1680 Red Submariner Back From RSC...9 Months Later.

[330ci]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

I see all this and try to make it fit with the advise I got when considering a 1655 with all Rolex parts, but most were service (dial, bezel, crown). Was advised against as value doesn’t rise like original, yet everyone on here is raving about this piece.

While I love this red line sub and the service updated 1655, what does their future hold as collectibles?

Won’t they all have to eventually be updated? I mean, won’t the radium or tritium just fall out of the hands or off the lume plots and cause damage to the movement eventually? Aren’t these watches to be worn?


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I’ve heard of people who collect service dial variants, so if that segment of collecting takes off, they could end up doing well. I imagine they will always fall short of their original counterparts ; although scarcity seems to drive demand in a lot of cases with the watch market so really hard to predict

[emersm]

Originally Posted by Orangeface

Took the time, sporadically over two days, to read this post along with the previous one about your initial purchase. Quite the story and terrific outcome!

My first Rolex, purchased new in 1999, was an A-series “Swiss”-only Submariner. Always enjoyed the uniqueness of that dial. Bought a no-date Sub of the same vintage a few years ago. Most write off the Swiss-only dial as a service dial, as yours is, but they’re still special IMO. And there are Subs that, like mine, are original issue. Haven’t read of an original issue red 1680 Sub Swiss-only dial. And that 1999-2000 era was short for the Swiss Sub dials.

Recently I acquired red 1680 Sub that is in great condition. Had a choice of two - one with lume and dial issues and then there was the one I took home. After reading of your red Sub adventures, I wonder if I should have followed your path to another Swiss dial! Your research and perseverance certainly paid off with a keeper. Congrats!

Thank you!

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

I see all this and try to make it fit with the advise I got when considering a 1655 with all Rolex parts, but most were service (dial, bezel, crown). Was advised against as value doesn’t rise like original, yet everyone on here is raving about this piece.

While I love this red line sub and the service updated 1655, what does their future hold as collectibles?

Won’t they all have to eventually be updated? I mean, won’t the radium or tritium just fall out of the hands or off the lume plots and cause damage to the movement eventually? Aren’t these watches to be worn?


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Yes. These watches are meant to be worn. The dial on my watch was in bad shape and I love that the RSC was able to make it look like new with a new factory dial and service. It looks like it did the day it was purchased. Vintage aesthetic with modern lume. Perfect for me.

[snakeeyes]

This and the father and son thread should be made stckys. What an amazing story with the most satisfying outcome.

[jkkwaz]

Great story!!

[boywithakoi]

Looks amazing! What a journey but it paid off in the end. Didn't even know they still had these dials available!

[emersm]

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

This and the father and son thread should be made stckys. What an amazing story with the most satisfying outcome.

Originally Posted by jkkwaz

Great story!!

Originally Posted by boywithakoi

Looks amazing! What a journey but it paid off in the end. Didn't even know they still had these dials available!

Thank you, gentlemen.

[DaMan1990]

How do you contacted Rolex Geneve? I don't find any email.
Can anyone give me the contact email of Rolex Geneve, please? Thanks a lot in advance

[TimeLord2]

Originally Posted by DaMan1990

How do you contacted Rolex Geneve? I don't find any email.
Can anyone give me the contact email of Rolex Geneve, please? Thanks a lot in advance

Google "Rolex Geneva offices".

[DaMan1990]

I don’t find any email, only telephone number :(

Originally Posted by TimeLord2

Google "Rolex Geneva offices".

[Simon916]

Gorgeous watch - well done for persevering.

[vinny84]

Just wow! Absolutely stunning! Congrats and good to hear Rolex HQ was able to accommodate your service requests.

[Filipão]

Originally Posted by DaMan1990

I don’t find any email, only telephone number :(

They're still on Fax machines

[Bigbertha]

Incredible watch.

[wb55]

Originally Posted by JParm

Vintage watches with patina look great - until you see something like this.

Seeing your watch as it was intended to be, almost brand new looking like the day it was first sold...just wow. Your patience definitely paid off!

Fully agree with this. Feels almost surreal seeing a red sub the way people saw them back when they bought them. Never seen one in "new" before. Beautiful.

[Singhalager]

For some this is amazing but not my cup of tea as it defeats the entire point of collecting a vintage rolex.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by DaMan1990

How do you contacted Rolex Geneve? I don't find any email.

Can anyone give me the contact email of Rolex Geneve, please? Thanks a lot in advance

[email protected]

[DaMan1990]

Originally Posted by saxo3

[email protected]

Where did you find this email? I’m searching for days and days and i didn’t found anything 😂
Thanks

[emersm]

Still enjoying my 1680



Next to my 16610LV that I purchased earlier this year.

[00Seven]

That’s an awesome combo.

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by The Argonaut

Interesting point. What do you think? Say, $12k?

RSC still supply Red Swiss Luminova (with flying saucer lume plots), so they are easy to get.

I sourced a couple of heavily restored 1680 reds in the last 2 years for a couple of pals.... who unlike me, like their vintage cars eg 328, E/type one and a half and DB 4 'uber-restored' (eg new hides, rubbers, door cards, carpets, roofs/linings, brightwear and ancillaries etc etc).

I got them (neither were 4.4 million serv case btw) on service 91350s, new dials, hands, acrylic, crown for £7,500 and £7,750 respectively so quite cheap to source!

[hutch300]

Originally Posted by TuRo

RSC still supply Red Swiss Luminova (with flying saucer lume plots), so they are easy to get.

I sourced a couple of heavily restored 1680 reds in the last 2 years for a couple of pals.... who unlike me, like their vintage cars eg 328, E/type one and a half and DB 4 'uber-restored' (eg new hides, rubbers, door cards, roofs/linings, brightwear and ancillaries etc etc).

I got them (neither were 4.4 million serv case btw) on service 91350s, new dials, hands, acrylic, crown for £7,500 and £7,750 respectively so quite cheap to source!

You were able to get the watch and compete with service parts at those prices? Cool if so!

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by hutch300

You were able to get the watch and compete with service parts at those prices? Cool if so!

Yep .... I am a procurement-bandit mind

ps Stands to reason as imho value is in essence the parts/bits cost. Illustrated by another chap I know having his 5513 run over by a truck about 6-7 yrs ago. He fancied a new 5513 from the ashes of the incident, so had RCS build him one. A 4.4 case plus all the new bits cost him I seem to recall £4,500 I'll see if I can find the invoice. At time a brand new 114060 was bit more than £5k btw. We were chatting a few week on what it's worth now...we concurred about £6-7k perhaps now.

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by emersm

Still enjoying my 1680



Next to my 16610LV that I purchased earlier this year.

I think if I had the red dial, I’d never take it off.

Kat


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