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Jeffreyc87 · 24 February 2018, 04:30 AM

There has been a lot of back and forth about polishing gold vs platinum.

Platinum takes more effort to polish, for the simple reason that it does not wear as other precious metals do; consequently, it doesn’t follow the same metallurgical rules.

Platinum has a “liquid” surface. Other metals lose mass over time – prongs wear thin, shanks get thinner, decorations such as Florentine or engravings wear down. All of these deterioration take a lot longer with platinum. The metal even scratches differently.

When you scratch platinum, you are actually just moving the metal aside, whereas other precious metals lose surface area.

locutus49 · 24 February 2018, 04:31 AM

This is what I understand. Molecules merely rearrange.

schoolboy · 24 February 2018, 04:35 AM

I've read about this.

Pretty amazing

Max16013 · 24 February 2018, 04:41 AM

Didn’t know this, thanks for sharing

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Etschell · 24 February 2018, 04:45 AM

so what you are saying is we should all buy a platona?

brandrea · 24 February 2018, 04:46 AM

That seems to be the line of thinking yes.

I think when platinum gets all scratched up it looks beautiful and takes on a very cool patina. I don't own a platinum watch, but I do have my wedding band, which shows a lovely patina now

elcompa · 24 February 2018, 04:48 AM

And that's what makes platinum so damn cool.

tbonesteak · 24 February 2018, 04:57 AM

Platinum DD40s for everyone

AK797 · 24 February 2018, 04:59 AM

Voodoo Platinum.

Rolex addict · 24 February 2018, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

so what you are saying is we should all buy a platona?

Absolutely!!!!

schoolboy · 24 February 2018, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbonesteak

Platinum DD40s for everyone

Yup!

With the "ice blue, diagonal motif" dial

airpeace · 24 February 2018, 05:01 AM

that's why it costs so much more too

Mystro · 24 February 2018, 05:02 AM

I am gonna let you make this argument to my wife directly.

Etschell · 24 February 2018, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolex addict

Absolutely!!!!

for now you will have to post a picture online so i can dream.

tyler1980 · 24 February 2018, 05:05 AM

so what you are basically saying is if everyone buys Pt, then the no polish army will stop their never polish campaign? Sweet.

Abdullah71601 · 24 February 2018, 05:13 AM

Nickel and palladium are the same. The whole family are gummy metals.

SearChart · 24 February 2018, 05:21 AM

Yet when we polish a platinum watch there is still a metallic residue on our polishing wheels, just like with any other watch.

SearChart · 24 February 2018, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffreyc87

There has been a lot of back and forth about polishing gold vs platinum.

Platinum takes more effort to polish, for the simple reason that it does not wear as other precious metals do; consequently, it doesn’t follow the same metallurgical rules.

Platinum has a “liquid” surface. Other metals lose mass over time – prongs wear thin, shanks get thinner, decorations such as Florentine or engravings wear down. All of these deterioration take a lot longer with platinum. The metal even scratches differently.

When you scratch platinum, you are actually just moving the metal aside, whereas other precious metals lose surface area.

Oh and next time state the source of your post, you copied something from a website.

https://www.ganoksin.com/article/suc...hing-platinum/

droptopman · 24 February 2018, 05:56 AM

If you keep reading the article, it goes on to say "It’s also good practice to frequently change emery papers and dress buffing wheels, as well as to recharge polishing buffs after each dressing. When polishing, you are actually removing metal, and some of that metal will adhere to the felts, buffs, and brushes. "

Be careful polishing any metal watches. I am not part of the "never polish army" but regardless of metal, when polishing some metal is removed.

SearChart · 24 February 2018, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by droptopman

If you keep reading the article, it says this "It’s also good practice to frequently change emery papers and dress buffing wheels, as well as to recharge polishing buffs after each dressing. When polishing, you are actually removing metal, and some of that metal will adhere to the felts, buffs, and brushes. "

Exactly.

It's high density and it being oddly malleable makes it hard to remove metal and get the desired finishing. But metal is always removed during polishing.
If I need to polish one I'll properly clean my polishing wheels and show before and after pictures, I bet no one will ever question this again after that...

swils8610 · 24 February 2018, 06:11 AM

I’ve got a platinum wedding band. I’ve never had it shined up.

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breitlings · 24 February 2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Nickel and palladium are the same. The whole family are gummy metals.

Nickel isnt a pgm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum_group

Also msi makes a pretty nice gaming laptop.

The Joker · 24 February 2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

Yet when we polish a platinum watch there is still a metallic residue on our polishing wheels, just like with any other watch.

Fairy dust

tyler1980 · 24 February 2018, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

Yet when we polish a platinum watch there is still a metallic residue on our polishing wheels, just like with any other watch.

do you get to keep it?

That adds up

SearChart · 24 February 2018, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

do you get to keep it?

That adds up

Not worth the hassle, try getting a micron or two of gold or platinum from a lot of dust and polishing paste, not gonna happen.

sensui · 24 February 2018, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

Exactly.

It's high density and it being oddly malleable makes it hard to remove metal and get the desired finishing. But metal is always removed during polishing.
If I need to polish one I'll properly clean my polishing wheels and show before and after pictures, I bet no one will ever question this again after that...

Every watchmaker I've spoken to seems to agree on this yet this internet myth seems to perpetuate lol......what's true is it's extremely difficult to polish platinum and it takes much more labor to do it. You will lose metal when you polish the hell out of it....just takes much more effort and far longer than say stainless/gold.

Abdullah71601 · 24 February 2018, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by breitlings

Nickel isnt a pgm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum_group
:

Alchemy aside, Pt group is Ni, Pd, and Pt. Their chemistry and properties are the same. Read the table vertically.

Chewbacca · 24 February 2018, 07:49 AM

good thread.

tyler1980 · 24 February 2018, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breitlings

Nickel isnt a pgm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum_group

Also msi makes a pretty nice gaming laptop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Alchemy aside, Pt group is Ni, Pd, and Pt. Their chemistry and properties are the same. Read the table vertically.

fighting over science ... love it

Abdullah71601 · 24 February 2018, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

fighting over science... love it

I’ve never tried to machine Ru, but have nickel and Pt. They machine the same. Very gummy metal. Doesn’t want to chip off the tools.

24 February 2018, 04:30 AM	#1
Jeffreyc87 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Earth Posts: 369	Platinum Polishing - No loss of metal There has been a lot of back and forth about polishing gold vs platinum. Platinum takes more effort to polish, for the simple reason that it does not wear as other precious metals do; consequently, it doesn’t follow the same metallurgical rules. Platinum has a “liquid” surface. Other metals lose mass over time – prongs wear thin, shanks get thinner, decorations such as Florentine or engravings wear down. All of these deterioration take a lot longer with platinum. The metal even scratches differently. When you scratch platinum, you are actually just moving the metal aside, whereas other precious metals lose surface area.

24 February 2018, 04:45 AM	#5
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	so what you are saying is we should all buy a platona? __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

24 February 2018, 04:48 AM	#7
elcompa "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Carolina Watch: DD 118206 Posts: 1,858	And that's what makes platinum so damn cool. __________________ 118206 DD, 116710 BLNR, 116200 TT DJ

24 February 2018, 05:02 AM	#13
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,515	I am gonna let you make this argument to my wife directly. __________________

24 February 2018, 05:56 AM	#19
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	If you keep reading the article, it goes on to say "It’s also good practice to frequently change emery papers and dress buffing wheels, as well as to recharge polishing buffs after each dressing. When polishing, you are actually removing metal, and some of that metal will adhere to the felts, buffs, and brushes. " Be careful polishing any metal watches. I am not part of the "never polish army" but regardless of metal, when polishing some metal is removed. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

24 February 2018, 04:31 AM	#2
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	This is what I understand. Molecules merely rearrange.

24 February 2018, 04:35 AM	#3
schoolboy Banned Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Jesus Location: Texas Watch: 116234 Posts: 8,721	I've read about this. Pretty amazing

24 February 2018, 04:41 AM	#4
Max16013 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Here Watch: DJ 16013 Posts: 247	Didn’t know this, thanks for sharing Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 February 2018, 04:46 AM	#6
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,129	That seems to be the line of thinking yes. I think when platinum gets all scratched up it looks beautiful and takes on a very cool patina. I don't own a platinum watch, but I do have my wedding band, which shows a lovely patina now

24 February 2018, 04:57 AM	#8
tbonesteak "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Watch: me go broke! Posts: 1,657	Platinum DD40s for everyone

24 February 2018, 04:59 AM	#9
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Voodoo Platinum.

24 February 2018, 05:01 AM	#12
airpeace Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phila Posts: 393	that's why it costs so much more too

24 February 2018, 05:05 AM	#15
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	so what you are basically saying is if everyone buys Pt, then the no polish army will stop their never polish campaign? Sweet.

24 February 2018, 05:13 AM	#16
Abdullah71601 Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Calumet Harbor Watch: ing da Bears Posts: 13,568	Nickel and palladium are the same. The whole family are gummy metals.

24 February 2018, 06:11 AM	#21
swils8610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,211	I’ve got a platinum wedding band. I’ve never had it shined up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

24 February 2018, 07:49 AM	#28
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	good thread.

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