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Old 2 August 2017, 01:07 AM   #1
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Another scammer with AP 15300

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=552045

This is the second scammer I've come across recently trying to offer a 15300 way undermarket. Probably a fake too but not sure.
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Old 2 August 2017, 01:14 AM   #2
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Watch is genuine. Way under priced though.
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Old 2 August 2017, 01:43 AM   #3
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Watch is genuine. Way under priced though.
Not sure how you can authenticate without a movement photo.
That model is the best faked case and dial I ever saw, only the movement can tell.

PS - I got NO idea if its a scam, but surprised no movement photo on an exhibition back and gold rotor
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Old 2 August 2017, 02:24 AM   #4
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I live within driving distance of the OPs location and offered to come meet him today with cash. He said he's on business until the weekend. It's a scam and if it's not I'll eat my boots with ketchup.
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Old 2 August 2017, 02:56 AM   #5
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I live within driving distance of the OPs location and offered to come meet him today with cash. He said he's on business until the weekend. It's a scam and if it's not I'll eat my boots with ketchup.
Then you should report him by clicking the small triangle at the bottom left of each post.

I can not, as the photos neither authenticate nor counterfeit it

Suggest you report
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Old 2 August 2017, 03:01 AM   #6
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I live within driving distance of the OPs location and offered to come meet him today with cash. He said he's on business until the weekend. It's a scam and if it's not I'll eat my boots with ketchup.
I'd like to see a video of that.
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Not sure how you can authenticate without a movement photo.
That model is the best faked case and dial I ever saw, only the movement can tell.

PS - I got NO idea if its a scam, but surprised no movement photo on an exhibition back and gold rotor
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Adam I don't mean to be rude but this is the second time you have doubted my knowledge when it comes to AP's..

The watch in the photos is 100% authentic. The listing may be a scam as it's under priced by a good margin. Show me a fake 15300 that even comes close to the case thickness of that with a date disc that looks exactly like that. It doesn't exist buddy. 15400's on the other hand, yes, I agree, we may need to see a movement shot. Even those have a thicker case back than the genuine article, all of them, and it sticks out like a sore thumb. Just because you can't tell without a movement shot, it doesn't mean others can't.
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Old 2 August 2017, 03:39 AM   #8
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Adam I don't mean to be rude but this is the second time you have doubted my knowledge when it comes to AP's..

The watch in the photos is 100% authentic. The listing may be a scam as it's under priced by a good margin. Show me a fake 15300 that even comes close to the case thickness of that with a date disc that looks exactly like that. It doesn't exist buddy. 15400's on the other hand, yes, I agree, we may need to see a movement shot. Even those have a thicker case back than the genuine article, all of them, and it sticks out like a sore thumb. Just because you can't tell without a movement shot, it doesn't mean others can't.
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And its never my intention to be rude - sorry to that.
Yes, I need to see the movement
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And its never my intention to be rude - sorry to that.
Yes, I need to see the movement
Apologies if my post came across as hostile. It wasn't meant to be.
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Old 2 August 2017, 05:58 AM   #10
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i dont know if it is a scam or not but it is way undervalued.
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Old 2 August 2017, 06:07 AM   #11
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Apologies if my post came across as hostile. It wasn't meant to be.
No worries my bad - apologies.
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I've seen many 300 fakes and they don't look as good as this so I think it is real. I am very aware there was no movement pic so if the watch is underpriced I doubt you will get sent a real watch anyway as that would be too easy to compare.
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The watch looks real but the post may be a scam
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I live within driving distance of the OPs location and offered to come meet him today with cash. He said he's on business until the weekend. It's a scam and if it's not I'll eat my boots with ketchup.
Hi Tom,

I also live within driving distance of the seller. I twice offered to do a face to face transaction but on both occasions, he has ignored them. So I too have a hunch this may be a scammer.
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Old 2 August 2017, 09:42 AM   #15
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Hacked/phished account again. Thanks for being alert!
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Hacked/phished account again. Thanks for being alert!
Thanks for the confirmation Adam. This is the second 15300 scammer with a price just under 10k I've come across in the past month or so. Probably the same guy.

Underpriced on a very liquid reference and a phone number or outside email is always a hint. Be careful guys
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I'd like to see a video of that.
I've made the offer a few times. Usually I specify my red wings but seeing as this ones in the bag I'll make it some trickers
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Thanks for the confirmation Adam. This is the second 15300 scammer with a price just under 10k I've come across in the past month or so. Probably the same guy.

Underpriced on a very liquid reference and a phone number or outside email is always a hint. Be careful guys
Yep, he's been picked up more than once. Thanks again.
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has to be a scam. I could walk into any random watch shop here and get $10,000 for that
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has to be a scam. I could walk into any random watch shop here and get $10,000 for that
You mean $12,000...total scam!
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Wasn't able to find the FS thread but how much was he asking?
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wasn't able to find the fs thread but how much was he asking?
9,750$
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The price isn't too far off from what a friend of mine was offered on the jewelry district, 47th st in NYC. He was there to trade in his blue dial 15300st and the most he was offered was 9,500.
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Yea i know.
Many of these members, here, buy very expensive, they don`t know how good and valuable is "secondary market".
A small price doesn`t mean 100% scam.
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The price isn't too far off from what a friend of mine was offered on the jewelry district, 47th st in NYC. He was there to trade in his blue dial 15300st and the most he was offered was 9,500.
You'd be a fool to sell a watch with stone cold residuals like a 15300 at Vladdys diamonds.

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Yea i know.
Many of these members, here, buy very expensive, they don`t know how good and valuable is "secondary market".
A small price doesn`t mean 100% scam.
It generally does here on the forum. Most who post for sale ads here have done their research and are informed sellers. If you have a good condition full set 1500 blue dial and you take 10k for it, you're leaving a great deal of money on the table.
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