Kidney stones... a new level of pain

[csfischer20]

Worst pain i ever experienced. First the pain... and then the uncontrollable puking. I don't wish it on anyone. I stopped drinking soda totally and no more stones.

[swils8610]

I know opioids are a hot topic in the US lately as far as abuse...but they were the only thing that would DULL the pain a bit, not eliminate it. Dilaudid in the ER is a godsend when the pain is so horrible. I had my gallbladder removed and another abdominal surgery done and only used Tylenol for the pain.


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[joeychitwood]

I treated hundreds of kidney stone patients in the ER. Passing a stone is unofficially considered the gold standard for pain. (Though I imagine passing a stone during childbirth could beat it.) I could diagnose a patient with kidney stones from across the parking lot due to the contortions caused by the pain.

I once recall an NFL lineman lying on the floor in an ER exam room in a fetal position crying like a newborn. One it had passed, he said nothing in his career had come close to that pain.

[swils8610]

Lol. Funny you say that. The first stone I ever had was at 3am. Woke up and thought I’d been stabbed. Called my wife...she was my GF at the time to come get me. I couldn’t wait any longer and drove myself to the ER. It was close by. I half walked crawled across the parking lot into the ER and the doctor happened to be standing nearby. He looked at me and said “kidney stone” and took me right back. Skipped all the intake crap and stuff. He just asked me if I was allergic to anything which I’m not and pooped an IV in my arm and gave me an injection of something. Instant relief. I started to ask how long before the stuff would kick in...he just smiled. I couldn’t thank him enough!! All he said was don’t try to get up...no prob doc...I couldn’t even pick my head up!


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[2ltdjorn]

Drink 6 PBR... analgesia and hydration to flush them out

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by 2ltdjorn

Drink 6 PBR... analgesia and hydration to flush them out

Hi what is PBR?

[2ltdjorn]

PBR is Pabst blue ribbon beer.

No literature on it, but old Medicine man voodoo!

Hydrate and Analgesia.

Flush that baby out.

My dad cut out alcohol 25 years ago. Had a small < 5 mm stone. My mom booked him up and it facilitated the transition well.


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[GradyPhilpott]

My dad had to have one surgically removed and had others, including the one he had when he was on his deathbed that was too large to do anything about given his condition.

My sister has had probably a dozen of them.

I have never had one and I pray to God I never do.

[toxicavenger]

I was in Iraq sleeping in a tent in the middle of the summer, when at 2am a kidney stone decided to show up. The shitter has almost 150 ft away. Longest walk I had in all my life. Then I had to walk to the TMC about .75 miles away. Freaking brutal. I am hurting now thinking about it.

[KOOLNDEADLY]

The most pain I have ever experienced- I would not wish it on anyone


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[The_Canad]

I have an MRI tomorrow morning to see if they can zap mine Otherwise its surgery. It’s 1cmx1cm

[swils8610]

Good luck! Hopefully it can be zapped.


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[The_Canad]

Originally Posted by swils8610

Good luck! Hopefully it can be zapped.


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Oh god I hope so too.

[Blah114aa]

Originally Posted by The_Canad

Oh god I hope so too.

can I ask.. is the "zap" to which you refer lithrotripsy.. they normally use general anesthesia for that. hope it went well.

[The_Canad]

Originally Posted by Blah114aa

can I ask.. is the "zap" to which you refer lithrotripsy.. they normally use general anesthesia for that. hope it went well.

I have a follow up to see if they can zap. If not it’ll be up the dick and no one wants that. Will update after Apr 17. Good ol Canadian health care.

[Blah114aa]

Originally Posted by The_Canad

I have a follow up to see if they can zap. If not it’ll be up the dick and no one wants that. Will update after Apr 17. Good ol Canadian health care.

I wish you the best. I love the band rush and have been to Toronto many times. (Yes, Canada is a huge country, I’m well aware). Canadians are so polite and kind , to me. I wish you he best.

[Rags]

I don’t wish kidney stones on my worst enemy. Working in a hospital I’ve seen first hand what patients endure.

[swils8610]

Zapped referring to Lithotripsy. They use a light sedation. It’s painless.


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[Blah114aa]

Originally Posted by swils8610

Zapped referring to Lithotripsy. They use a light sedation. It’s painless.


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Oddly, where I reside, they use full anesthesia.no exemptions. I was fully out during it. I’m unsure why. I asked beforehand and the doctor says it’s standard to be “out fully....” which I didn’t like.

[Dana1]

Lucky you man. Bet you have a story to tell

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[brandrea]

Ever since reading this thread, I’ve been drinking water like a drunken sailor

[Blansky]

Timely thread.

Got hit with a ball of fire on Wednesday. Amazing how 2 Advil every 5 hours changes your life from HELL to OK.

Did the DR thing on Friday and CT scan and luckily I only have a 4mm (I know, what a wuss) which is now located an inch from the bladder which the DR thinks will pass in a couple of days.

If not he offered a red hot poker up there to retrieve it. Now on Flomax, Torodol and Tylenol which seems to work but after 7 hours all HELL breaks loose again until you take some more.

After having this, you definitely get a "no running with scissors" mentality about drinking enough water, even though I drink about 80 fl oz a day. My understanding is also that you want to make sure you're keeping your urine alkaline instead of acidic, which is where you make sure your potassium citrate intake levels are adequate. (lemon water, avocado etc)

There are test strips available at drug stores you pee on to show where your PH is, for some people it may be a way to gauge your acidity and to check maybe once a week or so just for peace of mind. It will also let you know if you're pregnant. (sorry just kidding).

Good luck to everyone suffering from this nasty interloper in your life.

[Blah114aa]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Timely thread.

Got hit with a ball of fire on Wednesday. Amazing how 2 Advil every 5 hours changes your life from HELL to OK.

Did the DR thing on Friday and CT scan and luckily I only have a 4mm (I know, what a wuss) which is now located an inch from the bladder which the DR thinks will pass in a couple of days.

If not he offered a red hot poker up there to retrieve it. Now on Flomax, Torodol and Tylenol which seems to work but after 7 hours all HELL breaks loose again until you take some more.

After having this, you definitely get a "no running with scissors" mentality about drinking enough water, even though I drink about 80 fl oz a day. My understanding is also that you want to make sure you're keeping your urine alkaline instead of acidic, which is where you make sure your potassium citrate intake levels are adequate. (lemon water, avocado etc)

There are test strips available at drug stores you pee on to show where your PH is, for some people it may be a way to gauge your acidity and to check maybe once a week or so just for peace of mind. It will also let you know if you're pregnant. (sorry just kidding).

Good luck to everyone suffering from this nasty interloper in your life.

As others have said, a stone’s size doesn’t matter. As others have said.

The SHAPE matters most. A dr told me any size stone can cause excruciating pain. He’s seen 1 mm stones get stuck in ureter due to being “prong shaped....”

I wish you well. I’m still having sporadic dull pain in my kidney weeks after lithotripsy... the bad thing is you MUST DRINK WATER. at least 15 cups daily if you can. Try to pass it. It’s all yo can do. Advil makes the kidney swelling decrease.

Check out this video for laugh. Foxworthy nails it..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SANOaHmE-G8

[swils8610]

4mm isn’t tiny! The good news is it doesn’t have far to go to be out out! I can tell you first hand you do NOT want the doctor to go in and retrieve it! Pound down the water!


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[Blansky]

Originally Posted by swils8610

4mm isn’t tiny! The good news is it doesn’t have far to go to be out out! I can tell you first hand you do NOT want the doctor to go in and retrieve it! Pound down the water!


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Yeah, thanks. I've had the scope up in the bladder before and it sucks big time. Going even deeper would be worse than Thanksgiving dinner with the in-laws.

[Bluside]

When it comes to kidney stone pain, size doesn't matter.

[gabrielnovar]

the real question is when it passes, the moments/minutes/hours after does it feel absolutely euphoric? lol

like you are brand new again

[joeychitwood]

The patients I treated were as happy as a human can get when the stone hit the bladder. Euphoria is a great term for it. And few, if any, ever noticed discomfort as it traversed the final stretch between the bladder and the outside world.

[Blah114aa]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

The patients I treated were as happy as a human can get when the stone hit the bladder. Euphoria is a great term for it. And few, if any, ever noticed discomfort as it traversed the final stretch between the bladder and the outside world.

Thanks for all you do.

[Blah114aa]

There’s a gal I know, now, that has weekly stones. Her pain was once excruciating enough to go to ER. Here’s her regimen.. she’s had stents and surgery also a few times.... Before finally doing below..

Drink water. She sets her phone alarm 7-7 , 7 days weekly.. to ring every two hours and drinks one cup,of water when the alarm rings

She no longer drinks soda or coffee.

She mixes one teaspoon of lemon water with a cup of water once daily. The lemon water , organic, helps prevent formation of stones, she says.

Anytime she has alcohol, she counters it by drinking 2-3 glasses of water afterwards.

Since starting this regimen two years ago, she’s not had new pain since.

Once when a doctor removed her stent... she had 10-15 small stones attached to the stent. She then realized she’d been having stones for 20 years but had been passing them unknowingly, since she wasn’t aware of what a kidney stone was exactly

I like the idea of a phone alarm. She really drinks 12+ cups of water daily, one of which has lemon juice mixed in. She only uses organic lemon juice. Her doctor says the research on lemon juice is “inconclusive....” but admits it cannot hurt. I’ve read it works and drink lemon juice daily. One teaspoon per a glass of water ... just once.