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affalterbach · 27 September 2018, 11:44 PM

There is speculation that the 116719BLRO has been retired (Both the black dial and new Basel 2018 blue dial). The intent of this post is not to publicly debate whether this is true or not but to gather community input on what this would mean to the future desirability of the 116719. The black dial version was only produced for 4 years. The blue dial was introduced at Basel just 6 months ago and there are probably only a handful of blue dial 116719’s in existence. If true, would it be fair to assume that the blue dial version may be the most limited Rolex produced in the modern era of Rolex? Why would Rolex introduce a watch at Basel and discontinue it 6 months later? I’m interested to get this forums feedback.

GBD · 27 September 2018, 11:49 PM

When you say "there has been speculation" what are you referring to?

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Devildog · 27 September 2018, 11:49 PM

Possibly because we'll shortly be seeing a 126719 BLRO with the new movement that is used in the SS BLRO and both CHNRs

To all intents and purposes its the same watch, but technically a discontinuation as there is a change in reference number.

Devildog · 27 September 2018, 11:51 PM

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When you say "there has been speculation" what are you referring to?

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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=629528

Edward leef · 27 September 2018, 11:56 PM

i read it as well on a dutch Rolex forum.
they posted a link of www . luxify . de

Chiboy · 28 September 2018, 12:02 AM

So let me ask this:

If the WG BLRO with the blue dial gets replaced by one with the new, improved movement (which obviously it should), will collectors clamor to buy (and pay up for) the short run of blue dialed WG models with the older, less good movement? I don't know how far this "collectibility" craze goes.

123Blueface · 28 September 2018, 12:45 AM

Well, for speculators, it has an msrp of $36,750.
Started out at D SW for over $38,000.
Can now be had, brand new, unworn, for $35,675, first I have seen below MSRP.

tyler1980 · 28 September 2018, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GBD

When you say "there has been speculation" what are you referring to?

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the price impact of such speculation if it is indeed true. Speculation for speculators.

only took a minute to monetize the rumor.

Jazzie · 28 September 2018, 01:00 AM

Came across this too

R!$ · 28 September 2018, 01:35 AM

Not everything discontinued goes up in value but perhaps in the short run

Certainly the BLRO would be a collectible

904VT · 28 September 2018, 02:14 AM

I think it was pretty obvious that the 3186 based GMT Masters in WG blue dial weren't meant to be around forever. I don't think they'll be anymore valuable than prior, at least not in the short-term. More than likely we'll see the black dial back in WG again and the blue was to differentiate/make the 3186 based more collectable in the meanwhile to move them. Margins are highest on PM, so I'm sure they'll want to eventually get the 3285 into as many PM as possible.

27 September 2018, 11:44 PM	#1
affalterbach "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: USA Watch: Seiko SUN065P1 Posts: 359	M116719 Retired??? There is speculation that the 116719BLRO has been retired (Both the black dial and new Basel 2018 blue dial). The intent of this post is not to publicly debate whether this is true or not but to gather community input on what this would mean to the future desirability of the 116719. The black dial version was only produced for 4 years. The blue dial was introduced at Basel just 6 months ago and there are probably only a handful of blue dial 116719’s in existence. If true, would it be fair to assume that the blue dial version may be the most limited Rolex produced in the modern era of Rolex? Why would Rolex introduce a watch at Basel and discontinue it 6 months later? I’m interested to get this forums feedback.

27 September 2018, 11:49 PM	#3
Devildog "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Scott Location: UK Watch: ^^^ for now Posts: 5,797	Possibly because we'll shortly be seeing a 126719 BLRO with the new movement that is used in the SS BLRO and both CHNRs To all intents and purposes its the same watch, but technically a discontinuation as there is a change in reference number. __________________ Past: 6239 (yes, I know...), 16610, 16600, 116515, 116613LN, 126600, 126711 CHNR Present: 16600, 116509, Cartier Santos Green.

28 September 2018, 12:02 AM	#6
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,572	So let me ask this: If the WG BLRO with the blue dial gets replaced by one with the new, improved movement (which obviously it should), will collectors clamor to buy (and pay up for) the short run of blue dialed WG models with the older, less good movement? I don't know how far this "collectibility" craze goes. __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

27 September 2018, 11:49 PM	#2
GBD "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 442	When you say "there has been speculation" what are you referring to? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

27 September 2018, 11:56 PM	#5
Edward leef "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Netherlands Posts: 12	i read it as well on a dutch Rolex forum. they posted a link of www . luxify . de

28 September 2018, 12:45 AM	#7
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 5,316	Well, for speculators, it has an msrp of $36,750. Started out at D SW for over $38,000. Can now be had, brand new, unworn, for $35,675, first I have seen below MSRP.

28 September 2018, 01:00 AM	#9
Jazzie Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: United states Posts: 109	Came across this too

28 September 2018, 01:35 AM	#10
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	Not everything discontinued goes up in value but perhaps in the short run Certainly the BLRO would be a collectible

28 September 2018, 02:14 AM	#11
904VT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: All Rolex Posts: 7,024	I think it was pretty obvious that the 3186 based GMT Masters in WG blue dial weren't meant to be around forever. I don't think they'll be anymore valuable than prior, at least not in the short-term. More than likely we'll see the black dial back in WG again and the blue was to differentiate/make the 3186 based more collectable in the meanwhile to move them. Margins are highest on PM, so I'm sure they'll want to eventually get the 3285 into as many PM as possible.

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