Is my 116010LN real?

[won01419]

Hello all,
I'm relatively new to this forum and have a question for y'all experts.
I recently purchased a pre-owned submariner from the other forum and I just want to make sure this is authentic submariner. Because there are very good replicas out there, i'm just a bit paranoid I guess. Does having matching serials on watch, warranty card and white barcode thingy means it's authentic rolex?

Thank you all in advance!

[GLADIATOR]

Nope - I have fakes with matching warranty card
And there are some things that raise my alarm and point to fake.
Lets here what others say

[kevinbb19]

Difficult to tell. A couple photos of the movement would help.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by kevinbb19

Difficult to tell. A couple photos of the movement would help.

Movement photos would not just "help" but categorically affirm or deny.

Based on poor dial shots there are 3 or 4 issues of concern

[kevinbb19]

I've seen a few non-genuine cases that have had genuine movements installed in them. Some people will go to great lengths to add genuine parts to non-genuine cases, so I'm not sure I would be comfortable saying it was "categorically" genuine based on movement photos along with what is here, but it would be another bit of evidence.

[won01419]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Nope - I have fakes with matching warranty card
And there are some things that raise my alarm and point to fake.
Lets here what others say

fakes with matching warranty card? That's absolutely scary..

[won01419]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Movement photos would not just "help" but categorically affirm or deny.

Based on poor dial shots there are 3 or 4 issues of concern

Would you mind elaborating more on concerns you see from the pictures?

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by won01419

Would you mind elaborating more on concerns you see from the pictures?

Sorry. I dont elaborate.
There are 3 issues that worry me.

[Kyle13]

I’ll back up gladiator on this. The watch is fake sorry. I would run back to whoever you bought it from and demand your money back.


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[socalwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by won01419

Would you mind elaborating more on concerns you see from the pictures?

Elaborating is against forum rules...

I see a couple of potential issues as well but again better pics are needed.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by socalwatchcollector

Elaborating is against forum rules...

I see a couple of potential issues as well but again better pics are needed.

No, I dont think its a "written" rule - just the way we tend to work here
A

[socalwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

No, I dont think its a "written" rule - just the way we tend to work here
A

Yea I know, but it's getting out of hand with people wanting us to dissect it in detail every time they are unsure. Fraud is bad enough as it is.

Petition for a new rule

And good work as always

[springer]

There are fake Sub ceramics being sold that fool watchmakers, pawn shops, dealers and, of course, even the Rolex guys. They sell for around $500 - $600. The movements are also very good but with that said, the savy counterfeiters are buying Datejusts and swapping the movements with the Subs.

They sell the Subs for around $4500 and sell the Datejusts for close to what they have in it - although the Datejust now has the fake movement.

Also happening with GMTs too.

Be careful out there everyone, be very careful. Especially you bargain basement shoppers - which are plenty these days.

[cht]

Looks fine to me.

What year is this dated on the card?

This looks like the newer laser matrix engraving on the case.

The Rehaut engraving is spot on, font, location, position and size. So, case appears genuine, as does the bezel engravings and color. crystal looks gen, date centered perfect.

[A3MED]

I can see the rolex crown laser etched at 6 (pic #5).

[won01419]

Originally Posted by cht

Looks fine to me.

What year is this dated on the card?

This looks like the newer laser matrix engraving on the case.

The Rehaut engraving is spot on, font, location, position and size. So, case appears genuine, as does the bezel engravings and color. crystal looks gen, date centered perfect.

It's dated July, 2017. Also, US AD is stamped as well..

[rexG]

if this is fake....then I have a lot to learn. WOW!

[won01419]

Originally Posted by rexG

if this is fake....then I have a lot to learn. WOW!

I know right? me too

[won01419]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Nope - I have fakes with matching warranty card
And there are some things that raise my alarm and point to fake.
Lets here what others say

Gladiator,
Do your fake warranty cards have AD stamps?


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[Dave-B]

I honestly can’t see anything wrong with the watch?

[rolexforum73]

To my eyes that looks spot on. Be keen to hear why others think not.

[tommy91]

This isn't a fake, give us some clasp and movement pictures if possible but on the pictures you have submitted its fine

[razmy3]

...looks like a laser crown to me too..pic #5

[yannis]

I am not an expert like other friends here but it looks ok to me. As others said check movement and throw some clasp photos it would help them evaluate more clearly. Hard to tell by photos but if it is a fake it is a flipping good one.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Sorry. I dont elaborate.
There are 3 issues that worry me.

Just go ahead and say what those three issues are.

[won01419]

Originally Posted by tommy91

This isn't a fake, give us some clasp and movement pictures if possible but on the pictures you have submitted its fine

Here are some photos.

[tommy91]

Originally Posted by won01419

Here are some photos.

All looks good, wouldn't worry about this one at all

[kauffee]

I’m staring back and forth between these pics and my own SubC and it looks absolutely perfect. Even the grain on the bezel teeth looks exact. I know there are some good fakes, but I’d be shocked if this is one of them.

[tommy91]

Originally Posted by kauffee

I’m staring back and forth between these pics and my own SubC and it looks absolutely perfect. Even the grain on the bezel teeth looks exact. I know there are some good fakes, but I’d be shocked if this is one of them.

It's not a fake, people shouldn't advise this unless they have 100% cause for alarm.

[ckaynyc]

If that's a fake, that is the best fake I have ever seen.