Bob's Watches

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I think he distances himself from the name on this thread while selling here.

Wonder why?

[mrblue]

So what? Bob's is a legitimate business. If you don't like the prices or what they offer you then don't do business with them. To suggest that a business named Bob's owned by a guy not named Bob is some how deceptive is ridiculous.

[imperio]

Nobody was suggesting that.

Originally Posted by mrblue

So what? Bob's is a legitimate business. If you don't like the prices or what they offer you then don't do business with them. To suggest that a business named Bob's owned by a guy not named Bob is some how deceptive is ridiculous.

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by mrblue

So what? Bob's is a legitimate business. If you don't like the prices or what they offer you then don't do business with them. To suggest that a business named Bob's owned by a guy not named Bob is some how deceptive is ridiculous.

How about reading ALL the posts before commenting

[77T]

Originally Posted by mrblue

So what? Bob's is a legitimate business. If you don't like the prices or what they offer you then don't do business with them. To suggest that a business named Bob's owned by a guy not named Bob is some how deceptive is ridiculous.

Nobody suggested that.

The thread has some detours you’ll see upon reviewing the post that started this branch


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[ReturningSon]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Why do people pull that crap? What a loser

It seems people love the opportunity to roast someone for no real apparent reason.

But, if people like you want me to draw it in crayon, I can always re-write my original statement to make it a bit easier to follow...

Yes, I know his name is not Bob. But Paul 'is' indeed Bob as far as I am concerned considering he is the face of business.

I like how people take my comment as a shill one for the business despite the fact that I clearly and explicitly state that I have never bought from him and, in fact, my statement was simply describing the man himself, not his business or practices.

People need to exercise restraint before taking a simple comment and blowing it way out of proportion.

[erhein]

Originally Posted by ReturningSon

People need to exercise restraint before taking a simple comment and blowing it way out of proportion.

What a novel idea!

[DoDe]

Originally Posted by ReturningSon

I know his name is not Bob. But Paul 'is' indeed Bob

I thought Paul was Paul. But you are saying he is not. Paul is Bob. I am confused.

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by DoDe

I thought Paul was Paul. But you are saying he is not. Paul is Bob. I am confused.

+1

[edweather]

Who's on first.....I don't know.....third base.

[05carbondrz]

Originally Posted by DoDe

I thought Paul was Paul. But you are saying he is not. Paul is Bob. I am confused.

Me too,The Man Has One Name and it’s Paul....WTF He named His Business Bob’s Watches is beyond me.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

Me too,The Man Has One Name and it’s Paul....WTF He named His Business Bob’s Watches is beyond me.

IIRC, Paul bought Bob’s and kept the name.

[05carbondrz]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

IIRC, Paul bought Bob’s and kept the name.

Ahhh,Thanks for the insight.

[CaveDweller]

I think we need to see a birth certificate ....

[Star Ferry]

I've heard mixed reviews of Bob's. But the fact that the owner's name is Paul is irrelevant. This is like buying a Big Mac and complaining that it wasn't sold by Ronald McDonald.

[GGGMT]

I’ve bought several watches from bobs. They’re a great seller, offer a warranty that they stand by, and trustworthy, but do a huge volume pretty much at full retail.


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[schaumburgla]

Personally I have purchased 3 nice vintage Rolex from Bob's from 2013-2015.
The prices were very reasonable at that time & no issues with the watches which were a 5513, a 5512 & a 1016. All were very nice correct watches. I paid by wire each time & all were shipped same day funds cleared for overnight delivery.
I believe the pricing structure especially on vintage Rolex has changed drastically from what I have observed so I really no longer check in on the site. But if I did find something I would not hesitate too purchase again. I do not personally know anyone there & do not recall who I specifically dealt with.

Attached is a Pic of the 6 Mill. series 1016 I purchased from them.

Justin

[digitalcrocodile]

Originally Posted by schaumburgla

Personally I have purchased 3 nice vintage Rolex from Bob's from 2013-2015.
The prices were very reasonable at that time & no issues with the watches which were a 5513, a 5512 & a 1016. All were very nice correct watches. I paid by wire each time & all were shipped same day funds cleared for overnight delivery.
I believe the pricing structure especially on vintage Rolex has changed drastically from what I have observed so I really no longer check in on the site. But if I did find something I would not hesitate too purchase again. I do not personally know anyone there & do not recall who I specifically dealt with.

Attached is a Pic of the 6 Mill. series 1016 I purchased from them.

Justin

That's a real beauty!

[wesdaniel]

Originally Posted by CaveDweller

I think we need to see a birth certificate ....

Just so long as he wasn't born in Hawaii and the birth certificate isn't redacted.

[GSDLover]

Originally Posted by wesdaniel

Just so long as he wasn't born in Hawaii and the birth certificate isn't redacted.

Uh oh...

[Metal]

I still have the watch 'Bob' lowballed me on (pictured earlier in this thread #172) I've put it on eBay a few times and so far the highest offer I've had was $3300, a full $1300 over 'Bobs' offer, still a bit low IMHO but, it is what it is.

[smym18]

Originally Posted by Metal

I still have the watch 'Bob' lowballed me on (pictured earlier in this thread #172) I've put it on eBay a few times and so far the highest offer I've had was $3300, a full $1300 over 'Bobs' offer, still a bit low IMHO but, it is what it is.

If you sell things at market value, you obviously have to buy below, which a lot of people don't seem to understand.

Say he pays you exactly what you're asking for, he obviously then marks it up. Now the narrative becomes "Bob's is a ripoff."

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by smym18

If you sell things at market value, you obviously have to buy below, which a lot of people don't seem to understand.



Say he pays you exactly what you're asking for, he obviously then marks it up. Now the narrative becomes "Bob's is a ripoff."

That was absolutely not the initial intention of this thread.

The buy at wholesale and sell at retail is basic business sense. And I think everyone here understands that. The original intent of the thread was that you send multiple high res photos of the watch and all of the included links and accessories to a place that buys watches for a living. Including telling them when the watch was last serviced.

They make you an offer based on that.

You send them exactly what you have described and they have seen.

They lower their offer by 30%+ once they receive it saying it has damage it does not have and needs a service that they should have taken into account in their offer when “we have to service every piece to resell”.

Then they keep your watch for 2 weeks and go dark when you ask to send it back.

Was it out of the ordinary for them to do this???? Maybe. But from the responses it doesn’t sound like it.

Capitalism and business are one thing. Being dishonest and bait and switch is another.

Buy all you want from them. The watches are genuine and you know what you are getting. But selling to them is not high in my list of things to ever do again.


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[smym18]

Originally Posted by bdex75

That was absolutely not the initial intention of this thread.

The buy at wholesale and sell at retail is basic business sense. And I think everyone here understands that. The original intent of the thread was that you send multiple high res photos of the watch and all of the included links and accessories to a place that buys watches for a living. Including telling them when the watch was last serviced.

I know it wasn't your intention, I just feel like people forget when you are selling a watch the buyer needs to profit as well, however big or small that margin may be. Didn't mean for it to come off as a comment toward you or anyone specific really. I do understand your original frustration 2.5 years ago.

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by smym18

I know it wasn't your intention, I just feel like people forget when you are selling a watch the buyer needs to profit as well, however big or small that margin may be. Didn't mean for it to come off as a comment toward you or anyone specific really. I do understand your original frustration 2.5 years ago.

This thread just lost its way a while back.

I agree fully that the only way business works is in margin and profit and a some here forget that.

Most of our friends are small business owners. I stood earlier this week in one of their stores (retail kids clothes, gifts etc) where someone was looking at items. Scanning them on their phone inside of the amazon app. And adding them to their cart. After her kid tried them on and threw them on the floor. People are incredible. He goes out of his way to only try and carry brands you cannot find online and that done sell direct. Because now your suppliers will whore you out by going direct with big discounts.

Not going to get into the AD/not AD debate but it is somewhat similar.


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[digitalcrocodile]

Originally Posted by bdex75

This thread just lost its way a while back.

I agree fully that the only way business works is in margin and profit and a some here forget that.

Most of our friends are small business owners. I stood earlier this week in one of their stores (retail kids clothes, gifts etc) where someone was looking at items. Scanning them on their phone inside of the amazon app. And adding them to their cart. After her kid tried them on and threw them on the floor. People are incredible. He goes out of his way to only try and carry brands you cannot find online and that done sell direct. Because now your suppliers will whore you out by going direct with big discounts.

Not going to get into the AD/not AD debate but it is somewhat similar.


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I think you nailed it.

[CorradoBrit]

Its the bait and switch aspect that concerns me with Bob's (Pauls) business model. How many would have sent their watches in if they were quoted the realistic offer? Its disingenuous to be dinged on the offer with the excuse that the watch needs work to get it to retail resale condition? The offer should reflect a certain amount of tarting up and high rez pics will tell an educated eye how much is needed.
Would like to know how many sellers actually got an offer, say within 5% of the quote, when the watch was sent in.

[Star Ferry]

I have heard many stories of the Bob's bait-and-switch. Would Takuya knock down an offer by 30% for small cosmetic issues that were visible in the original photos? No, he wouldn't. And if he had a real issue, he'd return the watch promptly.

They may not be breaking the law, but they don't deserve a stellar reputation either.

[digitalcrocodile]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Its the bait and switch aspect that concerns me with Bob's (Pauls) business model. How many would have sent their watches in if they were quoted the realistic offer? Its disingenuous to be dinged on the offer with the excuse that the watch needs work to get it to retail resale condition? The offer should reflect a certain amount of tarting up and high rez pics will tell an educated eye how much is needed.
Would like to know how many sellers actually got an offer, say within 5% of the quote, when the watch was sent in.

It's the "itch to sell" that drives the offering price down. Bob (excuse me, Paul), like all pawn shop owners, knows that motivated sellers are interested in a quick transaction that puts cash in their pockets. But I get your point. Perhaps changing the name to "Bob's Rolex Pawn Shop" would solve the problem.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by digitalcrocodile

It's the "itch to sell" that drives the offering price down. Bob (excuse me, Paul), like all pawn shop owners, knows that motivated sellers are interested in a quick transaction that puts cash in their pockets. But I get your point. Perhaps changing the name to "Bob's Rolex Pawn Shop" would solve the problem.

It's not a pawn shop. He's not loaning money at exorbitant interest rates with your watch as collateral.

They are betting that once you've shipped them your watch that you'll take their low ball offer.