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[Rondineli]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

The reason for the Patriots success is Bill Belichick. FULL STOP.

Belichick could absolutely win without Tom Brady and has done so when the situation came about.. Not sure how Brady would do in a different system....we probably will never know...

Belichick's teams are the best coached by a mile. They have the best specific gameplans to beat their opposition, commit very few penalties, are the best team EVER in making adjustments and absolutely DO NOT quit...EVER. They are never out of a game..

But I will say this as a warning to the "gloating" Pats fans. Enjoy this time. Relish it. Because when Brady and Belichick are gone, there will be really dark times. Garroppolo would have kept BB around long enough to continue then hand it off to an heir apparent. Now, jimmy G is gone...there is no young QB on the horizon....and the staff is heading out to other jobs....

so, how did the Patriots do the year that Tom Brady missed due to injury?

Sorry to disagree with you. The players win games, not the coaches.
Now, the focus and intensity that BB brings is undeniable. But, the success is due to Brady. Note that yesterday, for example, there was really no star receiver, and he managed to score against the number 1 defense in the league.

Of course, the Patriots defense had some outstanding plays in the fourth quarter, but without an effective quarterback that can convert under pressure, good defenses are of no use, nothing - just look at San Francisco now with Jimmy G.

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

The reason for the Patriots success is Bill Belichick. FULL STOP.

Belichick could absolutely win without Tom Brady and has done so when the situation came about.. Not sure how Brady would do in a different system....we probably will never know...

Belichick's teams are the best coached by a mile. They have the best specific gameplans to beat their opposition, commit very few penalties, are the best team EVER in making adjustments and absolutely DO NOT quit...EVER. They are never out of a game..

But I will say this as a warning to the "gloating" Pats fans. Enjoy this time. Relish it. Because when Brady and Belichick are gone, there will be really dark times. Garroppolo would have kept BB around long enough to continue then hand it off to an heir apparent. Now, jimmy G is gone...there is no young QB on the horizon....and the staff is heading out to other jobs....

All good points, and most likely will come to pass, the two things I'll say is jury is still out on Jimmy G, he looks great now but...

And they've got time to develop another potentially... As tall an order as that seems, don't count it out yet! This would still be the Harvard of QB Universities for the next few years if they can draft another kid with raw skills.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Rondineli

so, how did the Patriots do the year that Tom Brady missed due to injury?

Sorry to disagree with you. The players win games, not the coaches.
Now, the focus and intensity that BB brings is undeniable. But, the success is due to Brady. Note that yesterday, for example, there was really no star receiver, and he managed to score against the number 1 defense in the league.

Of course, the Patriots defense had some outstanding plays in the fourth quarter, but without an effective quarterback that can convert under pressure, good defenses are of no use, nothing - just look at San Francisco now with Jimmy G.

He managed to score because the coaches called plays that exploited defensive weaknesses. The Pats coaches do that better than anybody.

No one argues the value of a good QB. But no one player is an organization. You don’t have to look past the Colts and Andrew Luck to know that a talented QB doesn’t fix the ills of a poorly coached team.

[mannyv11]

Originally Posted by Rondineli

so, how did the Patriots do the year that Tom Brady missed due to injury?

Sorry to disagree with you. The players win games, not the coaches.
Now, the focus and intensity that BB brings is undeniable. But, the success is due to Brady. Note that yesterday, for example, there was really no star receiver, and he managed to score against the number 1 defense in the league.

Of course, the Patriots defense had some outstanding plays in the fourth quarter, but without an effective quarterback that can convert under pressure, good defenses are of no use, nothing - just look at San Francisco now with Jimmy G.

In 2008 Matt Cassel went 11-5, granted the Patriots did not make the playoffs, but they were the first team with that type of record to miss the playoffs since the 12 team expansion playoff set up to miss the playoffs with that record.

Matt Cassel then went on to play for other teams (currently for the titans) and to put it bluntly sucked, this is a prime example to show that New England coaching is by far the best in the league.

Also last year when Tom was suspended for the first 4 games pats went 3-1. I believe Tom is probably one of the greatest if not the greatest QB of all time, but without the coaching staff around him the entire Patriots organization would not be in the position they are in right now.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by Rondineli

so, how did the Patriots do the year that Tom Brady missed due to injury?

Sorry to disagree with you. The players win games, not the coaches.
Now, the focus and intensity that BB brings is undeniable. But, the success is due to Brady. Note that yesterday, for example, there was really no star receiver, and he managed to score against the number 1 defense in the league.

Of course, the Patriots defense had some outstanding plays in the fourth quarter, but without an effective quarterback that can convert under pressure, good defenses are of no use, nothing - just look at San Francisco now with Jimmy G.

Umm..BB made Matt Cassel a hero. He's been pretty much $%^& since.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Rondineli

so, how did the Patriots do the year that Tom Brady missed due to injury?

Sorry to disagree with you. The players win games, not the coaches.
Now, the focus and intensity that BB brings is undeniable. But, the success is due to Brady. Note that yesterday, for example, there was really no star receiver, and he managed to score against the number 1 defense in the league.

Of course, the Patriots defense had some outstanding plays in the fourth quarter, but without an effective quarterback that can convert under pressure, good defenses are of no use, nothing - just look at San Francisco now with Jimmy G.

How did they do? They went 11-5 They missed the playoffs but still had an exceptional record. If you think 11-5 is a collapse you are very deeply mistaken.

And I am not even a Patriots fan, but have to respect a successful organization

[Rondineli]

I agree with most of what has been stated above.

But, what I am saying is that the MAIN reason for the Patriots success is Tom Brady.

So, I guess I agree with Skip Bayless on this.

The guy was playing yesterday with 12 stitches...

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[austinp]

Opinions are not facts. FULL STOP.

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[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by austinp

Opinions are not facts. FULL STOP.

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