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Moggo · 25 June 2019, 01:47 AM

The Seamaster master co-axial without the helium escape valve looks lovely (not entirely sure of the model)

But not sure I could spend nearly £5K on it, seems a bit strong as it will lose money quickly I would guess.

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Justingtr · 25 June 2019, 02:02 AM

The bracelet on the Seamaster is horrible. To me it looks like a bad attempt at a jubilee

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thewheel82 · 25 June 2019, 03:59 AM

Neither watch is necessarily better. You could make an easier argument that the Omega SMP is the better watch from a technical perspective, as others have already described. I own the new SMP and Rolex Explorer. I chose the SMP over the Sub, but still love the Sub.

Market demand and styling are personal preferences. So many fanboys on here say watch ABC is "better" than watch XYZ simply because they like it better but provide zero factual statements as to why. It can be quite comical but is also tiresome due to lack of objective reasoning.

007timer · 25 June 2019, 04:03 AM

I have both. I love both. Omega keeps better time than Rolex, but not by much. They are equally good but Rolex holds better value.

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lhawli · 25 June 2019, 05:03 AM

I do not own the SM (rather the original 42mm PO); however, looking at build, technology, value and bulletproof-ness, I can safely say that the SM is a notch ahead of the Sub. Styling, status, history and recognition is a whole other game and that's where the Sub gets the upper hand.

Having said that, I cannot seem to get over the bracelet style and the fact it does not tapper as well as the skeleton hands of the SM - they are just ugly! And why change the He crown to look like a Reeses cup!!!

forcinitijp · 25 June 2019, 05:07 AM

It gives me a lot of laughter as they try to defend the SUB, even knowing that they are so scamming with the price ...

supposedly with a watch from another league as many say ... they seem many defenses for what they argue

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Krash · 25 June 2019, 10:22 AM

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It gives me a lot of laughter as they try to defend the SUB, even knowing that they are so scamming with the price ...

supposedly with a watch from another league as many say ... they seem many defenses for what they argue

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I’m a big fan of the Seamaster. I might get one, but honestly, in real life, there is no comparison. On the internet and on YouTube videos, they might look like equals, but not in real life. The Sub is in a different league.

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Onikage · 25 June 2019, 05:21 AM

At least it's not just people who bought the one steel Rolex who are tearing into Omega and we're all enthusiasts who've owned several of each.

drtii · 25 June 2019, 06:00 AM

There are Omega's that I like, such as the Speedmaster Professional, but the Seamaster IMO is one of the ugliest watches I've ever seen. I just can't get over how ridiculous it looks. From the bezel to the dial. It's just...not right.

That's not a knock on the brand. I would most definitely wear Omega, I simply can't even look at the Seamaster without thinking it looks hokey. The black model is a bit more understated and I can start see why people would buy one, then you see the blue and it's like holy...no. just no.

seabreeze60 · 25 June 2019, 06:24 AM

While you are on the subject, what is your opinion of this version of the Seamaster Aqua Terra?

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Seibei · 25 June 2019, 09:14 AM

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While you are on the subject, what is your opinion of this version of the Seamaster Aqua Terra?

Reminds me of something like a gold plated Casio. What kind of sea master has a leather strap and gold case anyway?

seabreeze60 · 25 June 2019, 09:25 AM

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Reminds me of something like a gold plated Casio. What kind of sea master has a leather strap and gold case anyway?

Thanks! This thread is saving me lots of money.

Seibei · 25 June 2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by seabreeze60

Thanks! This thread is saving me lots of money.

forcinitijp · 25 June 2019, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Seibei

I understand that people who are only from one brand, or who cost them a lot to buy one of their products, feel like their guardians and defenders, instead of the people for whom Rolex is just one more brand in the market appreciates several brands of wristwatches and how I find them all attractive, from a Japanese watch like the Grand Seiko to one of the brands of the Holy Trinity, finding and appreciating the work of each watchmaker even more than one home with as much history as Omega is.

forcinitijp · 25 June 2019, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Seibei

Reminds me of something like a gold plated Casio. What kind of sea master has a leather strap and gold case anyway?

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/nautilus/5726A-001

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/nautilus/5712R-001

Patek thinks differently than you think ...

seabreeze60 · 25 June 2019, 10:20 AM

The problem is with forums and other brands is that there is little participation. Rolex fans are by far the most passionate.

jezza17 · 26 June 2019, 02:57 AM

Both rolex and omega are built to outlast us so get whatever sings to you.

Mike 75 · 26 June 2019, 03:27 AM

PO>Sub>SMP, IMO.
However, a SD beats all three.

forcinitijp · 26 June 2019, 03:57 AM

Tool watch!

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Roddypeepa · 26 June 2019, 05:20 AM

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Tool watch!

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That’s one way of putting it.

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Moggo · 26 June 2019, 05:41 AM

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Tool watch!

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He’s not that bad!

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oldman2005 · 26 June 2019, 05:53 AM

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Tool watch!

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He could have worn a Submariner but he's still on the waiting list. War will wait for no one!

It's good to see Omega is giving Rolex a tough fight in the SS diver market, but how can Rolex win if it doesn't show up and basically is giving tittle away to Omega.

007timer · 26 June 2019, 06:06 AM

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He could have worn a Submariner but he's still on the waiting list. War will wait for no one!

It's good to see Omega is giving Rolex a tough fight in the SS diver market, but how can Rolex win if it doesn't show up and basically is giving tittle away to Omega.

Rolex is not giving up. It’s revenue is sky high. It’s a strategy to maintain the level of production and sell more of the less popular models like two tone watches and even precious metal watches at a rate never seen before.

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greengold · 26 June 2019, 06:18 AM

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He could have worn a Submariner but he's still on the waiting list. War will wait for no one!

It's good to see Omega is giving Rolex a tough fight in the SS diver market, but how can Rolex win if it doesn't show up and basically is giving tittle away to Omega.

Actually his SMP was a gift from his mother Diana Princess Of Wales hence it has great sentimental value to him. Interesting she chose it over the Submariner..

Seibei · 26 June 2019, 06:30 AM

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Actually his SMP was a gift from his mother Diana Princess Of Wales hence it has great sentimental value to him. Interesting she chose it over the Submariner..

She probably wasn't a watch person.

filsgreen · 26 June 2019, 06:33 AM

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She probably wasn't a watch person.

Why?

forcinitijp · 26 June 2019, 06:38 AM

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She probably wasn't a watch person.

The Royal Navy use Seamaster in blue ...

The SUB in gold diamond, now, is used by Ronaldo... out of the soccer field...

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Justinmg · 28 June 2019, 10:58 AM

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She probably wasn't a watch person.

I think the opposite, most Rolex owners buy for brand Recognition.

AJMarcus · 27 August 2019, 05:50 AM

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She probably wasn't a watch person.

Back in the day Omega sold them in mall department stores in the US next to Tags. They were a step up from a fashion watch with all the hype from brosnan at the time. The quartz Seamaster was a big seller for omega at that time. Seriously....

Onequik135i · 26 June 2019, 06:33 AM

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Actually his SMP was a gift from his mother Diana Princess Of Wales hence it has great sentimental value to him. Interesting she chose it over the Submariner..

Wow, I can see why he would wear it quite frequently then. I have always admired the 2531.80 and sold mine, but this thread is now making me regret selling it otherwise. I’m not too fond of the newer Ceramic ones.

25 June 2019, 05:03 AM	#5
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25 June 2019, 05:07 AM	#6
forcinitijp 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Juan Location: Delaware Watch: 14060M/214270 Posts: 284	Submariner vs Seamaster It gives me a lot of laughter as they try to defend the SUB, even knowing that they are so scamming with the price ... supposedly with a watch from another league as many say ... they seem many defenses for what they argue Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ «Watches? In those of the ancient world, when they were sunny, there was a phrase inscribed: Omnia vulnerant, ultima necat all the hours hurt, the last kills. That certainty is, ultimately, the secret mechanism that moves the hands of the clock.

25 June 2019, 05:21 AM	#8
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	At least it's not just people who bought the one steel Rolex who are tearing into Omega and we're all enthusiasts who've owned several of each. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

26 June 2019, 03:57 AM	#19
forcinitijp 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Juan Location: Delaware Watch: 14060M/214270 Posts: 284	Tool watch! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ «Watches? In those of the ancient world, when they were sunny, there was a phrase inscribed: Omnia vulnerant, ultima necat all the hours hurt, the last kills. That certainty is, ultimately, the secret mechanism that moves the hands of the clock.

25 June 2019, 01:47 AM	#1
Moggo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Wales Watch: 16610, SD4K, Exp 1 Posts: 1,098	The Seamaster master co-axial without the helium escape valve looks lovely (not entirely sure of the model) But not sure I could spend nearly £5K on it, seems a bit strong as it will lose money quickly I would guess. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 June 2019, 02:02 AM	#2
Justingtr "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Laredo Posts: 191	The bracelet on the Seamaster is horrible. To me it looks like a bad attempt at a jubilee Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

25 June 2019, 03:59 AM	#3
thewheel82 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 104	Neither watch is necessarily better. You could make an easier argument that the Omega SMP is the better watch from a technical perspective, as others have already described. I own the new SMP and Rolex Explorer. I chose the SMP over the Sub, but still love the Sub. Market demand and styling are personal preferences. So many fanboys on here say watch ABC is "better" than watch XYZ simply because they like it better but provide zero factual statements as to why. It can be quite comical but is also tiresome due to lack of objective reasoning.

25 June 2019, 04:03 AM	#4
007timer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: US Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,383	I have both. I love both. Omega keeps better time than Rolex, but not by much. They are equally good but Rolex holds better value. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 June 2019, 06:00 AM	#9
drtii Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Dan Location: West Coast Watch: 216570 \| 126660 Posts: 582	There are Omega's that I like, such as the Speedmaster Professional, but the Seamaster IMO is one of the ugliest watches I've ever seen. I just can't get over how ridiculous it looks. From the bezel to the dial. It's just...not right. That's not a knock on the brand. I would most definitely wear Omega, I simply can't even look at the Seamaster without thinking it looks hokey. The black model is a bit more understated and I can start see why people would buy one, then you see the blue and it's like holy...no. just no.

25 June 2019, 06:24 AM	#10
seabreeze60 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: Tudor, Carl F. Buc Posts: 1,580	While you are on the subject, what is your opinion of this version of the Seamaster Aqua Terra?

25 June 2019, 10:20 AM	#16
seabreeze60 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: Tudor, Carl F. Buc Posts: 1,580	The problem is with forums and other brands is that there is little participation. Rolex fans are by far the most passionate.

26 June 2019, 02:57 AM	#17
jezza17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: DRSD Posts: 511	Both rolex and omega are built to outlast us so get whatever sings to you.

26 June 2019, 03:27 AM	#18
Mike 75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: South Central Watch: PO 2200.50 Posts: 37	PO>Sub>SMP, IMO. However, a SD beats all three.

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