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JPMickB83 · 5 July 2018, 01:30 AM

I’m hoping I’m just the unlucky soul, but my BBN in-house is currently being serviced after only two months of ownership. The rotor became increasingly noisy and if you tapped on the watch you could feel the guts wobble and vibrate. Something definitely came loose through the course of normal wear. The AD said I’m a rare case (they’ve only had two other warranties on the hundreds they’ve sold, none for the same issue), but I’m a little disappointed.

I’m very tempted to trade the watch in for the BB58 when it comes out, but I already have a 16610 (in addition to two Tudor 76100’s from 1984, and a BLNR, so a B.B. GMT is out). What would you guys do?

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MCO1 · 5 July 2018, 01:47 AM

I historically have never been a huge Tudor fan. They are starting to appeal to me as Rolex goes more and more upmarket. I kind of feel like they are the closest thing one can get to old school Rolex without going vintage. If i ever pull the trigger on one I will personally be very careful to acquire one with an in-house movement.

If anything it is just perceived value because there are or will be less of them.

douglasf13 · 5 July 2018, 02:36 AM

The Tudor ETA is heavily modified compared to a usual top level ETA 2824. It has a modified balance cock, a Triovis regulator, and the Incabloc has been switched with KIF shock protection.

There's a pretty fantastic thread on another forum showing that the new Tudor movements may be the most stable movements out there in all positions. They're really fantastic and technically better than the ETA stuff.

Ultimately, though, movements don't really matter, and just about any solid movement these days can be regulated to within +2/-2. After regulation, my Tudor ETA is the most accurate watch for daily wear that I've owned, and that includes several Rolex watches and an Omega Co-Axial.

People like the old BB ETA because of the thinness and rose logo, although I have a feeling the new BB58 is going to start cutting into the desirability of the ETA BB.

Spoonage · 5 July 2018, 02:45 AM

I prefer the looks of the Rose logo and less text. Doesn't hurt that they produced them in lower quantities (specifically speaking of the BBN).

My ETA BBN is the only Rolex / Tudor I bought new that did not have any QC issues. Plus it keeps better time than my Green Tag Rolexes (+/- 2sec)...

Likestheshiny · 5 July 2018, 03:01 AM

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You really dont notice the 'thicker' case at all, thats nonsense.

2mm is proportionately quite a bit. If you don't notice a watch being one-sixth thicker, you're not trying very hard.

Nikrnic · 5 July 2018, 03:14 AM

I love the Black Bays, I also have a SubC but never compared the two, I feel the BB stands on its own and although I do rotate them I know I'd be perfectly happy if it was my only sub.
I purchased the BBred in house but quickly got tired of its bulkyness and the forced yellow patina as well as the faux riveted bracelet. Flipped it and found an NOS BBblue eta. I have to say this one checks all the boxes for me now and along with the Ranger I've got my Tudor fix covered.

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air_king · 5 July 2018, 06:13 AM

I own an in house BBB. I really like the 70hr power reserve and silicon hair spring. The dial on the eta is better but I went with the technology update of the in house version. Really not a whole lot of difference at the end of the day, as for “investment “ on a $3400 watch not an issue imho.

dubins930 · 5 July 2018, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fard

I would buy a Rolex instead of a Tudor...

The reason I hate the majority of Rolex wearers....

Anywho, either way its a great watch. Knowing how bullet proof that ETA is is nice, but knowing your getting an in-house movement when your drop 3k is also nice. For my money, I'm getting the in house.

tudorbaja27 · 5 July 2018, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fard

I would buy a Rolex instead of a Tudor...

Though no one asked...

Swiss Mad! · 5 July 2018, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dubins930

The reason I hate the majority of Rolex wearers....

Strange thing to say on a Rolex forum...?

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rolexinfl · 5 July 2018, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

2mm is proportionately quite a bit. If you don't notice a watch being one-sixth thicker, you're not trying very hard.

Has nothing to do with trying.

Dimensionally the case itself is 2mm thicker, but it doesn't wear 2mm thicker. If you put both the ETA and the in-house on your wrist side by side you will see they sit at the same height

douglasf13 · 5 July 2018, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexinfl

Has nothing to do with trying.

Dimensionally the case itself is 2mm thicker, but it doesn't wear 2mm thicker. If you put both the ETA and the in-house on your wrist side by side you will see they sit at the same height

It's the caseback that makes a difference, and it's one of my favorite things about Tudor ETAs. The old Tudor Subs/Princes are more comfortable than Rolex Subs/DateJusts, because the ETA movement allows for a flatter caseback vs. the bulging Rolex caseback.

Old Expat Beast · 5 July 2018, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by douglasf13

It's the caseback that makes a difference, and it's one of my favorite things about Tudor ETAs.. The old Tudor Subs/Princes are more comfortable than Rolex Subs/DateJusts, because the ETA movement allows for a flatter caseback vs. the bulging Rolex caseback.

I agree.

5 July 2018, 01:30 AM	#31
JPMickB83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: DFW Posts: 302	I’m hoping I’m just the unlucky soul, but my BBN in-house is currently being serviced after only two months of ownership. The rotor became increasingly noisy and if you tapped on the watch you could feel the guts wobble and vibrate. Something definitely came loose through the course of normal wear. The AD said I’m a rare case (they’ve only had two other warranties on the hundreds they’ve sold, none for the same issue), but I’m a little disappointed. I’m very tempted to trade the watch in for the BB58 when it comes out, but I already have a 16610 (in addition to two Tudor 76100’s from 1984, and a BLNR, so a B.B. GMT is out). What would you guys do? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 July 2018, 01:47 AM	#32
MCO1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Missouri USA Watch: Daytona C white Posts: 2,248	I historically have never been a huge Tudor fan. They are starting to appeal to me as Rolex goes more and more upmarket. I kind of feel like they are the closest thing one can get to old school Rolex without going vintage. If i ever pull the trigger on one I will personally be very careful to acquire one with an in-house movement. If anything it is just perceived value because there are or will be less of them.

5 July 2018, 02:36 AM	#33
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,622	The Tudor ETA is heavily modified compared to a usual top level ETA 2824. It has a modified balance cock, a Triovis regulator, and the Incabloc has been switched with KIF shock protection. There's a pretty fantastic thread on another forum showing that the new Tudor movements may be the most stable movements out there in all positions. They're really fantastic and technically better than the ETA stuff. Ultimately, though, movements don't really matter, and just about any solid movement these days can be regulated to within +2/-2. After regulation, my Tudor ETA is the most accurate watch for daily wear that I've owned, and that includes several Rolex watches and an Omega Co-Axial. People like the old BB ETA because of the thinness and rose logo, although I have a feeling the new BB58 is going to start cutting into the desirability of the ETA BB.

5 July 2018, 02:45 AM	#34
Spoonage 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: California Posts: 3,133	I prefer the looks of the Rose logo and less text. Doesn't hurt that they produced them in lower quantities (specifically speaking of the BBN). My ETA BBN is the only Rolex / Tudor I bought new that did not have any QC issues. Plus it keeps better time than my Green Tag Rolexes (+/- 2sec)...

5 July 2018, 03:14 AM	#36
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	I love the Black Bays, I also have a SubC but never compared the two, I feel the BB stands on its own and although I do rotate them I know I'd be perfectly happy if it was my only sub. I purchased the BBred in house but quickly got tired of its bulkyness and the forced yellow patina as well as the faux riveted bracelet. Flipped it and found an NOS BBblue eta. I have to say this one checks all the boxes for me now and along with the Ranger I've got my Tudor fix covered. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

5 July 2018, 06:13 AM	#37
air_king "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: US Posts: 383	I own an in house BBB. I really like the 70hr power reserve and silicon hair spring. The dial on the eta is better but I went with the technology update of the in house version. Really not a whole lot of difference at the end of the day, as for “investment “ on a $3400 watch not an issue imho.

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