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Old 6 April 2018, 05:10 PM   #91
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What’s wrong with it? It’s a hand that points to a scale on the bezel and that extends to... that very scale on the bezel, I somehow fail to see the issue here...
In a nutshell: Rashid thinks the hand looks bad extending beyond the chapter ring. He believes the hand would function just as effectively if it terminated just inside the chapter ring, while also improving the appearance of the dial layout. He therefore thinks the reason for extending past the ring is not one of function, but must be something else, even if is merely inattentiveness by the designers. He's asking for our thoughts on what that reason might be, as well as our general thoughts about the design choice.
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Old 6 April 2018, 05:35 PM   #92
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That's obvious, everyone knows it points to the bezel. Not a revelation, it's the equivalent of saying the 24hr/GMT hand is the red one.

Can't the GMT hand reference the bezel from inside the chapter ring. Are you guys saying if it were 1mm sorter(if that) inside the chapter ring then you wouldn't know where it's pointing or how to use it.....highly unlikely.
Nonetheless, stylistically I think that was the idea. Whether you happen to like it or not.

Do you also question the bicolor bezel because it's "highly unlikely" if it were all black we couldn't figure out which hours were daytime?

These are just design choices that makes sense conceptually and look good.

What important purpose is served by stopping at the chapter ring?

Personally I like that the twelve hour hand stops at the 12-position markers, the minute and second hands stop at the 60-position markers, and the GMT hand stops at the 24-position markers. It's clear and consistent.
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Old 6 April 2018, 05:38 PM   #93
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This one? Doesn't look like it. The GMT hand is within the chapter ring.
As for the Tudor, I guess one can either live with it or not.
That GMT hand looks ok but do you think the hour hand is too long?
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Old 6 April 2018, 06:27 PM   #94
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The ultimate judgment regarding any item, is whether one would actually purchase said item.
I think the NEW Tudor GMT is a parody, and that the square blobs are an overused and slightly clumsy, design motif, in this instance.
The proportions of the winding 'stem' is, for me, downright inelegant.
You were requesting personal opinions regarding the design.
I take your point.
Perhaps, on reflection, I should have said, "wouldn't buy one, simple".
Could've said that but I appreciate your perspective in this post. It just goes to show how some things can be unappealing to some while those same things are invisible to others. The things you have discussed are all things I noticed but have accepted as "unique" Tudor design qualities. Something that makes Tudor different, I guess lie this GMT hand. Might be good or bad depending on preference. The snowflake hand, so much can be said about it....but one things is for sure, if you see it, you know it's a Tudor.

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For the love of L. Ron, who could ever get past the goofy hour hand, let alone the GMT.


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In a nutshell: Rashid thinks the hand looks bad extending beyond the chapter ring. He believes the hand would function just as effectively if it terminated just inside the chapter ring, while also improving the appearance of the dial layout. He therefore thinks the reason for extending past the ring is not one of function, but must be something else, even if is merely inattentiveness by the designers. He's asking for our thoughts on what that reason might be, as well as our general thoughts about the design choice.
Yeap, summed up perfectly. In my head I imagined myself as a defendant, while my lawyer cites the issues of my trial. Thanks for that, lol.

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That GMT hand looks ok but do you think the hour hand is too long?
Now that you mention it, it sort of does, and perhaps the shaft leading up to the snowflake is too thin. But now I'm just digging in weeds if I'm honest.
I would say the biggest issue with our observations of watches is looking at macro images and using loops. If photos were all perspective based wrists shots, these little details wouldn't be as noticed.
But as wis, noticing and discussing the details is what makes this enjoyable or frustrating. I'm hoping the GMT hand isn't an issue irl, as I think the watch is a quirky beauty.
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Old 6 April 2018, 06:36 PM   #95
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I'm fine with it. The only thing that bothers me is the dive watch thickness on a GMT watch.
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Old 6 April 2018, 07:28 PM   #96
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I'm fine with it. The only thing that bothers me is the dive watch thickness on a GMT watch.
It IS 200m waterproof. I agree it's a bit of a kick in the teeth it being released along with the 58 which is a diver also 200m waterproof. A 16610 is 300m being just as thin so the thickness is useless bulk in all honesty. Same goes for the SubC ..whilst I'm at it.
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Old 7 April 2018, 01:42 AM   #97
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I wish they remove the square on the second hand and add just a simple arrow for the red GMT hand.
There is already the unmistakable trademark snowflake hour hand, so why add so many square?
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Old 7 April 2018, 01:49 AM   #98
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I'm think the second hand is the reason

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Old 7 April 2018, 02:06 AM   #99
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Yeah...I'm not crazy about it either. But, it wouldn't influence me to not buy the watch if I was so inclined.

Which I'm pretty sure I am.
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Old 7 April 2018, 02:10 AM   #100
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I'm fine with it. The only thing that bothers me is the dive watch thickness on a GMT watch.
it is a dive watch....
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Old 7 April 2018, 01:54 PM   #101
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See when the hand moves inside the minute track (left image) it obscures the date and hour markers:

I agree Tudor should not have placed 5 gmt hands in one single watch

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Old 7 April 2018, 02:15 PM   #102
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Tudors GMT hand, to me, is the weak link. It’s odd, ill sized, out of place and seems like a bad after thought. It’s the only thing about the watch that I don’t like and I don’t like it enough to pay triple for the BLRO
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Old 8 April 2018, 07:37 PM   #103
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Tudors GMT hand, to me, is the weak link. It’s odd, ill sized, out of place and seems like a bad after thought. It’s the only thing about the watch that I don’t like and I don’t like it enough to pay triple for the BLRO
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I like the Tudor GMT hand, the snowflake shape and the fact it is longer (and very readable at a glance, remember form follows function).

The world would be a boring place if we all like the same things. Enjoy your BLNR, it is superb watch :)

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Old 8 April 2018, 09:44 PM   #104
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thanks for sharing your opinion. I like the tudor gmt hand, the snowflake shape and the fact it is longer (and very readable at a glance, remember form follows function).

The world would be a boring place if we all like the same things. Enjoy your blnr, it is superb watch :)

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