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clbcpa · 28 January 2009, 12:40 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-Rolex-Subma...lenotsupported
Already has bids. I love how the movement is described as "ticking?" I dont think the face of this "valuable first run red lettering" is worth much on the vintage market

TimeToGo · 28 January 2009, 10:10 PM

You just can not make this stuff up!

Paul B · 29 January 2009, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by clbcpa

http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-Rolex-Subma...lenotsupported
Already has bids. I love how the movement is described as "ticking?" I dont think the face of this "valuable first run red lettering" is worth much on the vintage market

Edumacate me, why do you say it's a fake?

Thanks,

Paul

clbcpa · 29 January 2009, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul B

Edumacate me, why do you say it's a fake?

Thanks,

Paul

IMHO, its the inconsistencies in the listing that are suspect, mainly that the add is for a Red Sub but what is displayed as the watch for sale is a stock picture of a DSRD. I did try and contact the seller with no luck yet.

ibsober · 29 January 2009, 05:05 AM

Talked to the seller. He stated that the pictures of the DRSD were the "closest" he could find. I also ask if he could provide the appraisal from the Oklahoma AD. He stated the appraisal was verbal. I suggested he bring the auction down himself, get a written appraisal from the AD, and post actual pictures of the watch in question. Only time will tell.

clbcpa · 29 January 2009, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ibsober

Talked to the seller. He stated that the pictures of the DRSD were the "closest" he could find. I also ask if he could provide the appraisal from the Oklahoma AD. He stated the appraisal was verbal. I suggested he bring the auction down himself, get a written appraisal from the AD, and post actual pictures of the watch in question. Only time will tell.

Excellent!

JimW · 29 January 2009, 05:37 AM

Hey, odd as this sounds, at least the seller was someone who listed phone numbers and will talk about the watch.

clbcpa · 29 January 2009, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JimW

Hey, odd as this sounds, at least the seller was someone who listed phone numbers and will talk about the watch.

Very true.

Paul B · 29 January 2009, 06:27 AM

Thanks for the reply. I had no idea that there were full fake DRSD's out there, did a search and was stunned to see that they even have web sites with people dedicated to buying 100% fake DRSD's and replacing crystals, crowns, and even dials with originals to improve the quality of the fake! Learn something every day, never thought they had gone as far as to fake vintage SD's...

Paul

ibsober · 29 January 2009, 06:45 AM

Seems the guy was not trying to mess with anyone. He brought the watch down and by e-mail assured me he would re-list it with actual pictures of his watch...might be a nice 1680 Red Sub, or at least this is how it was described.

onkyo · 29 January 2009, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ibsober

Seems the guy was not trying to mess with anyone. He brought the watch down and by e-mail assured me he would re-list it with actual pictures of his watch...might be a nice 1680 Red Sub, or at least this is how it was described.

I too was baffled by his posting and thinking scam....

We will see if erica.dba405 posts real pics.

I have noted his seller ID and will follow up on this.

JimW · 29 January 2009, 10:31 AM

I agree with ibsober & Pav. I am going to do the wait and see routine. Oh and the guy did the right thing and ended the auction.

28 January 2009, 12:40 PM	#1
clbcpa 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: georgia Watch: 5508 Posts: 758	Grandad needs a place to rest http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-Rolex-Subma...lenotsupported Already has bids. I love how the movement is described as "ticking?" I dont think the face of this "valuable first run red lettering" is worth much on the vintage market __________________

28 January 2009, 10:10 PM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	You just can not make this stuff up!

29 January 2009, 05:05 AM	#5
ibsober "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Odessa, TX Posts: 237	Talked to the seller. He stated that the pictures of the DRSD were the "closest" he could find. I also ask if he could provide the appraisal from the Oklahoma AD. He stated the appraisal was verbal. I suggested he bring the auction down himself, get a written appraisal from the AD, and post actual pictures of the watch in question. Only time will tell.

29 January 2009, 05:37 AM	#7
JimW Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Jim Location: Kentucky Watch: 18k Datejust Posts: 196	Hey, odd as this sounds, at least the seller was someone who listed phone numbers and will talk about the watch.

29 January 2009, 06:27 AM	#9
Paul B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: Canada/NY Watch: Don't go there... Posts: 366	Thanks for the reply. I had no idea that there were full fake DRSD's out there, did a search and was stunned to see that they even have web sites with people dedicated to buying 100% fake DRSD's and replacing crystals, crowns, and even dials with originals to improve the quality of the fake! Learn something every day, never thought they had gone as far as to fake vintage SD's... Paul

29 January 2009, 06:45 AM	#10
ibsober "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Odessa, TX Posts: 237	Seems the guy was not trying to mess with anyone. He brought the watch down and by e-mail assured me he would re-list it with actual pictures of his watch...might be a nice 1680 Red Sub, or at least this is how it was described.

29 January 2009, 10:31 AM	#12
JimW Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Jim Location: Kentucky Watch: 18k Datejust Posts: 196	I agree with ibsober & Pav. I am going to do the wait and see routine. Oh and the guy did the right thing and ended the auction.

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