Unimpressed with new pepsi & RG GMT

[PepsiBezel]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

This really did make me laugh out loud. I'm only 35! Is that old these days??

I've tried to change my sn so many times but at this point, it's a part of my TRF persona, so it stays :-)

More 16710 love, with the last pic in the faded coke configuration (versatility!)

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haha! I tried... that does explain a lot, you a “digital era old soul,” with your devotion to Hotmail and the previous decade’s Rolex!

When you get older, you might want a newer watch to balance out your age... my conversion from 5-digit to 6-digit corresponded with my 40th!

Enjoy your 16710 — source an all-black bezel, it is killer for use on straps.

[JParm]

Originally Posted by Brian Page

great discussion! this wouldn't have anything to do with the new ceramic being impossible to get would it? - i love my 5 digit faded bezel.

I think the fact that the new pepsi is a bit hard to attain helps drive the desire for it. If it just sat in the case everywhere you looked, I'm sure there would be more people going meh about it.

I personally don't want things that are easily attainable for everyone. Yes, these Rolexes that we own aren't rare per se, but they are harder to come by than your run of the mill Tag Heuer or Omega that you can scoop up at any AD.

That's part of the reason why I have the collection that I do...went with the 3590.50 Speedmaster because you can't just buy it at any Omega shop - it isn't made anymore. 16710's are no longer in production and they aren't getting any cheaper. My Reverso is discontinued. It goes on and on, but aesthetics couple with desirability definitely plays a part in my collection.

[JParm]

Originally Posted by HarryFlashman

haha! I tried... that does explain a lot, you a “digital era old soul,” with your devotion to Hotmail and the previous decade’s Rolex!

When you get older, you might want a newer watch to balance out your age... my conversion from 5-digit to 6-digit corresponded with my 40th!

Enjoy your 16710 — source an all-black bezel, it is killer for use on straps.

Haha, thanks!

My 16710 originally came with a black bezel, and I actually traded that bezel with my watchmaker for the faded coke bezel that you see in the picture. Easy enough to get the black bezel at MSRP, but the faded bezels are a bit steeper in price so I happily swapped with him!

[PepsiBezel]

The new Pepsi, and its scarcity, is likely contributing to the dramatic rise in price for the 16710s. Pre-126710, the 16710s weren’t that far from 16610s on the used market.

JPeezy — you have to go all-in and get a born Pepsi! ;)

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by exador

It really comes down to aesthetics.

1989 or 2019?

Excellent example.
Some people can’t get over old and accept new.
Some prefer new over old.
Thank God there are so many choices.

Personally, I fall into the new over the old. Something about being original owner but to each their own.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by superstarmar

To each their own. Each reference has its own merit
and place . That said I think I like both but to say the
new Pepsi is the be all end all of Rolex is a personal
statement at best . Pepsi at Retail, I believe you speak
for yourself and not everyone else ...

I don’t speak for everyone?

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by sillo38

Don't forget to mention how your mark I version is going to be the next PN Daytona too.

[igy22]

For me it all comes down to maxi vs non maxi case.
I'm not a fan of the maxi case... proportions are all wrong IMHO.
imagine a 5 digit case with ceramic insert... Man that would be a dream come true

[42itus]

Someone said it best. Montana vs. Brady. Jordan vs. Kobe vs. Lebron. You can make a good argument for whatever you pick. I love my 16710 enough that I don't have a desire for the current one. Someone offered to trade me my 16710 and 116710LN for a 126710 BLRO + a little cash but I declined.

[JParm]

Originally Posted by 42itus

Someone said it best. Montana vs. Brady. Jordan vs. Kobe vs. Lebron. You can make a good argument for whatever you pick. I love my 16710 enough that I don't have a desire for the current one. Someone offered to trade me my 16710 and 116710LN for a 126710 BLRO + a little cash but I declined.

smart move, in my opinion

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

I don’t speak for everyone?

Not me ... I’m into subs more .
I had an oyster Batman and sold it , so...

Now the WG BLRO is another ball game...

[Seibei]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Not to say that these aren't nice pieces, but there's not enough there for me to put the card down and stray away from the current collection (16710, Hulk, DD40).

You, Sir are a man of taste and style. If you ask me, the new pepsi is a fail, but that is of course just my opinion. The more I see the jubilee the less I like it.

Enjoy your watches.

[chloebear]

Nice to be in a position where you are happy where you are. I totally get that. I feel like in 20 years when I walk in to my local AD to see the new 7 digit Explorer II with ceramic bezel and 120 hour power reserve, I will say "it looks great, but I'll stay with my trusty 216570 thank you."

[exador]

Originally Posted by 42itus

Someone offered to trade me my 16710 and 116710LN for a 126710 BLRO + a little cash but I declined.

What if someone offered you a straight swap 16710 > 126710?

Originally Posted by chloebear

I feel like in 20 years when I walk in to my local AD to see the new 7 digit Explorer II with ceramic bezel and 120 hour power reserve, I will say "it looks great, but I'll stay with my trusty 216570 thank you."

What makes you think ADs will have any stock in 20 years' time?

[The Libertine]

Originally Posted by exador

What if someone offered you a straight swap 16710 > 126710?

There’s no way I would do a straight trade of my 16710 for a 126710. I think the16710 looks better, offers more versatility b/c of ability to change bezels, and will age better b/c of its proportions.

[JParm]

Originally Posted by The Libertine

There’s no way I would do a straight trade of my 16710 for a 126710. I think the16710 looks better, offers more versatility b/c of ability to change bezels, and will age better b/c of its proportions.

Same.

[UnicoJG]

I prefer the oyster bracelet and vibrant Pepsi colors on the 5 digit, however, if I was purchasing one today, I’d pick the new version due to technically superior.

[42itus]

Originally Posted by exador

What if someone offered you a straight swap 16710 > 126710?







What makes you think ADs will have any stock in 20 years' time?

I would keep my 16710 for the same reason as others just stated, nice to be able to change the bezel when you get bored. I’m guessing Rolex will never offer that option again.


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[Calatrava r]

Why even discuss a bundle. This market is cooling off.

[MCO1]

The new one is probably better from a technical/evolution standpoint...at least it should be. It is just not enough nicer that I would part with my 16710 to have one and they are too close in appearance to have them both in my world. The BLNR...maybe.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by Seibei

You, Sir are a man of taste and style. If you ask me, the new pepsi is a fail, but that is of course just my opinion. The more I see the jubilee the less I like it.

Enjoy your watches.

Expressing taste or showing style is not saying how unimpressed you are with, or how much of a failure, something is.

[InitialAndPitch]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Not to say that these aren't nice pieces, but there's not enough there for me to put the card down and stray away from the current collection (16710, Hulk, DD40).

Visited the local AD and got to try on both the pepsi on jubilee and the RG GMT. The RG GMT was in the case, the pepsi was not. AD offered the pepsi as a bundle deal with full PM, but I'm not willing to do that.

Wore my 16710 in, and I'd pick that over the new pepsi every day of the week.

The RG GMT is nice, but the style / wearability is too similar to my Hulk, so it reaffirms my choice to go with the DD40 (at the time of purchase, I was between the DD40 and the YG sub and went with the DD40 for this same reason - I wanted something different).

My GMT next to the new pepsi:

I went through a period of time after picking up the new BLRO on Jubilee where I began to second guess the decision.I absolutely loved the new watch but recognised that the ability to swap bezel colours was an attractive proposition. The more I wear the BLRO, the more my choice is reaffirmed. I can still technically mix it up by swapping out for a RubberB or get a conclusive answer around whether an Oyster will indeed wear well long term on a BLRO.

[hnlee]

Cannot compare new vs old. Rolex is rolex with their own story on your hand and new one to pick up.
Both are super in their own way. I love it both.

[PepsiBezel]

Originally Posted by chloebear

Nice to be in a position where you are happy where you are. I totally get that. I feel like in 20 years when I walk in to my local AD to see the new 7 digit Explorer II with ceramic bezel and 120 hour power reserve, I will say "it looks great, but I'll stay with my trusty 216570 thank you."

But, then, why are you going to your AD in 20 years time? For the coffee?

Hopefully the 7-digit EXPII has some sort of not-yet-invented hardened steel for its bezel, like tegimented, so the radial finish doesn’t scratch so much.

[Rashid.bk]

Opinions are good, sometimes a different perspectives can help you learn something.
I prefer the new one.

[rajurama]

Rose gold gmt is a beauty ... Just love it

[JParm]

Originally Posted by rajurama

Rose gold gmt is a beauty ... Just love it

If I was going to choose between full PM sport watches in the Rolex line, this would be the one. I prefer the RG vs. YG look (as you can see from my DD40 choice).

It's a nice enough watch - it just doesn't fit in my collection.