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Speed · 31 August 2018, 01:03 AM

So I tried on this watch in Las Vegas last weekend. Man, I sure like the fit. Wish I had taken a wristie!

Retail price is $5,900. My TS could get it for me at a good discount...

However, I just can’t get over the Tag specter. A lot to pay for a Tag / non-vintage Heuer...but in house movement and great design.

I am not a McQueen fanboy so that’s not a huge consideration. I do not have any square watches so this would add some variety.

Thoughts? Any first-hand experience with this model, Tag servicing etc?

Photo credit to HODINKEE.

wesdaniel · 31 August 2018, 05:04 AM

I love the looks of these watches, but, for some reason, I thought that this wasn't an in-house movement? I had it in my head that it was a base Sellita movement? Not that there's anything wrong with a Sellita movement - I just didn't think it was in-house.

Speed · 31 August 2018, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wesdaniel

I love the looks of these watches, but, for some reason, I thought that this wasn't an in-house movement? I had it in my head that it was a base Sellita movement? Not that there's anything wrong with a Sellita movement - I just didn't think it was in-house.

Ah...you’re right. Based on the stellita. My bad.

I guess that makes the price feel steeper. But new non- Tag branded watches of the “Heritage” moniker seem to be prices in this range.

wesdaniel · 31 August 2018, 06:26 AM

Yeah, it seems to be the price. I've really been wanting to pick up the Monaco Gulf Anniversary edition because I love the look and love the color, but I'm not willing to pay the prices that I've seen for them - I don't personally see the value proposition. But, they're attractive as hell and I keep going back and looking at them.

GB-man · 31 August 2018, 10:09 AM

I really like Monacos! Cool as chit and price is fair with discount imho.

dmhines · 31 August 2018, 10:27 AM

I prefer Bell & Ross for a square watch. Same movement as a Monaco.

droptopman · 31 August 2018, 10:34 AM

I like these as well. Dig the old moniker. Cool sporty Chrono. Definitely want to get at discount though.

JR16 · 31 August 2018, 11:51 AM

I think you either love or hate the square
Monaco design (I’m in the latter camp, no offense). I also think these “heritage” tags are way overpriced for what they are, especially given the movement. Just my 2cents

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mps354 · 31 August 2018, 12:07 PM

I’ve always been drawn to the Monaco, but never pulled the trigger for the reasons you mention. Great looking watch though. I like their newish monza too

Speed · 31 August 2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JR16

I think you either love or hate the square
Monaco design (I’m in the latter camp, no offense). I also think these “heritage” tags are way overpriced for what they are, especially given the movement. Just my 2cents

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No offense.

I like the watch, but I’ll just wait for one to pop up used...they must tank on the secondary market.

subtona · 31 August 2018, 12:38 PM

Cool watch. The model has been around for many years and comes from a cool historical place.

Starwalker · 31 August 2018, 07:30 PM

i prefer the monza case design.

1William · 31 August 2018, 08:55 PM

Tag does a good job with the design and I have owned the Monza and the Autavia. For me they get lost in the shuffle of a 10 plus watch collection. I bought mine with a significant discount and still took a loss on a flip with both.

slcbbrown · 31 August 2018, 10:19 PM

If you really like a watch, the price rarely matters, again. If you can't figure out what works for you, or you just like flipping watches, expect to take a pounding, periodically.

That's a great looking version of the Monaco.

Speed · 1 September 2018, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by slcbbrown

If you really like a watch, the price rarely matters, again. If you can't figure out what works for you, or you just like flipping watches, expect to take a pounding, periodically.

That's a great looking version of the Monaco.

I hate selling / flipping. I’ve regretted nearly every sale I’ve ever made. Not because if any loss, but I miss the watches.

That said, I am having trouble with the notion of paying even $4k post discount.

After thinking some more, no more than $3 k or so minty used might be better.

SG56 · 1 September 2018, 09:58 AM

I know Monaco has a history and following, but I've always liked Monza better. A lot less common too. And a little less square lol

jbsmith · 2 September 2018, 01:55 AM

Love my only tag. Great history...first auto chrono, first waterproof square case, rich racing history, worn by Steve McQueen, adds great diversity to any collection, clear caseback, etc. I like it better than my Daytona, which I flipped.

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RolexWombat · 2 September 2018, 11:31 AM

Monaco is a great watch, and this is a pretty good version of it too (though I personally prefer the versions with the horizontal baguettes). I have a CAW211B (ETA base) and I also had for a while a CAW211P (Sellita SW300 base), and while both of them keep very good time (well within COSC) the SW300 was actually the most accurate of the two...

As for the price, well you should be able to get a clean used CAW211P for around $3500 from a reputable and place (guess how I know :)), but that silver dial is much more uncommon.

Jay (Eire) · 3 September 2018, 06:43 AM

If you like it, buy it. I’d put some elbow grease into finding the absolute cheapest price.

I’ve spent the last two months constantly taking a non WIS / budding enthusiast out of buying the Gulf edition at anything more than $3k. It doesn’t matter if that price doesn’t exist right now, it will at some point.

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bdex75 · 3 September 2018, 06:56 AM

If the price is right then I like them. But only the blue dial or gulf. Not that silver dial. Not sure why, it is just so blah.

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RolexWombat · 12 September 2018, 08:43 AM

Same exact model on Hodinkee at exactly the same price:

https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/t...t=874731503631

BTW the 'Gulf' and 'blue jeans' are good but not the most special/expensive models of 'new' Monaco (those would be the limited edition models from 2010: CAW211A and also the CAW211B)

Rebel · 12 September 2018, 08:50 AM

It's not for me; but, I see it's place in the "classic" lineup.

wesdaniel · 13 September 2018, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Eire)

If you like it, buy it. I’d put some elbow grease into finding the absolute cheapest price.

I’ve spent the last two months constantly taking a non WIS / budding enthusiast out of buying the Gulf edition at anything more than $3k. It doesn’t matter if that price doesn’t exist right now, it will at some point.

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Good to hear you say that. The price in my head for that specific watch was $3K, but I didn't know if I was being realistic. That seems about right for the watch. Hopefully I can find one.

AK797 · 13 September 2018, 05:36 AM

That dial is really nice, reminds me of the Patek 5235. With Monacos I find the crystal really reflective and thus cheap looking, maybe a lighter dial will help.

31 August 2018, 01:03 AM	#1
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Modern Heuer Monaco Musings... So I tried on this watch in Las Vegas last weekend. Man, I sure like the fit. Wish I had taken a wristie! Retail price is $5,900. My TS could get it for me at a good discount... However, I just can’t get over the Tag specter. A lot to pay for a Tag / non-vintage Heuer...but in house movement and great design. I am not a McQueen fanboy so that’s not a huge consideration. I do not have any square watches so this would add some variety. Thoughts? Any first-hand experience with this model, Tag servicing etc? Photo credit to HODINKEE.

31 August 2018, 10:09 AM	#5
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	I really like Monacos! Cool as chit and price is fair with discount imho. __________________

31 August 2018, 10:27 AM	#6
dmhines "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Florida Watch: Hulk Posts: 476	I prefer Bell & Ross for a square watch. Same movement as a Monaco. __________________ . Hulk / RootBeer / Explorer

31 August 2018, 10:34 AM	#7
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	I like these as well. Dig the old moniker. Cool sporty Chrono. Definitely want to get at discount though. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

31 August 2018, 12:38 PM	#11
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,596	Cool watch. The model has been around for many years and comes from a cool historical place. __________________

31 August 2018, 05:04 AM	#2
wesdaniel 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Wes Location: California Watch: Varies Posts: 1,347	I love the looks of these watches, but, for some reason, I thought that this wasn't an in-house movement? I had it in my head that it was a base Sellita movement? Not that there's anything wrong with a Sellita movement - I just didn't think it was in-house.

31 August 2018, 06:26 AM	#4
wesdaniel 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Wes Location: California Watch: Varies Posts: 1,347	Yeah, it seems to be the price. I've really been wanting to pick up the Monaco Gulf Anniversary edition because I love the look and love the color, but I'm not willing to pay the prices that I've seen for them - I don't personally see the value proposition. But, they're attractive as hell and I keep going back and looking at them.

31 August 2018, 11:51 AM	#8
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,253	I think you either love or hate the square Monaco design (I’m in the latter camp, no offense). I also think these “heritage” tags are way overpriced for what they are, especially given the movement. Just my 2cents Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

31 August 2018, 12:07 PM	#9
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 9,097	I’ve always been drawn to the Monaco, but never pulled the trigger for the reasons you mention. Great looking watch though. I like their newish monza too

31 August 2018, 07:30 PM	#12
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,261	i prefer the monza case design. __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

31 August 2018, 08:55 PM	#13
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,764	Tag does a good job with the design and I have owned the Monza and the Autavia. For me they get lost in the shuffle of a 10 plus watch collection. I bought mine with a significant discount and still took a loss on a flip with both.

31 August 2018, 10:19 PM	#14
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	If you really like a watch, the price rarely matters, again. If you can't figure out what works for you, or you just like flipping watches, expect to take a pounding, periodically. That's a great looking version of the Monaco.

1 September 2018, 09:58 AM	#16
SG56 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Tampa Watch: SD4K Posts: 2,674	I know Monaco has a history and following, but I've always liked Monza better. A lot less common too. And a little less square lol __________________ Sea-Dweller 116600 - the manly one GMT II 16710 - the manly one Daytona 116500 - the manly-womanly one Yacht-Master 268622 - the chick version Speedy Mitsukoshi <3 Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAF141C.BA0824 - the chick version Thank you logan5tx!!! Have to link it. Too long for the signature. https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...0&postcount=14

2 September 2018, 01:55 AM	#17
jbsmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Blake Location: US Watch: Daytonas Posts: 1,869	Love my only tag. Great history...first auto chrono, first waterproof square case, rich racing history, worn by Steve McQueen, adds great diversity to any collection, clear caseback, etc. I like it better than my Daytona, which I flipped. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

2 September 2018, 11:31 AM	#18
RolexWombat "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: US Watch: Depends on the day Posts: 71	Monaco is a great watch, and this is a pretty good version of it too (though I personally prefer the versions with the horizontal baguettes). I have a CAW211B (ETA base) and I also had for a while a CAW211P (Sellita SW300 base), and while both of them keep very good time (well within COSC) the SW300 was actually the most accurate of the two... As for the price, well you should be able to get a clean used CAW211P for around $3500 from a reputable and place (guess how I know :)), but that silver dial is much more uncommon.

3 September 2018, 06:43 AM	#19
Jay (Eire) 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: @jb.watching Location: NYC Posts: 1,491	If you like it, buy it. I’d put some elbow grease into finding the absolute cheapest price. I’ve spent the last two months constantly taking a non WIS / budding enthusiast out of buying the Gulf edition at anything more than $3k. It doesn’t matter if that price doesn’t exist right now, it will at some point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 September 2018, 06:56 AM	#20
bdex75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Brandon Location: Indianapolis Watch: my money vanish Posts: 8,506	If the price is right then I like them. But only the blue dial or gulf. Not that silver dial. Not sure why, it is just so blah. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

12 September 2018, 08:43 AM	#21
RolexWombat "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: US Watch: Depends on the day Posts: 71	Same exact model on Hodinkee at exactly the same price: https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/t...t=874731503631 BTW the 'Gulf' and 'blue jeans' are good but not the most special/expensive models of 'new' Monaco (those would be the limited edition models from 2010: CAW211A and also the CAW211B)

12 September 2018, 08:50 AM	#22
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,253	It's not for me; but, I see it's place in the "classic" lineup. __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

13 September 2018, 05:36 AM	#24
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	That dial is really nice, reminds me of the Patek 5235. With Monacos I find the crystal really reflective and thus cheap looking, maybe a lighter dial will help.

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