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BVLGARI89 · 8 February 2009, 11:54 AM

Hello Guys,

Today while i was heading to work parked my car i found a bvlgari watch laying in the snow so i picked it up and research it and found its a really expensive watch so im just curious how can you tell if this watch is fake/replica from the looks of it i research it and it looks like a "BVLGARI ASSIOMA" take a look at the pictures tell me what you think ? also the watch looks like it could be an older model it looks sorta worn out. At the very bottom it reads [S.Swiss] and [MADE S] if that helps.

let me know if you need more pics. Thanks

Mosco · 8 February 2009, 01:38 PM

From the looks of it you hit a jackpot - the case is definitely real, and so is the rotor. The rest is just a 7750, so no reason for it to not be real. Only odd thing is - no serial number on caseback. Could be the way they did it a few years ago.

BVLGARI89 · 8 February 2009, 01:54 PM

Im assuming this is a older model of the assioma series ....Maybe it belong to an old guy with a small wrist lol it fits pretty tight on me. Any idea how much this watch go for?

What do you mean mosco when you say "The rest is just a 7750?

WatchTimes · 8 February 2009, 03:10 PM

Valijoux 7750 Movement

Still sold, you can find em for $3500 new.

I don't know how much of a resale they have though
I thought they had serial #'s on the back though???
Also its hard to tell about the text on front....
Seems like its fading in one of the pics and it shouldnt be wearing
that easily BUT that may just be the pic

topcat30093 · 8 February 2009, 05:37 PM

I don't know anything about this brand of watch.
But the 7750 movement is very well known, throughout the watching fraternity, it is fitted to a large number of watches such as IWC.
Recently Valijoux were taken over by ETA, which as we all know is part of the Swatch group.

I bet that the owner will be grateful to get it back.
It looks like it has been worn for quite a number of years.

BVLGARI89 · 8 February 2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

Valijoux 7750 Movement

Still sold, you can find em for $3500 new.

I don't know how much of a resale they have though
I thought they had serial #'s on the back though???
Also its hard to tell about the text on front....
Seems like its fading in one of the pics and it shouldnt be wearing
that easily BUT that may just be the pic

Hey yogi

Its not fading It was the way the picture was taken. Would it be a good idea to take it to a jewelry store see how much is worth?

WatchTimes · 9 February 2009, 12:52 AM

No, it would be a good idea to try and find the owner...

File a report with the police and your office building
as it sounds like you found it in the office parking lot.

Keeping it is wrong....
If you take it in for service ever it will be taken from you.
If you sell it and that person takes it in for service you could have charges of selling stolen property against you (even though you found it, if you dont try to find the owner its stolen).

Seriously... It's not worth the bad karma for the little you will get from it...
Do the right thing

Terry Newton · 9 February 2009, 01:43 AM

I agree with trying to return it. How would you feel if you had lost your watch? Would you not want someone to do the right thing and return it? Place an ad in the newspaper; that you found a watch in a parking lot, name the parking lot, ask the owner to call you and identify the watch. If they call and say; "I lost my expensive Bvlgari", you know you found the owner, return it. Life's too short to not feel good about what you do and who you are. My motto is; "At the end of the day, I have to like who I see in the mirror."

Terry Newton

TimeToGo · 9 February 2009, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

I agree with trying to return it. How would you feel if you had lost your watch? Would you not want someone to do the right thing and return it? Place an ad in the newspaper; that you found a watch in a parking lot, name the parking lot, ask the owner to call you and identify the watch. If they call and say; "I lost my expensive Bvlgari", you know you found the owner, return it. Life's too short to not feel good about what you do and who you are. My motto is; "At the end of the day, I have to like who I see in the mirror."

Terry Newton

It's the right / honorable thing to do!

onkyo · 9 February 2009, 03:34 AM

Agree 100% with Terry and TTG above.

BVLGARI89 · 9 February 2009, 08:22 AM

Thanks for the advise guys but its sorta too late now i already sold it.

WatchTimes · 9 February 2009, 08:44 AM

That's just low........
That just shows your character...
Real nice.

Thanks for posting this and telling us, now I know to avoid doing business
with you for certain!

Karma will come back and bite you bad......

Mosco · 9 February 2009, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVLGARI89

Thanks for the advise guys but its sorta too late now i already sold it.

This guy smells funny.... Besides the fact he sold it - why in the f*$@ would he come in here and ask about authenticity of a 'found' Bvlgari (which looked real, btw), not wait until all the opinions land, and then all of a sudden the watch is sold already? Douchebag alert!!!

jeff hess · 9 February 2009, 09:08 AM

As an aside,
The law, in florida anyway, that if you "find something" on the ground it is not yours to sell.

Over the counter buyers are not even allowed by law to buy it.

I believe you must turn it over to the police and, if no one claims it after 30 or 45 days, it becomes yours.

Jeff

Terry Newton · 9 February 2009, 11:37 AM

Maybe you should pick another forum to be a member of. Even if you did sell it you are guilty of a crime and so is the person who bought it from you. Why don't you go find another place to play.

Terry Newton

tudorman8276 · 9 February 2009, 11:44 AM

...the ethical and HONORABLE thing to have done would have been to turn it in to the Police station.

...if, after a certain amount of time, you would be able to claim it as yours if the rightful owner did not report it lost/stolen.

Stan.

GBJIV · 9 February 2009, 12:27 PM

Dude, not cool. If you can undo the sale - my opinion is that you should. Call the police and turn it in. If nobody claims the property - it may become rightfully yours. Check your States laws. Always better to do the right thing IMO.

WatchTimes · 9 February 2009, 04:07 PM

You are now a Felon in the state of NY....
How do you feel about that?
You have also exposed someone else to potential charges as well
if they take the watch in for service or something like that.

Do us all a favor and delete your account, people with ethics like yours
are not needed here....

topcat30093 · 9 February 2009, 05:03 PM

I have to ask, after reading this low life's post.Even though I gave him a gentle push in the right direction.
WHY HAS HE NOT BEEN BANNED BY THE MODS, DO WE AS A FORUM CONDOME THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOUR, I THINK NOT.
SO PLEASE BAN THIS S!!M

BVLGARI89 · 9 February 2009, 11:02 PM

Man you guys are so mess up i have done nothing wrong to get banned from this forum,by the way The economy is so F up right now nobody is playing by the rules just look at "MADEOFF"...you guys wont know how to survive in the jungle you gotta play dirty in order to survive in this world !! Sorry but that's just life and we must now go live it!! =]

WatchTimes · 10 February 2009, 12:20 AM

No, you are a criminal...

You are a low down thief.

You took something which may have been very important to someone and sold it, in turn you turned the purchaser into a criminal as well as they are now wearing stolen property.

Now pack your bags and go somewhere else NO ONE here want's to deal with a known thief.

You are the one whose messed up....

You admitted right here in the forum that you committed a felony, that is reason enough to ban you....

Gedanken · 10 February 2009, 12:21 AM

What can I say? Your ethics or lack thereof just don't fit here. It's best for all involved that you leave now.

Mosco · 10 February 2009, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVLGARI89

Man you guys are so mess up i have done nothing wrong to get banned from this forum,by the way The economy is so F up right now nobody is playing by the rules just look at "MADEOFF"...you guys wont know how to survive in the jungle you gotta play dirty in order to survive in this world !! Sorry but that's just life and we must now go live it!! =]

You know, dude, you're absolutely right. Don't ban this guy - he has some good points. As a matter of fact, he inspires me. The economy IS really f*&#ed up, so desperate times call for desperate measures.

Some guy decided to wire me the money for a watch he bought - I am not sending him anything - what the hell is he going to do? It is MY money now.

I went outside today and snatched a purse from some old lady - not like she can catch me. Only had $100 in there - but the economy is so f*&#ed up - that will help.

Does that sound right? NO, IT DOESN'T.

BVLGARI, dude, you're a doucebag. When things are bad, it does not give you the right to do unethical things, especially when they're illegal on top of everything. However, it is not our job to stop all scumbags (we can try, but it is futile), and remember: KARMA IS A (female dog).

thunderyacht · 10 February 2009, 04:26 AM

This dude is a troll; came here to do nothing but stir up trouble. Don't respond to the freak and he'll go away

TimeToGo · 10 February 2009, 04:43 AM

He actually came, got an answer to his question (the legitimacy of the watch), and he sold it for a profit. I think we all tried to have him do the right thing and guide him in the right direction. Some folks you just can't rescue. He was led down the greed path and only thought of himself at the time.

This - truly - could have turned a lot better. We tried.

I hope the rightful owner had insurance and gets full replacement value /or/ that the thief (that calls himself as the finder's keeper) gets caught for his actions.

Defiancekofb · 10 February 2009, 05:18 AM

Judging by the background of the watch photos, it looks like the thief is a lowdown college student, hopefully, he will fail his classes.

This is the dirtiest post I have ever read on the internet.

watchdawg · 10 February 2009, 05:26 AM

Just another scumbag

idk01 · 10 February 2009, 01:24 PM

I can't believe it, talk about stomach turning stuff, what will some people do to make a quick buck?????

I know beginning of last year I found a Seiko watch, no markings, probably worth a couple hundred bucks, handed it in to the local police, turns out it had great sentimental value to the owner, they contacted me after picking up the watch offered me $50 for finding it, I couldn't even take the money.... the reason, This is what I would expect my community around me to do if I lost something of value... I'll rephrase that anything at all!!!!!

I can't stop thinking about the original owner of the watch, I know how I'd feel if I lost one of my watches!!!!

this is one gut wrenched Dave!

8 February 2009, 11:54 AM	#1
BVLGARI89 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 5	Bvlgari real or fake? Hello Guys, Today while i was heading to work parked my car i found a bvlgari watch laying in the snow so i picked it up and research it and found its a really expensive watch so im just curious how can you tell if this watch is fake/replica from the looks of it i research it and it looks like a "BVLGARI ASSIOMA" take a look at the pictures tell me what you think ? also the watch looks like it could be an older model it looks sorta worn out. At the very bottom it reads [S.Swiss] and [MADE S] if that helps. let me know if you need more pics. Thanks

8 February 2009, 01:38 PM	#2
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	From the looks of it you hit a jackpot - the case is definitely real, and so is the rotor. The rest is just a 7750, so no reason for it to not be real. Only odd thing is - no serial number on caseback. Could be the way they did it a few years ago. __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

8 February 2009, 03:10 PM	#4
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	Valijoux 7750 Movement Still sold, you can find em for $3500 new. I don't know how much of a resale they have though I thought they had serial #'s on the back though??? Also its hard to tell about the text on front.... Seems like its fading in one of the pics and it shouldnt be wearing that easily BUT that may just be the pic __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

8 February 2009, 05:37 PM	#5
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,460	I don't know anything about this brand of watch. But the 7750 movement is very well known, throughout the watching fraternity, it is fitted to a large number of watches such as IWC. Recently Valijoux were taken over by ETA, which as we all know is part of the Swatch group. I bet that the owner will be grateful to get it back. It looks like it has been worn for quite a number of years. __________________

9 February 2009, 12:52 AM	#7
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	No, it would be a good idea to try and find the owner... File a report with the police and your office building as it sounds like you found it in the office parking lot. Keeping it is wrong.... If you take it in for service ever it will be taken from you. If you sell it and that person takes it in for service you could have charges of selling stolen property against you (even though you found it, if you dont try to find the owner its stolen). Seriously... It's not worth the bad karma for the little you will get from it... Do the right thing __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

8 February 2009, 01:54 PM	#3
BVLGARI89 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 5	Im assuming this is a older model of the assioma series ....Maybe it belong to an old guy with a small wrist lol it fits pretty tight on me. Any idea how much this watch go for? What do you mean mosco when you say "The rest is just a 7750?

9 February 2009, 01:43 AM	#8
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I agree with trying to return it. How would you feel if you had lost your watch? Would you not want someone to do the right thing and return it? Place an ad in the newspaper; that you found a watch in a parking lot, name the parking lot, ask the owner to call you and identify the watch. If they call and say; "I lost my expensive Bvlgari", you know you found the owner, return it. Life's too short to not feel good about what you do and who you are. My motto is; "At the end of the day, I have to like who I see in the mirror." Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

9 February 2009, 03:34 AM	#10
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Agree 100% with Terry and TTG above.

9 February 2009, 08:22 AM	#11
BVLGARI89 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 5	Thanks for the advise guys but its sorta too late now i already sold it.

9 February 2009, 08:44 AM	#12
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	That's just low........ That just shows your character... Real nice. Thanks for posting this and telling us, now I know to avoid doing business with you for certain! Karma will come back and bite you bad...... __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

9 February 2009, 09:08 AM	#14
jeff hess "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jeffrey P Hess Location: florida Watch: Patek and Ball Posts: 516	As an aside, The law, in florida anyway, that if you "find something" on the ground it is not yours to sell. Over the counter buyers are not even allowed by law to buy it. I believe you must turn it over to the police and, if no one claims it after 30 or 45 days, it becomes yours. Jeff

9 February 2009, 11:37 AM	#15
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Maybe you should pick another forum to be a member of. Even if you did sell it you are guilty of a crime and so is the person who bought it from you. Why don't you go find another place to play. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

9 February 2009, 11:44 AM	#16
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...question your ETHICS.... ...the ethical and HONORABLE thing to have done would have been to turn it in to the Police station. ...if, after a certain amount of time, you would be able to claim it as yours if the rightful owner did not report it lost/stolen. Stan.

9 February 2009, 12:27 PM	#17
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	Dude, not cool. If you can undo the sale - my opinion is that you should. Call the police and turn it in. If nobody claims the property - it may become rightfully yours. Check your States laws. Always better to do the right thing IMO. __________________ Jackson

9 February 2009, 04:07 PM	#18
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	You are now a Felon in the state of NY.... How do you feel about that? You have also exposed someone else to potential charges as well if they take the watch in for service or something like that. Do us all a favor and delete your account, people with ethics like yours are not needed here.... __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

9 February 2009, 05:03 PM	#19
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,460	I have to ask, after reading this low life's post.Even though I gave him a gentle push in the right direction. WHY HAS HE NOT BEEN BANNED BY THE MODS, DO WE AS A FORUM CONDOME THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOUR, I THINK NOT. SO PLEASE BAN THIS S!!M __________________

9 February 2009, 11:02 PM	#20
BVLGARI89 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 5	Man you guys are so mess up i have done nothing wrong to get banned from this forum,by the way The economy is so F up right now nobody is playing by the rules just look at "MADEOFF"...you guys wont know how to survive in the jungle you gotta play dirty in order to survive in this world !! Sorry but that's just life and we must now go live it!! =]

10 February 2009, 12:20 AM	#21
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	No, you are a criminal... You are a low down thief. You took something which may have been very important to someone and sold it, in turn you turned the purchaser into a criminal as well as they are now wearing stolen property. Now pack your bags and go somewhere else NO ONE here want's to deal with a known thief. You are the one whose messed up.... You admitted right here in the forum that you committed a felony, that is reason enough to ban you.... __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

10 February 2009, 12:21 AM	#22
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	What can I say? Your ethics or lack thereof just don't fit here. It's best for all involved that you leave now. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

10 February 2009, 04:26 AM	#24
thunderyacht "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 126	This dude is a troll; came here to do nothing but stir up trouble. Don't respond to the freak and he'll go away

10 February 2009, 04:43 AM	#25
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	He actually came, got an answer to his question (the legitimacy of the watch), and he sold it for a profit. I think we all tried to have him do the right thing and guide him in the right direction. Some folks you just can't rescue. He was led down the greed path and only thought of himself at the time. This - truly - could have turned a lot better. We tried. I hope the rightful owner had insurance and gets full replacement value /or/ that the thief (that calls himself as the finder's keeper) gets caught for his actions.

10 February 2009, 05:18 AM	#26
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	Judging by the background of the watch photos, it looks like the thief is a lowdown college student, hopefully, he will fail his classes. This is the dirtiest post I have ever read on the internet.

10 February 2009, 05:26 AM	#27
watchdawg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Vic Location: Colorado/UAE Watch: GMT 1675 Posts: 494	Just another scumbag

10 February 2009, 01:24 PM	#28
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	I can't believe it, talk about stomach turning stuff, what will some people do to make a quick buck????? I know beginning of last year I found a Seiko watch, no markings, probably worth a couple hundred bucks, handed it in to the local police, turns out it had great sentimental value to the owner, they contacted me after picking up the watch offered me $50 for finding it, I couldn't even take the money.... the reason, This is what I would expect my community around me to do if I lost something of value... I'll rephrase that anything at all!!!!! I can't stop thinking about the original owner of the watch, I know how I'd feel if I lost one of my watches!!!! this is one gut wrenched Dave! __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

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