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Old 31 May 2018, 01:11 PM   #1
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SS Blue Faced Submariner

I am ready to buy my first Rolex. I really liked the look of the DSSD D-Blue 116660, and I found one locally. Once I tried it on, I knew it was too big for me. :-(

I showed my wife a 2-tone blue/gold 116613, but she did not like the added gold.

So, now I am looking for a submariner with blue face and SS. It looks like that was discontinued with the 16610, but I am not sure.

Is there anything I should be looking for (or avoiding) when looking for a 16610?

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Old 31 May 2018, 01:18 PM   #2
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Other than the TT or yellow gold the only submariner with a blue dial is the 116619 in white gold.
The 16610 will all have black dials.
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Old 31 May 2018, 01:19 PM   #3
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I am ready to buy my first Rolex. I really liked the look of the DSSD D-Blue 116660, and I found one locally. Once I tried it on, I knew it was too big for me. :-(

I showed my wife a 2-tone blue/gold 116613, but she did not like the added gold.

So, now I am looking for a submariner with blue face and SS. It looks like that was discontinued with the 16610, but I am not sure.

Is there anything I should be looking for (or avoiding) when looking for a 16610?

Thanks,

Jeff
Sorry, there is no such thing as a " blue face and SS Submariner ".
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Old 31 May 2018, 01:29 PM   #4
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I think you could find a SS Tudor sub with a blue dial though!


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Old 31 May 2018, 01:30 PM   #5
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Sorry, there is no such thing as a " blue face and SS Submariner ".
I had suspected that. The main reason for my post was to confirm that. If I see one in that configuration, is it due to an aftermarket face or just an outright fake? I see one on popular sales site with a description "Rolex Submariner 16610 Oyster 40mm S/Steel Watch-Diamond Blue Dial-Blue Ceramic"
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Old 31 May 2018, 01:34 PM   #6
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Other than the TT or yellow gold the only submariner with a blue dial is the 116619 in white gold.
The 16610 will all have black dials.
I personally like the TT, but the wife doesn't. Maybe I have to tell her the only way to get it is with white gold.

Me: Sorry hunny, I have to spend another $10K. :-)
Her: I hope the white gold is soft enough for you to use it as a pillow while you live in the dog house.
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Old 31 May 2018, 01:38 PM   #7
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If I see one in that configuration, is it due to an aftermarket face or just an outright fake?"
Yes, there are people who customized their stainless steel Submariner with a blue dial (sunburst or aftermarket) but once you modify, it's hard to tell which parts are still legitimate.

Maybe when you show her this image, she is okay with spending another 10k :D

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Old 31 May 2018, 01:51 PM   #8
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Yes, there are people who customized their stainless steel Submariner with a blue dial (sunburst or aftermarket) but once you modify, it's hard to tell which parts are still legitimate.

Maybe when you show her this image, she is okay with spending another 10k :D
dob1, how soft is the white gold? I would be concerned that white gold would scratch much easier. Yours looks great. Is there anything special you need to do with it? I am used to SS or Ti watches.
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Old 31 May 2018, 02:08 PM   #9
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dob1, how soft is the white gold? I would be concerned that white gold would scratch much easier. Yours looks great. Is there anything special you need to do with it? I am used to SS or Ti watches.
While it's technically softer, I don't see that many more dings and scratches compared to my SS models but then again I also tend to be careful wearing my watches and I don't do drywall work or changing tires wearing them.

As for care, it's exactly like the SS models since the gold is solid and not plated so there is nothing that could rub off. Feel free to use a soft toothbrush and some soapy water for the bracelet, vase, bezel, etc. You can even use Cape Cod cloth for mild polishing or to fix scratches that drive you nuts.

Speaking of scratches that drive you nuts, once thing to consider, which you might also know from your TT models, is that the WG Submariner only comes with polished center links. Those are scratch magnets, very much like the SS model.
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Old 31 May 2018, 02:13 PM   #10
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thanks, dob1. There is a dealer near me that has a 116619LB that I will call to check out.

Hopefully, I will be posting a picture of my wrist on this forum soon.
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Old 1 June 2018, 08:44 AM   #11
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Me: Sorry hunny, I have to spend another $10K. :-)
Her: I hope the white gold is soft enough for you to use it as a pillow while you live in the dog house.
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Old 1 June 2018, 08:51 AM   #12
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Old 1 June 2018, 08:55 AM   #13
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I personally like the TT, but the wife doesn't. Maybe I have to tell her the only way to get it is with white gold.

Me: Sorry hunny, I have to spend another $10K. :-)
Her: I hope the white gold is soft enough for you to use it as a pillow while you live in the dog house.
The white gold Submariner is more than another $10k, unless you're buying used.

https://www.rolex.com/watches/submar...19lb-0001.html

Try $36,850.00 if you buy it new from an AD.

Used you're probably looking at around $25-28k and this is very dependent on condition.

If you like the TT then get the TT. I love mine. Thankfully, my wife also loves my TT Sub.
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See Post 12, Pelagos is a great solution if you like blue diver in the Rolex family.
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Old 1 June 2018, 09:00 AM   #15
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The white gold Submariner is more than another $10k, unless you're buying used.

https://www.rolex.com/watches/submar...19lb-0001.html

Try $36,850.00 if you buy it new from an AD.

Used you're probably looking at around $25-28k.
Yeah, I know it's more than $10k, but I had budgeted around $14k, so on the used market I might be close.

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Pelagos is titanium but could be OPs solution.
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The TT blue is awesome. So is the ss models. You can’t go wrong.
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Have you considered the blue dial 40mm Yachtmaster?






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Old 1 June 2018, 12:18 PM   #19
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If you like the Bluesy, get it. You're wife will get over it.
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Old 1 June 2018, 12:48 PM   #20
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bluesy is a great option. the white gold sub is beautiful though. can get it new for about 26-28 on the forums. call up davidsw or takuya theyll hook you up
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Old 1 June 2018, 01:03 PM   #21
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Buy the TT you want to buy for yourself. Tell your wife she's free to buy you one that she likes.
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SS Blue Faced Submariner

I like my WG sub and you can get one mid 20s here from TS. I did. There are lots of threads on “is white too good soft for daily wear?” Have a look. My experience is that WG holds up just fine. The polished center links show scratches, but so do the polished links on a TT sub. I’ve had several TT subs. Be aware how heavy the WG sub is. I like the weight. Some don’t like the weight.

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Yeah, I know it's more than $10k, but I had budgeted around $14k, so on the used market I might be close.

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Buy the 6-digit TT blue dial sub, sell the TT bracelet to a TT GMT owner who wants a glidelock bracelet, and source a SS glidelock bracelet.

This is the cheapest blue dial Sub you will get. And the gold accents on the case add a little bling.
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I had a Pelagos and absolutely loved it. Great option as some have said,however, I traded it in along with a SD43 and got the WG Sub. I don’t regret it one bit. It’s my favorite watch at the moment. It is, as some have mentioned, very heavy. I wasn’t expecting it so I didn’t like the weight at first. But I’m used to it now and it feels great.

I see your in beautiful Yorba Linda. Try Patrick from OC watch guy. He’s in Huntington Beach. I bought mine from him and I see he has another one. Patrick is a great guy and you can trust him 100%. Good luck! I hope you’re able to get one

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White gold Sub and wooden ladders for the win!
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I love the 116613LB, but it sounds like you want your wife to be happy... Happy Wife, Happy Life!

The 116619BLSO is a beautiful, yet costly option! You can try it on at your AD, and discover how much they are willing to discount. Then explore the trusted sellers, and see if it is worth exploring that route.

There is also the 116622 Yacht-Master with blue dial. A beautiful SS option...

So many possibilities... no wrong answers...


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unless you're buying white gold the answer is no.

and please do NOT think about building a franken-watch. it just won't work.
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Old 1 June 2018, 11:57 PM   #28
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unless you're buying white gold the answer is no.

and please do NOT think about building a franken-watch. it just won't work.
No Franken watch for me. Even if I swapped bracelets, I would keep the original.

I am glad I asked my question here before dropping several thousand on a blue faced SS!



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Buy the TT you want to buy for yourself. Tell your wife she's free to buy you one that she likes.
Lol, you don't know my wife. I can't tell her that, or I may go broke!

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Interesting option. I will look into it.

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