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jim946 · 21 October 2008, 03:35 AM

Beside color configurations, what are the differences between these two models?

What makes the Yachtmaster for boating?

What is the number dial around the watch for? does it move?

Great site, thanks for any help you can offer.

Jim

akhamdani · 21 October 2008, 03:42 AM

Hi Jim,welcome to TRF

.Sub is diver watch,water proof to 300 meter,possible to get it as SS.Classic Proffesional Rolex.

Jocke · 21 October 2008, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim946

Beside color configurations, what are the differences between these two models?

What makes the Yachtmaster for boating?

What is the number dial around the watch for? does it move?

Great site, thanks for any help you can offer.

Jim

The YM is a countdown watch when you start a yacht race.

The Sub is a diver watch.

So YM is over water and Sub is under water.

Jocke

Jedi · 21 October 2008, 04:56 AM

Well, just to play Devil's Advocate:

the YM could be seen as a dressed up Sub with the use of the noble metal Platinum. Water resistance is also less as the caseback is different.... right?

mpkRolex · 21 October 2008, 04:56 AM

Both are used to measure time intervals. Here are the differences.

Sub: Waterproof to more depth 300mts. Subtle Rolex and highly recognized. Highly sought after (arguably the most sought after Rolex). More of a daily watch.

YM: Waterproof to 100mts. Dressy and has a bling factor. Heavier than Sub due to titanium. Holds good value but not as good as sub (this could be argued). Expensive than Sub.

I cant afford YM at the moment but enjoy my 16610. YM is on my wish list though.

Good luck!!!

jim946 · 21 October 2008, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

The YM is a countdown watch when you start a yacht race.

The Sub is a diver watch.

So YM is over water and Sub is under water.

Jocke

What do the dials represent? Do they turn? Also the GMT Master II... seems like they are all similar except the numbers on the outside dial (which I don't understand).

Are the prices similar?

jim946 · 21 October 2008, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mpkRolex

Both are used to measure time intervals. Here are the differences.

Sub: Waterproof to more depth 300mts. Subtle Rolex and highly recognized. Highly sought after (arguably the most sought after Rolex). More of a daily watch.

YM: Waterproof to 100mts. Dressy and has a bling factor. Heavier than Sub due to titanium. Holds good value but not as good as sub (this could be argued). Expensive than Sub.

I cant afford YM at the moment but enjoy my 16610. YM is on my wish list though.

Good luck!!!

... and the GMT Master II? How does that fit in the lineup?

Jocke · 21 October 2008, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jim946

... and the GMT Master II? How does that fit in the lineup?

That one is for singles, it´s the only reason to have use for 4 hands.

Jocke

mpkRolex · 21 October 2008, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jim946

... and the GMT Master II? How does that fit in the lineup?

GMTIIc is the newest twinkie in the lineup with ceramic bezel and improved band. It currently has a high demand. If you travel within timezones it is a perfect travel watch.

At the present time I would rate them as below
No.1 - GMTIIc
No.2 - Sub
No.3 - YM

But that is just me

Quicksilver · 21 October 2008, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jim946

... and the GMT Master II? How does that fit in the lineup?

The GMT II is designed with the international traveler in mind. The bezel and the third hand make it possible to track the time in 2 additional time zones. It was originaly designed for airline pilots.

Welcome to the forum.

BigHat · 21 October 2008, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mpkRolex

YM: Waterproof to 100mts. Dressy and has a bling factor. Heavier than Sub due to titanium. Holds good value but not as good as sub (this could be argued). Expensive than Sub.

I cant afford YM at the moment but enjoy my 16610. YM is on my wish list though.

Good luck!!!

Heavier due to Ti? Neither watch has any Ti to my knowledge and Ti is lighter than SS anyway. Might you mean the YM is slightly heavier due to the platinum bezel? I'm not even sure that's true, but at least it would make sense.

James T · 21 October 2008, 05:50 AM

welcome to the forum!

Time Traveller · 21 October 2008, 06:06 AM

Welcome to the forum!

DSJ · 21 October 2008, 06:15 AM

I just noticed that the TT YM also has an SS crown, whereas the Submariner's is gold - is that true? If so, why?

JJ Irani · 21 October 2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DSJ

I just noticed that the TT YM also has an SS crown, whereas the Submariner's is gold - is that true? If so, why?

Good question, but don't know why. It's true - the TT YM has an SS crown.....but the full gold YM has a gold crown.

JJ

redshirt1957 · 21 October 2008, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Good question, but don't know why. It's true - the TT YM has an SS crown.....but the full gold YM has a gold crown.

JJ

Gold covered crown to be a wee bit more exact

Tools · 21 October 2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by redshirt1957

Gold covered crown to be a wee bit more exact

Yep..

If you break your crown this is what they look like... (Well, I hear that the newer ones are machined with a steel insert pressed in.. but I haven't broken one of those.....er, I mean seen one of those broken..)

JJ Irani · 21 October 2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Yep..

If you break your crown this is what they look like... (Well, I hear that the newer ones are machined with a steel insert pressed in.. but I haven't broken one of those.....er, I mean seen one of those broken..)

Nice pic, Larry.

The new ones are called MONOBLOC construction where an 18 K gold cap is fitted over the inner steel crown which naturally has steel threads.

JJ

Ed Rooney · 21 October 2008, 08:55 AM

The Yachtmaster has nothing to do with yacht racing. It's sole purpose in life is to be a dressed up Sub. The YM II is a true countdown timer suitable for yacht racing.It's, dare I say it, a TOOL WATCH!!

Z-Sub · 21 October 2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedi

Well, just to play Devil's Advocate:

the YM could be seen as a dressed up Sub with the use of the noble metal Platinum. Water resistance is also less as the caseback is different.... right?

That's how I see it as well. Same movement internally

21 October 2008, 03:35 AM	#1
jim946 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass. USA Posts: 14	Submariner vs Yachtmaster Beside color configurations, what are the differences between these two models? What makes the Yachtmaster for boating? What is the number dial around the watch for? does it move? Great site, thanks for any help you can offer. Jim

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Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	The Yachtmaster has nothing to do with yacht racing. It's sole purpose in life is to be a dressed up Sub. The YM II is a true countdown timer suitable for yacht racing.It's, dare I say it, a TOOL WATCH!!

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