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rijowysock · 1 February 2009, 10:54 AM

does anyone know what years (serials) did the hole'd cases end for each model? i notice no holes cases for each model around different times but since i lack knowledge of pre 00' rolex im not sure when they stopped the holes case for the no holes cases.. the holes cases seem much more secure as the spring bars look almost "bulletproof" as in much more sturdy..

thanx

walds11 · 1 February 2009, 11:40 AM

Lug holes ended somewhere around late Y serial for the Sub Date. Not sure about the GMT II, maybe the same?

I have a Y serial SS Sub date. I prefer lug holes for the more sporty/tool look.

Whiskey · 1 February 2009, 12:43 PM

Lug-holes look aweful.

Best thing Rolex ever did was do away with them for much of their sports line.

The watches look stronger and more refined without them.

Now all Rolex has to do is get rid of them on their ND Sub.

Then the circle will be complete.

bodybump · 1 February 2009, 12:45 PM

no holes are better it makes the look more cleaner and sturdy..

WatchTimes · 1 February 2009, 12:48 PM

I wish I could find a easy way to take off the
bands on the no lug cases....

It is always a pain in the butt for me so I rarely change it.

ippon20 · 1 February 2009, 12:54 PM

Lug holes, the original...and my favorite by far. Not only does it make removing the bracelet a million times faster, but I do recall hearing that the springbars are a bit stronger than those on the no lug hold cases.

STEELINOX · 1 February 2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ippon20

Lug holes, the original...and my favorite by far. Not only does it make removing the bracelet a million times faster, but I do recall hearing that the springbars are a bit stronger than those on the no lug hold cases.

The "holed casings" provide longer spring pin - i believe its a full mm of length longer (per side) which imho IS superior to the shorter pin penetration for the clean cased vns. ROLEX would no doubt say they are just as strong, but the dimension speaks for itself and provides not only strength but fn'ality for quick removal/replace. LONG LIVE HOLED ROLEXs !

Thanks,
Randy

PS: Riley, I believe "K and Y" were the last series...

rijowysock · 1 February 2009, 01:59 PM

thanx everyone so far ;-)

gmt 16750 · 1 February 2009, 06:36 PM

Well I'm much more of a fan of the case lugs with holes, esp. for the sports line...they are [were??] designed as tool watches after all
(plus it sure does make changing the bracelet a breeze).

Overkill · 1 February 2009, 06:42 PM

I have a Y Serial Sub with holes... I love them.

yannis · 1 February 2009, 06:44 PM

I love holes!!

Serious, there is something classic about lugholes i like them!!

padi56 · 1 February 2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rijowysock

does anyone know what years (serials) did the hole'd cases end for each model? i notice no holes cases for each model around different times but since i lack knowledge of pre 00' rolex im not sure when they stopped the holes case for the no holes cases.. the holes cases seem much more secure as the spring bars look almost "bulletproof" as in much more sturdy..

thanx

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8478

padi56 · 1 February 2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

The "holed casings" provide longer spring pin - i believe its a full mm of length longer (per side) which imho IS superior to the shorter pin penetration for the clean cased vns. ROLEX would no doubt say they are just as strong, but the dimension speaks for itself and provides not only strength but fn'ality for quick removal/replace. LONG LIVE HOLED ROLEXs !

Thanks,
Randy
PS: Riley, I believe "K and Y" were the last series...

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmt 16750

Well I'm much more of a fan of the case lugs with holes, esp. for the sports line...they are [were??] designed as tool watches after all
(plus it sure does make changing the bracelet a breeze).

Have you agree with you lug holes in many ways are better,but less drilling time for every case, equals more production time to make more cases.

Dan Pierce · 2 February 2009, 12:12 AM

I'm holy too. Well, in the lug hole sense.

The biggest reason for me is all the benefits the holes supply and I never even notice them.

Can anyone answer Riley's question? I'd like to know as well.

dP

Jocke · 2 February 2009, 12:20 AM

For me it´s easy.

Toolwatch = lug holes
Dresswatch = no lug holes

Or why noy get a set of those?

Jocke

STEELINOX · 2 February 2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Have you agree with you lug holes in many ways are better,but less drilling time for every case, equals more production time to make more cases.

I think its still the same set up except that for the clean cases you NOW have to set a DEPTH setting so you dont poke thru - this means MORE set-up time required...
Actually, once its set-up, its press "start" and forgeddaboudit !
Besides the "holed case" set up hasn't been in the "line" for years.
I wish they'd bring it back.

yannis · 2 February 2009, 12:24 AM

You are a nutter Jocke!!

STEELINOX · 2 February 2009, 02:07 AM

can you imagine the pain suffered to get this on:

picture nabbed from Jakes Rolex watch Blog !
Thanks,
Randy

JJ Irani · 2 February 2009, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

can you imagine the pain suffered to get this on:

picture nabbed from Jakes Rolex watch Blog !
Thanks,
Randy

And can you imagine the pain I'm going through watching that horrendous picture?

STEELINOX · 2 February 2009, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

And can you imagine the pain I'm going through watching that horrendous picture?

Actually it looks pretty "tough" !

DoxaDavid · 2 February 2009, 03:05 AM

I am all for the holes on a sport model and without on a dress. I heard of someone who actually drilled out their new Sub so they had the holes. Don't think I would go that far..

Jocke · 2 February 2009, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

And can you imagine the pain I'm going through watching that horrendous picture?

It´s not worse than this:

Jocke

DoxaDavid · 2 February 2009, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

It´s not worse than this:

Jocke

padi56 · 2 February 2009, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

It´s not worse than this:

Jocke

Must say you wear that Nato band well JJ quite a big improvement.

Jocke · 2 February 2009, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Must say you wear that Nato band well JJ quite a big improvement.

Yes and it keeps the wig in place too.

Jocke

B Square · 2 February 2009, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

It´s not worse than this:

Jocke

Oh my

STEELINOX · 2 February 2009, 03:53 AM

!

Wolfgang427 · 2 February 2009, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

It´s not worse than this:

Jocke

Holy smokes...

You've done it now Jocke, JJ's going to blow his top off (literally

).

Overkill · 2 February 2009, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

It´s not worse than this:

Jocke

OMG I think I just wet my pants laughing!

The Nato on JJ's head!

Bisquitlips · 2 February 2009, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

The "holed casings" provide longer spring pin - i believe its a full mm of length longer (per side) which imho IS superior to the shorter pin penetration for the clean cased vns. ROLEX would no doubt say they are just as strong, but the dimension speaks for itself and provides not only strength but fn'ality for quick removal/replace. LONG LIVE HOLED ROLEXs !

Thanks,
Randy

PS: Riley, I believe "K and Y" were the last series...

Agreed! A bit stronger and the holed look doesn't bother me at all.

1 February 2009, 10:54 AM	#1
rijowysock "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Riley Location: 41.89° N, 87.62° Watch: URWERK Posts: 499	holes vs no holes.. does anyone know what years (serials) did the hole'd cases end for each model? i notice no holes cases for each model around different times but since i lack knowledge of pre 00' rolex im not sure when they stopped the holes case for the no holes cases.. the holes cases seem much more secure as the spring bars look almost "bulletproof" as in much more sturdy.. thanx

1 February 2009, 11:40 AM	#2
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	Lug holes ended somewhere around late Y serial for the Sub Date. Not sure about the GMT II, maybe the same? I have a Y serial SS Sub date. I prefer lug holes for the more sporty/tool look. __________________ Adam

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bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,233	no holes are better it makes the look more cleaner and sturdy.. __________________

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WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	I wish I could find a easy way to take off the bands on the no lug cases.... It is always a pain in the butt for me so I rarely change it. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

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ippon20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: Orlando/NSB, FL Watch: 16710 (3186) Posts: 1,629	Lug holes, the original...and my favorite by far. Not only does it make removing the bracelet a million times faster, but I do recall hearing that the springbars are a bit stronger than those on the no lug hold cases. __________________ Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Instagram @pivot_and_spine

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Whiskey Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Watch: Deepsea Posts: 521	Lug-holes look aweful. Best thing Rolex ever did was do away with them for much of their sports line. The watches look stronger and more refined without them. Now all Rolex has to do is get rid of them on their ND Sub. Then the circle will be complete.

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rijowysock "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Riley Location: 41.89° N, 87.62° Watch: URWERK Posts: 499	thanx everyone so far ;-)

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gmt 16750 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Neil Location: Borders, Scotland Watch: what your doing. Posts: 970	Well I'm much more of a fan of the case lugs with holes, esp. for the sports line...they are [were??] designed as tool watches after all (plus it sure does make changing the bracelet a breeze). __________________

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