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ChronGo · 7 April 2017, 11:30 AM

While I own Panerai's, I am NOT an expert on how to identify fakes through pictures. I can, and have, in person, but not pictures. This action is about to end. Can anyone help me here and give your views WHY it is or isn't real? Much appreciated!!!!

ChronGo · 7 April 2017, 11:50 AM

tracked down what i think they say it is: http://www.paneraiclassicyachtschall...atta-44mm-2005

nick c · 7 April 2017, 11:52 AM

Doesn't look kosher to me

ChronGo · 7 April 2017, 11:53 AM

pics of watch i think it is (that is authentic).

ChronGo · 7 April 2017, 11:55 AM

is it common to create replicas for a watch that was clearly built for a special edition (and one I have not seen before, but know it exists?)

ChronGo · 7 April 2017, 12:11 PM

fake fake fake! Thanks all from all forums. ALL SET!

mfer · 7 April 2017, 01:23 PM

Yeah, that isn't good. There are 3 easy tells.

clyde2801 · 7 April 2017, 10:36 PM

panerai subforum on watchuseek has some pretty knowledgeable people on it. Post it on the 'is this real' thread if you have any doubts.

uzona · 7 April 2017, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

Yeah, that isn't good. There are 3 easy tells.

Curious what caught your idea as fakey?

Cru Jones · 8 April 2017, 12:25 AM

Pretty random model to fake, but, there you have it.

Tommyk · 8 April 2017, 03:13 AM

Im no expert but it doesn't look good to me. There were a couple areas that caught my eye. The pin in the crown guard should be more flush. The detailing on the movement isn't finished as highly at what I've seen on authentic pieces. Panerai also will typically write what movement they are using on the rotor Example : (OPII) The teeth on the crown are usually machined with more precision. Also the magnification doesn't look like what I've seen on others.
The movement is the biggest area of concern for me though.

If you have the watch in person the easiest way to tell is by feeling the movement on the crown guard clasp. it should feel extremely stable when pulled out with zero play. Also when you push it back in the lever should feel snappy and very crisp.

Im no expert and there are some amazing talent on watchuseek like clyde said.

If I'm wrong and then i hope that i don't look like an idiot.

mfer · 8 April 2017, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uzona

Curious what caught your idea as fakey?

Crown guard, sub dials, movement, date pusher on side case is huge giveaway because a real PAM 222 doesn't have that!

Pattyb69 · 8 April 2017, 03:40 AM

Why does it say "Panera" on the caseback? lol

Tommyk · 8 April 2017, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pattyb69

Why does it say "Panera" on the caseback? lol

HAHAHA good catch.
Maybe its a limited edition Panera model celebrating that Krispy Kreme just acquired them.

mfer · 8 April 2017, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pattyb69

Why does it say "Panera" on the caseback? lol

7 April 2017, 11:30 AM	#1
ChronGo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Carl Location: DMV Watch: 5167A Posts: 84	Urgent help needed! While I own Panerai's, I am NOT an expert on how to identify fakes through pictures. I can, and have, in person, but not pictures. This action is about to end. Can anyone help me here and give your views WHY it is or isn't real? Much appreciated!!!! Attached Images __________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." -- Mark Twain

7 April 2017, 11:50 AM	#2
ChronGo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Carl Location: DMV Watch: 5167A Posts: 84	tracked down what i think they say it is: http://www.paneraiclassicyachtschall...atta-44mm-2005 __________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." -- Mark Twain

7 April 2017, 11:53 AM	#4
ChronGo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Carl Location: DMV Watch: 5167A Posts: 84	pics of watch i think it is (that is authentic). Attached Images __________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." -- Mark Twain

7 April 2017, 11:55 AM	#5
ChronGo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Carl Location: DMV Watch: 5167A Posts: 84	is it common to create replicas for a watch that was clearly built for a special edition (and one I have not seen before, but know it exists?) __________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." -- Mark Twain

7 April 2017, 12:11 PM	#6
ChronGo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Carl Location: DMV Watch: 5167A Posts: 84	fake fake fake! Thanks all from all forums. ALL SET! __________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." -- Mark Twain

7 April 2017, 11:52 AM	#3
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Doesn't look kosher to me

7 April 2017, 01:23 PM	#7
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Yeah, that isn't good. There are 3 easy tells. __________________ member#3242

7 April 2017, 10:36 PM	#8
clyde2801 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: USA Posts: 51	panerai subforum on watchuseek has some pretty knowledgeable people on it. Post it on the 'is this real' thread if you have any doubts.

8 April 2017, 12:25 AM	#10
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,297	Pretty random model to fake, but, there you have it.

8 April 2017, 03:13 AM	#11
Tommyk "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Tom Location: SoCal South O.C. Posts: 162	Im no expert but it doesn't look good to me. There were a couple areas that caught my eye. The pin in the crown guard should be more flush. The detailing on the movement isn't finished as highly at what I've seen on authentic pieces. Panerai also will typically write what movement they are using on the rotor Example : (OPII) The teeth on the crown are usually machined with more precision. Also the magnification doesn't look like what I've seen on others. The movement is the biggest area of concern for me though. If you have the watch in person the easiest way to tell is by feeling the movement on the crown guard clasp. it should feel extremely stable when pulled out with zero play. Also when you push it back in the lever should feel snappy and very crisp. Im no expert and there are some amazing talent on watchuseek like clyde said. If I'm wrong and then i hope that i don't look like an idiot.

8 April 2017, 03:40 AM	#13
Pattyb69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: CT Watch: BLNR\|LVC\|PAM 911 Posts: 1,085	Why does it say "Panera" on the caseback? lol

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