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vacano · 19 January 2018, 08:58 PM

Hello AP lovers,

I am a fan of the 15202ST despite not having tried one on the wrist, however I am wondering if the more modern alternative 15450 is a better option to purchase. The case proportions of the 15450 are very close to the classic 39mm 15202 but with the added benefits of the 3120 in-house movement, added power reserve and lower price point.

I would like to own an AP Royal Oak at some point so would love to hear your thoughts. I have tried on the 15400ST but the size is too big for me so my options are 15202 or 15450.

Thanks!

LAFLARE · 19 January 2018, 09:08 PM

Just saw and tried on the 15450 a few hours ago and it wears smaller than 37mm to me so I would suggest the 15202

MrWhy · 19 January 2018, 09:09 PM

Hi, I own a 15450ST and love it! My wrist size is 6.75 (picture against 41mm Tudor) and find it perfect for business wear.

The power reserve is a massive plus, especially having a few watches in the collection.

I sold my BLNR to buy this one new from a UK AD (got a bit of a deal) and haven’t looked back.

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Rasmussen_CPH · 19 January 2018, 09:13 PM

I strongly disagree. I have one and would say it wears like other brands size 38/39 mm offerings.

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vacano · 19 January 2018, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAFLARE

Just saw and tried on the 15450 a few hours ago and it wears smaller than 37mm to me so I would suggest the 15202

thanks, maybe i should try one on to see how it works on my wrist

vacano · 19 January 2018, 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=MrWhy;8200906]Hi, I own a 15450ST and love it! My wrist size is 6.75 (picture against 41mm Tudor) and find it perfect for business wear.

The power reserve is a massive plus, especially having a few watches in the collection.

I sold my BLNR to buy this one new from a UK AD (got a bit of a deal) and haven’t looked back.

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Yep see what you mean. Do you think the 15450 fits like a traditional 40mm Rolex?

GB-man · 19 January 2018, 10:19 PM

If your wrist is ~6.5 or less the 15450 is a good option. I would definitely try it on first. If you have any desire whatsoever to get the jumbo just do it. You’ll end up flipping towards it and paying more.

tyler1980 · 19 January 2018, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vacano

Hello AP lovers,

I am a fan of the 15202ST despite not having tried one on the wrist, however I am wondering if the more modern alternative 15450 is a better option to purchase. The case proportions of the 15450 are very close to the classic 39mm 15202 but with the added benefits of the 3120 in-house movement, added power reserve and lower price point.

I would like to own an AP Royal Oak at some point so would love to hear your thoughts. I have tried on the 15400ST but the size is too big for me so my options are 15202 or 15450.

Thanks!

i disagree with that. Its a fine watch, but its proportions (thickness) is the same as the 15400 and it is 4mm smaller across the case. Its smaller and thicker than the 15202, very clearly so.

I tend to think the ideal proportion is the 15202 and then the 15400. The 15400 appears less thick since the case is larger vs the 15450.

AK797 · 20 January 2018, 01:07 AM

I find the 450 actually wears quite small, unlike most APs, as the dial is small and the case is thick and llike the 41mm, but shrunk down, as Tyler said.

tonupbklyn · 20 January 2018, 01:14 AM

i'm a big fan of this 15450...have been coveting it for awhile now...

vacano · 20 January 2018, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

i'm a big fan of this 15450...have been coveting it for awhile now...

wow nice combo

2nastie · 20 January 2018, 05:06 AM

I think it comes down to your own wrist and the dimensions of it. I strongly suggest you try it on like you did for the 15400.

Whether it's 6.5-6.75-7.0", etc. everyone's wrist is different. Having a flatter 6.5" wrist and more "top-level" surface area might actually equal to someone who has a rounder 6.75" wrist. Fit is more suited for the lug to lug comparison and how it sits on the surface of the wrist.

I have 6.5" wrist for example and I can fit a 15400. Haha, depends how your wrist "ovals" I guess...

But based on your comparisons I don't think you'll see too much of a difference between 15450 and 15202. The 15450 is thicker, therefore visually (in comparison with a RO case) it will appear similar size to the 15202 when you have the watch on the same angle on the wrist.

Peterandwatches · 20 January 2018, 05:28 AM

I think the 15450 should check all your boxes, and is a good value proposition, compared to the 15202.

That is has a quick set date, in-house movement, seconds hand, and screw down crown doesn't hurt either.

MrWhy · 20 January 2018, 05:32 AM

[QUOTE=vacano;8200965]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWhy

Hi, I own a 15450ST and love it! My wrist size is 6.75 (picture against 41mm Tudor) and find it perfect for business wear.

The power reserve is a massive plus, especially having a few watches in the collection.

I sold my BLNR to buy this one new from a UK AD (got a bit of a deal) and haven’t looked back.

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Yep see what you mean. Do you think the 15450 fits like a traditional 40mm Rolex?

A little smaller, not exactly a 40mm but close to a 39mm Rolex.

I’m more of a fan of a small watch, rather than one that is to big. The 15400ST was far to big, more a 43/44mm, for me to pull off and I found the glass back was too small for the watch. My budget didn’t allow a 15202 and I want a long power reserve.

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vacano · 20 January 2018, 05:53 AM

Really helpful feedback, thanks all. Agreed that I need to try the 15450 before I make a decision.

soundserious · 20 January 2018, 10:22 AM

Love the 450, been looking for one too.

drhr · 20 January 2018, 02:04 PM

Had the Jumbo, unfortunately wore too large, the 15450 is perfect for my wrist though . . .

GB-man · 20 January 2018, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by drhr

Had the Jumbo, unfortunately wore too large, the 15450 is perfect for my wrist though . . .

Perfect! It fits you like the jumbo fits me. You’re a lucky dog

drhr · 20 January 2018, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

Perfect! It fits you like the jumbo fits me. You’re a lucky dog

Trade wrists with you

. . .

SC11 · 20 January 2018, 05:37 PM

I’m the other extreme and the 15450 looks way to small!

Even the 15202 is borderline and prefer the fit of the 41mm 15400

vacano · 20 January 2018, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drhr

Had the Jumbo, unfortunately wore too large, the 15450 is perfect for my wrist though . . .

Perfect fit -that blue dial looks fantastic

PJ S · 20 January 2018, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC11

I’m the other extreme and the 15450 looks way to small!

Even the 15202 is borderline and prefer the fit of the 41mm 15400

If you wore the 450 and 400 about an inch further up your arm, they be sitting where they should, and it'd be absolutely clear that the former is definitely too small for your wrist shape & size, whereas the latter would be spot on.

SC11 · 20 January 2018, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

If you wore the 450 and 400 about an inch further up your arm, they be sitting where they should, and it'd be absolutely clear that the former is definitely too small for your wrist shape & size, whereas the latter would be spot on.

Appreciate the advice but sitting where they should is a personal thing and for me I have to wear my watches below my wrist bone.

Combination of a protruding wrist bone and above just looks odd on me! Kind of a plus as making any watch look smaller on me wouldn’t help the collection.

MrBenF · 20 January 2018, 10:31 PM

Was in my AD a month ago and tried on both the 400 and 450. The latter was too large and for someone who prefers smaller watches anyway, I felt the 37mm was a good for for my wrist. I haven't tried the 202 but I think that could work.

Given there's no boutique where I live (to compare v. 202), I've asked the AD to order the 450 with blue dial.

AK797 · 21 January 2018, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBenF

Was in my AD a month ago and tried on both the 400 and 450. The latter was too large and for someone who prefers smaller watches anyway, I felt the 37mm was a good for for my wrist. I haven't tried the 202 but I think that could work.

Given there's no boutique where I live (to compare v. 202), I've asked the AD to order the 450 with blue dial.

202 will work for sure on you, but that's a nice colour RO.

drhr · 21 January 2018, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vacano

Perfect fit -that blue dial looks fantastic

Thank you! If I'm honest, will have to admit that I liked the Jumbo's blue a bit more . . .

PJ S · 21 January 2018, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC11

Appreciate the advice but sitting where they should is a personal thing and for me I have to wear my watches below my wrist bone.

Combination of a protruding wrist bone and above just looks odd on me! Kind of a plus as making any watch look smaller on me wouldn’t help the collection.

Fair enough, but one way around the wrist bone issue is to wear the watch a bit loose – it just looks a bit uncomfortable with the crown sitting on the back of your hand, especially if it was flexed back.

V25V · 24 January 2018, 02:48 AM

If the price is not a factor, 15202 for sure. Much more collectible, fantastic size in the original Genta 39mm and the movement.... yum. Wouldn't be a second thought for me if between those two, but I went for the 15300 in blue since I really wanted the quick set date. Keep that in mind.

AK797 · 24 January 2018, 11:57 AM

If you like the 15202 you better buy it soon as looks like the Nautilus is having a 20% price rise and very likely the 202 will follow suit and maybe the others too.

tonupbklyn · 24 January 2018, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

If you like the 15202 you better buy it soon as looks like the Nautilus is having a 20% price rise and very likely the 202 will follow suit and maybe the others too.

this!!

19 January 2018, 08:58 PM	#1
vacano "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Spain Posts: 156	15202 vs 15450 Hello AP lovers, I am a fan of the 15202ST despite not having tried one on the wrist, however I am wondering if the more modern alternative 15450 is a better option to purchase. The case proportions of the 15450 are very close to the classic 39mm 15202 but with the added benefits of the 3120 in-house movement, added power reserve and lower price point. I would like to own an AP Royal Oak at some point so would love to hear your thoughts. I have tried on the 15400ST but the size is too big for me so my options are 15202 or 15450. Thanks!

19 January 2018, 10:19 PM	#7
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	If your wrist is ~6.5 or less the 15450 is a good option. I would definitely try it on first. If you have any desire whatsoever to get the jumbo just do it. You’ll end up flipping towards it and paying more. __________________

20 January 2018, 10:22 AM	#16
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Love the 450, been looking for one too. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

20 January 2018, 02:04 PM	#17
drhr 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Hawaii Posts: 1,225	Had the Jumbo, unfortunately wore too large, the 15450 is perfect for my wrist though . . . Attached Images

20 January 2018, 10:31 PM	#24
MrBenF "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Ben Location: Sydney Posts: 114	15450 for me Was in my AD a month ago and tried on both the 400 and 450. The latter was too large and for someone who prefers smaller watches anyway, I felt the 37mm was a good for for my wrist. I haven't tried the 202 but I think that could work. Given there's no boutique where I live (to compare v. 202), I've asked the AD to order the 450 with blue dial. Attached Images

19 January 2018, 09:08 PM	#2
LAFLARE "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: SF, CA Posts: 833	Just saw and tried on the 15450 a few hours ago and it wears smaller than 37mm to me so I would suggest the 15202

19 January 2018, 09:09 PM	#3
MrWhy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: TJ Location: UK Watch: Changes weekly Posts: 155	Hi, I own a 15450ST and love it! My wrist size is 6.75 (picture against 41mm Tudor) and find it perfect for business wear. The power reserve is a massive plus, especially having a few watches in the collection. I sold my BLNR to buy this one new from a UK AD (got a bit of a deal) and haven’t looked back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 January 2018, 09:13 PM	#4
Rasmussen_CPH "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 8	I strongly disagree. I have one and would say it wears like other brands size 38/39 mm offerings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 January 2018, 10:06 PM	#6
vacano "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Spain Posts: 156	[QUOTE=MrWhy;8200906]Hi, I own a 15450ST and love it! My wrist size is 6.75 (picture against 41mm Tudor) and find it perfect for business wear. The power reserve is a massive plus, especially having a few watches in the collection. I sold my BLNR to buy this one new from a UK AD (got a bit of a deal) and haven’t looked back. __________________________________________________ ___________________________ Yep see what you mean. Do you think the 15450 fits like a traditional 40mm Rolex?

20 January 2018, 01:07 AM	#9
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I find the 450 actually wears quite small, unlike most APs, as the dial is small and the case is thick and llike the 41mm, but shrunk down, as Tyler said.

20 January 2018, 01:14 AM	#10
tonupbklyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bklyn Posts: 1,471	i'm a big fan of this 15450...have been coveting it for awhile now...

20 January 2018, 05:06 AM	#12
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	I think it comes down to your own wrist and the dimensions of it. I strongly suggest you try it on like you did for the 15400. Whether it's 6.5-6.75-7.0", etc. everyone's wrist is different. Having a flatter 6.5" wrist and more "top-level" surface area might actually equal to someone who has a rounder 6.75" wrist. Fit is more suited for the lug to lug comparison and how it sits on the surface of the wrist. I have 6.5" wrist for example and I can fit a 15400. Haha, depends how your wrist "ovals" I guess... But based on your comparisons I don't think you'll see too much of a difference between 15450 and 15202. The 15450 is thicker, therefore visually (in comparison with a RO case) it will appear similar size to the 15202 when you have the watch on the same angle on the wrist.

20 January 2018, 05:28 AM	#13
Peterandwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WA Watch: 5167/15400/Sub/JLC Posts: 1,023	I think the 15450 should check all your boxes, and is a good value proposition, compared to the 15202. That is has a quick set date, in-house movement, seconds hand, and screw down crown doesn't hurt either.

20 January 2018, 05:53 AM	#15
vacano "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Spain Posts: 156	Really helpful feedback, thanks all. Agreed that I need to try the 15450 before I make a decision.

20 January 2018, 05:37 PM	#20
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	I’m the other extreme and the 15450 looks way to small! Even the 15202 is borderline and prefer the fit of the 41mm 15400

24 January 2018, 02:48 AM	#28
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,406	If the price is not a factor, 15202 for sure. Much more collectible, fantastic size in the original Genta 39mm and the movement.... yum. Wouldn't be a second thought for me if between those two, but I went for the 15300 in blue since I really wanted the quick set date. Keep that in mind.

24 January 2018, 11:57 AM	#29
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	If you like the 15202 you better buy it soon as looks like the Nautilus is having a 20% price rise and very likely the 202 will follow suit and maybe the others too.

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