It's been horribly damaged to the point where it would cost more to fix it than it's worth

My money is on 1 or 2. I'd stay away if I were you.
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Old 5 April 2017, 04:32 AM   #9
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Run away from this. Seems like a scam.
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Old 5 April 2017, 04:35 AM   #10
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Yeah. Likely a replica being passed off as genuine. Any pictures of the watch? Where is the ad posted ?

If it's too good to be true........
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Old 5 April 2017, 05:10 AM   #11
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That's way too good to be true. Something's not right.


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Old 5 April 2017, 06:15 AM   #13
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Gumtree is the place for this.
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Old 5 April 2017, 06:20 AM   #14
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It doesn't look fake, therefore it's stolen.

Ask him why he's selling it so cheap.
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Old 5 April 2017, 06:27 AM   #15
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wait, shouldn't short hands 214270 has no lumes in 369 ?
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Old 5 April 2017, 06:28 AM   #16
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Thanks guys. Is there a possibility to check whether it's stolen or not?
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Old 5 April 2017, 07:08 AM   #17
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and new version should also have the smooth clasp not rough.
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Old 5 April 2017, 07:10 AM   #18
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wait, shouldn't short hands 214270 has no lumes in 369 ?
I was thinking the same thing. The clasp should be polished, not frosted. Unless it's just the picture. Lume does look pretty good.
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Old 5 April 2017, 07:14 AM   #20
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Thanks guys. Is there a possibility to check whether it's stolen or not?
I don't think Rolex will give you that kind of info over the phone. If you go to the RSC with the watch, and it is stolen, they may confiscate it.

I'm far from an expert, but I do have one from last year. With that dial, should have longer hands and polished clasp.
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Nothing wrong with the serial number, and the pictured watch looks like it is authentic..

That said, there is also no guarantee that this is the watch that you will actually receive; they are just pictures.
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Old 5 April 2017, 07:22 AM   #22
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More pics from seller.
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Old 5 April 2017, 07:29 AM   #23
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Those are definitely short hands, that shouldn't be on the latest model with the lumed arabics. Also, the inside of the clasp shouldn't have a blasted finish. This is a fake or frankenwatch. Stay away! Also, why does it have a calander from 2014?
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I would stay away if I were u, tag is wrong for the new Explorer, they come with the green chronometer tag and also the calendar used to be given with the old models not the new ones.


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Nothing wrong with the serial number, and the pictured watch looks like it is authentic..

That said, there is also no guarantee that this is the watch that you will actually receive; they are just pictures.
214270 with short hands never had 369 lumed. Its a clear fake IMHO!!
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Old 5 April 2017, 07:36 AM   #26
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Thank you for the help,guys.
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Old 5 April 2017, 07:41 AM   #27
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I agree with the others above. It is either fake or franken due to the incorrect hands and clasp. Too good to be true is always your first and best indication even if it looks 100% real...like others have said its probably stolen. Run!
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Old 5 April 2017, 07:43 AM   #28
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Mitadoc,
I'm no expert either but I have a few observations.
1. The serial number that is engraved at 6 o'clock on the rehaut flange appears too tightly packed the 8 characters should be more spaced out.
2. The bracelet screws do not finish completely flush on either the screw head or the tail ends. They are also badly marred.
3. The locking clasp on the bracelet on the pic above does not align with the main portion of the clasp. It should. It could have been damaged.
4. The gaps between the 8 rectangular "plain" markers and their corresponding minute chapter marks are inconsistent.
If in doubt... don't
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I was thinking the same thing about the sandblasted clasp. Lumed 3/6/9 shouldn't have that. My guess is it's a dial replacement/frankenwatch. Regardless, stay away.
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Old 5 April 2017, 08:11 AM   #30
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This is a fake with gen hands from the MK1.

Like everyone has said, stay away.
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