A month’s salary on your wrist (Article)

[Kyle3130]

This article accurately sums up exactly why I made the decision to purchase my Sub a little over 5 years ago. In my line of work (military) it is essential to have a reliable, tested, and proven workhorse like the Sub with me at all times. For the last 5 years and through 2 of my 4 deployments, it hasn’t skipped a beat. Since June 1st it has averaged + 0.72 second per day. Suffice it to say, I LOVE MY SUB! By the way, it cost me a little more than a month’s salary at the time of purchase.

https://soflete.com/blogs/knowledge/...-on-your-wrist

[JUSTIFIED]

Great article and thanks for your service!

[brandrea]

Thanks for sharing this Kyle.

[accountank2000]

I do get why someone would trust a Sub for their adventures in the jungle, up a mountain, or in a warzone, rather than a multifunctional smartwatch which needs to find a USB outlet every day.

Still, the article is a bit OTT when it tries to hammer the point home with comments like "When initiating a time fuse on a demolition charge, I want to know my watch won’t die while I wait for the explosion."

Of course you want something more dependable than an 'iPhone for the wrist', but I'm not convinced you need a $10k watch filled with cogs and rotors that's a few seconds off each day, when you could just get a Gshock for a couple of hundred dollars and know that the accuracy is tightened up to a few seconds a year instead of a few seconds a day and the battery will last a couple of years.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by accountank2000

I do get why someone would trust a Sub for their adventures in the jungle, up a mountain, or in a warzone, rather than a multifunctional smartwatch which needs to find a USB outlet every day.

Still, the article is a bit OTT when it tries to hammer the point home with comments like "When initiating a time fuse on a demolition charge, I want to know my watch won’t die while I wait for the explosion."

Of course you want something more dependable than an 'iPhone for the wrist', but I'm not convinced you need a $10k watch filled with cogs and rotors that's a few seconds off each day, when you could just get a Gshock for a couple of hundred dollars and know that the accuracy is tightened up to a few seconds a year instead of a few seconds a day and the battery will last a couple of years.

The author clearly states that what you quoted is “an extreme example” Wouldn’t you want a watch that can cover all your bases every time you need it to rather than just most of them most of the time? For me that piece of mind in the field renders price irrelevant.

[Pauln]

Thanks. Good read.

[Phrank]

Great article, only part that raised my eyebrow was, " It still passes muster as a timepiece for a t shirt and daisy dukes, or as a handsome dress watch."

Daisy Dukes? Huh?

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by Phrank

Great article, only part that raised my eyebrow was, " It still passes muster as a timepiece for a t shirt and daisy dukes, or as a handsome dress watch."

Daisy Dukes? Huh?

Men and women both look good wearing it. I believe that was a nod to both sexes.

[carlhaluss]

Thanks for sharing your experience. Man, I wish I could get one for a month's salary. At least, the last place I worked before retiring. That would have cost me more than 3 months' salary!
Anyway, glad the watch is such a success for you.
Cheers,
Carl

[Geaux Tigers]

Great article! Thank you for you service!

[Phrank]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

Men and women both look good wearing it. I believe that was a nod to both sexes.

Doh! Of course, and you are correct, thanks...

[exador]

I had to laugh at this:

Certain modified Seiko watch movements that feature a hacking (stop when you pull the stem) movement are nice, but Miyota and ETA movements are the gold standard in autos

Although I guess from a repair point of view, any watchmaker worldwide should be able to fix an ETA

[JacksonStone]

Great article, but I wonder if the author underestimates the toughness of some G-Shocks. I wouldn't know, since I don't work in the situations he describes, but this video puts several models to the test in some extreme conditions.

[Steerpike999]

What a great article, thank you for linking to it

[HNIC]

Great read, thanks for sharing.


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[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Great article, but I wonder if the author underestimates the toughness of some G-Shocks. I wouldn't know, since I don't work in the situations he describes, but this video puts several models to the test in some extreme conditions.

I appreciate your perspective and you are probably right about the underestimation of G-Shocks but I believe what the author is trying to convey is the reliability of a movement vs a battery.

[MJK737]

Right on! My GMT Master 16750 has been around the world twice including a one year deployment to AFG “touring” the countryside. It never skipped a beat. I picked up a Sub a few years ago and rotate the two. I love them both.

P.S. Years ago I had a G-Shock’s battery die on me in the field. No bueno, I picked up the GMT shortly thereafter...

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

I appreciate your perspective and you are probably right about the underestimation of G-Shocks but I believe what the author is trying to convey is the reliability of a movement vs a battery.

Originally Posted by MJK737

P.S. Years ago I had a G-Shock’s battery die on me in the field. No bueno, I picked up the GMT shortly thereafter...

Well yeah, if the battery dies, it's game over. Battery changes on a G-Shock are pretty quick and easy, though, so if one were really concerned about that happening, a prefatory change prior to deployment would likely prevent the problem. Most watch batteries have a minimum life of two years, and one of my G-Shocks uses a cell with a projected life of up to five years.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by MJK737

Right on! My GMT Master 16750 has been around the world twice including a one year deployment to AFG “touring” the countryside. It never skipped a beat. I picked up a Sub a few years ago and rotate the two. I love them both.

P.S. Years ago I had a G-Shock’s battery die on me in the field. No bueno, I picked up the GMT shortly thereafter...

Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!

[idontlike_bandwagons]

If it’s essential in your kind of work to have a reliable proven workhouse on your wrist, then a G-Shock would do pretty much a better job tbh.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by idontlike_bandwagons

If it’s essential in your kind of work to have a reliable proven workhouse on your wrist, then a G-Shock would do pretty much a better job tbh.

Hey, you just contradicted your name!

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

Hey troll, you just contradicted your name!

Uh...wouldn't the bandwagon be agreeing with (nearly) everyone else in here? I'm not sure why it's trolling for him to express a contradictory opinion.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Uh...wouldn't the bandwagon be agreeing with (nearly) everyone else in here? I'm not sure why it's trolling for him to express a contradictory opinion.

Edited, not trying to stir the pot or make fun, just pointing out how his name and his stance in this thread are very contradictory.

[Kyle3130]

G-Shocks are great beater watches that are the ultimate in “bang for your buck factor” The author and I personally wouldn’t want a battery powered watch in the field and a Sub can stay on your wrist coming from the field to a date night/dressier occasion 100% better than a G-Shock.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

...just pointing out how his name and his stance in this thread are very contradictory.

But they aren't. "Jumping on the bandwagon" means to go along with popular opinion precisely because it is popular. His name literally says he doesn't like bandwagons. Popular opinion in this thread and on this forum is that Rolexes - and automatic/mechanical watches - kick ass. He's disagreeing with that, at least in terms of the endurance of Rolexes in combat situations. In that sense, he is not jumping on the bandwagon, and therefore isn't contradicting his name.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

G-Shocks are great beater watches that are the ultimate in “bang for your buck factor” The author and I personally wouldn’t want a battery powered watch in the field and a Sub can stay on your wrist coming from the field to a date night/dressier occasion 100% better than a G-Shock.

Do you really agree with this passage from the article?

"I’ve shattered pretty much every commercially available digital wrist watch at some point in my life. Although often touted for their toughness, empirical observation says that they simply aren’t built to last. Conversely, I am on my seventh year with my Rolex Submariner..."

I'm really trying (not) to imagine how a SubC's bezel insert and crystal would look after some of the impact tests in that G-Shock video. I would also be interested in video of in-the-field situations that destroyed a G-Shock but which a Sub survived undamaged.

I'll agree with you on the aesthetics, though. G-Shocks are great, but they're pretty ugly M-F'ers.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

But they aren't. "Jumping on the bandwagon" means to go along with popular opinion precisely because it is popular. His name literally says he doesn't like bandwagons. Popular opinion in this thread and on this forum are that Rolexes - and automatic/mechanical watches - kick ass. He's disagreeing with that, at least in terms of the endurance of Rolexes in combat situations. In that sense, he is not jumping on the bandwagon, and therefore isn't contradicting his name.

You must be a lawyer. Okay, I don’t want my own thread locked, I’ve had a couple beers after a long day at work, and my Sub is telling me it’s time for bed so I bid you goodnight.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

You must be a lawyer. Okay, I don’t want my own thread locked, I’ve had a couple beers after a long day at work, and my Sub is telling me it’s time for bed so I bid you goodnight.

I do have a law degree, but it was my English degree kicking in there.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I do have a law degree, but it was my English degree kicking in there.

Ok, congrats. I don’t have a degree per say but I do have a very particular set of skills that keep this country and it’s people free to say what they wish on the internet so I would appreciate a little slack if you would be so inclined. All I wish to convey to this community is that I agree with the author’s perspective on why mechanical wristwatches are more effective than digital ones in our line of work.

Thank you.

[Doc Savage]

Originally Posted by Phrank

Great article, only part that raised my eyebrow was, " It still passes muster as a timepiece for a t shirt and daisy dukes, or as a handsome dress watch."

Daisy Dukes? Huh?

Dress watch?