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Old 30 January 2018, 03:31 PM   #31
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How did you come up with this assertion? Claiming it is fake is when it is clearly genuine doesn't help anyone here.
As above, I am guessing he (incorrectly) thinks the hand-stack is wrong.
I say "guessing" because he doesn't seem to ever want to discuss (or learn apparently) why he thinks something is off, when brought to task.
He just pulls out the "we don't discuss it" line, or the "you are entitled to your opinion" retort...
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Old 30 January 2018, 04:27 PM   #32
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Bezel looks aftermarket.
It might look like it is to you, but it isn't!!!
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Old 30 January 2018, 04:31 PM   #33
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Thanks for all your reply’s guys it’s much appreciated.
I’m a little bit worried now with Gladiator thinking it may be a fake so will probably leave it.
Why don't you do some research and compare the watch to known examples and you'll clearly see that Gladiator is wrong.

If the watch you posted is fake - that means the one I posted is fake too and I assure you it is not. It's identical to the one you posted.

Here are some more genuine GMTs:
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Old 30 January 2018, 07:01 PM   #34
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On a GMT, the hand stack order can tell you if the movement is not correct for the particular reference.

If it's wrong, then it's a dead giveaway. If it's correct, that is still no guarantee that the watch is genuine (there are plenty of fakes GMTs out there with the correct hand stack). It's simply one piece of the puzzle in determining authenticity.



In this case, I am guessing he (Gladiator) mistakenly thinks the hand stack is not correct, possibly due to the sub-optimal photo. However, anyone with enough experience can see that there is no such issue with the hand stack on the OP watch pictured. That brings up another key factor, which is being able to "read" a photograph, and understand the concepts/fundamentals of lighting, shadows/reflections, compression/artifacts, etc.





Many thanks. An informed post. That’s what I was looking for on this thread.


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Old 30 January 2018, 10:18 PM   #35
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As above, I am guessing he (incorrectly) thinks the hand-stack is wrong.
I say "guessing" because he doesn't seem to ever want to discuss (or learn apparently) why he thinks something is off, when brought to task.
He just pulls out the "we don't discuss it" line, or the "you are entitled to your opinion" retort...
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The watch posted by the OP is identical to the one I posted - right down to the bezel insert.

I'm well aware of the "super fakes" and this isn't one - nothing from the photos indicates it as such.

I read many of your posts here with incorrect suppositions. Please be more diligent, posting incorrect info serves no useful purpose - especially if you want to be taken seriously.
IIRC, Gladiator has some sort of business where he teaches people how to spot a fake luxury watch. He has a vested interest in not admitting he isn't an expert.
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Old 31 January 2018, 01:05 AM   #36
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IIRC, Gladiator has some sort of business where he teaches people how to spot a fake luxury watch. He has a vested interest in not admitting he isn't an expert.
He has "students" on the other web page that he frequents now showing up thinking they are experts and its getting annoying because they are littering the watch out section over there with questionable posts.
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Old 31 January 2018, 12:54 PM   #37
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Learned a lot reading this thread.
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Old 2 February 2018, 12:52 AM   #38
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Learned a lot reading this thread.
No kidding...
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Old 2 February 2018, 08:12 AM   #39
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It might look like it is to you, but it isn't!!!
I'll admit, I was wrong here. I'd never seen a "serif" font Pepsi insert like this. I did more research and apparently they do exist.
Everything else on the watch looks good to me.
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