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Old 5 May 2023, 06:25 AM   #1
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Anyone using straps from delugs on the 3rd gen overseas? I wonder how good of the quality especially on the buckle that connects to the spring bar (should say just the bar between the lugs).
I have a couple of the delugs overseas straps; I haven't been particularly impressed with them. the execution on the little connector tab / switch isn't the greatest. it feels a bit flimsy and it's sharp-feeling under your fingernail when you engage it. The one from the rubber vagenari straps is far superior, and closer to oem. Go figure... as the vagenari website is pretty sketchy (compared to delugs), to begin with.

With respect to the other aspects of the delugs OS straps (i have 4 of them)... very hit or miss. I've had a blue saffiano one where the leather was peeling off from where the strap connects to the watch. And I used the strap literally once, before I noticed this beginning to happen. I contacted delugs about it, and they weren't particularly helpful with addressing the problem (suggested I use some glue..). When I pushed back on this (fear of discoloration.. considering it was a $275 strap), they agreed to send a replacement. but I'm assuming the replacement came from a "seconds" bin, as the strap taper was comically asymmetrical. I sent pics to them, and they basically were like "well..... the straps are handmade, so you can't expect the cut to be perfect." I'll dig up a pic to share at some point.

Anyway, that was the last strap I've bought from them -- as they raised prices shortly thereafter, and I honestly felt that the quality control degraded vs when they were a younger / smaller company. I still have a lot of their other non-VC straps, and I've been happy with those. But honestly, the pricing difference isn't enormous between an OEM VC gator strap and a delugs custom one. Knowing what I know now, I would simply go for OEM.
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Old 5 May 2023, 10:54 AM   #2
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I have a couple of the delugs overseas straps; I haven't been particularly impressed with them. the execution on the little connector tab / switch isn't the greatest. it feels a bit flimsy and it's sharp-feeling under your fingernail when you engage it. The one from the rubber vagenari straps is far superior, and closer to oem. Go figure... as the vagenari website is pretty sketchy (compared to delugs), to begin with.

With respect to the other aspects of the delugs OS straps (i have 4 of them)... very hit or miss. I've had a blue saffiano one where the leather was peeling off from where the strap connects to the watch. And I used the strap literally once, before I noticed this beginning to happen. I contacted delugs about it, and they weren't particularly helpful with addressing the problem (suggested I use some glue..). When I pushed back on this (fear of discoloration.. considering it was a $275 strap), they agreed to send a replacement. but I'm assuming the replacement came from a "seconds" bin, as the strap taper was comically asymmetrical. I sent pics to them, and they basically were like "well..... the straps are handmade, so you can't expect the cut to be perfect." I'll dig up a pic to share at some point.

Anyway, that was the last strap I've bought from them -- as they raised prices shortly thereafter, and I honestly felt that the quality control degraded vs when they were a younger / smaller company. I still have a lot of their other non-VC straps, and I've been happy with those. But honestly, the pricing difference isn't enormous between an OEM VC gator strap and a delugs custom one. Knowing what I know now, I would simply go for OEM.
That's very unfortunate to hear. I have a couple of their curved lugs straps and I am pretty happy with the quality. They are doing a sale so I wonder if I should try out their overseas straps. I think some are just 150 and seems to be a good deal - if they work and last at least 50-100 wears.
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Old 6 May 2023, 06:03 AM   #3
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That's very unfortunate to hear. I have a couple of their curved lugs straps and I am pretty happy with the quality. They are doing a sale so I wonder if I should try out their overseas straps. I think some are just 150 and seems to be a good deal - if they work and last at least 50-100 wears.
Yeah, I was generally happy(ier) with their non-overseas straps. The VC ones that are $150 (seems like a low price?..) might be the overstocked ones? or maybe they're running a promotion, as you say.

When the delugs vc straps first came out, they were all "custom order," and were correspondingly more expensive ($275). Which was when I had put my orders in.

You can see the "asymmetric" one that they sent me in the pic below.

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Old 5 May 2023, 01:30 PM   #4
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I have a couple of the delugs overseas straps; I haven't been particularly impressed with them. the execution on the little connector tab / switch isn't the greatest. it feels a bit flimsy and it's sharp-feeling under your fingernail when you engage it. The one from the rubber vagenari straps is far superior, and closer to oem. Go figure... as the vagenari website is pretty sketchy (compared to delugs), to begin with.

With respect to the other aspects of the delugs OS straps (i have 4 of them)... very hit or miss. I've had a blue saffiano one where the leather was peeling off from where the strap connects to the watch. And I used the strap literally once, before I noticed this beginning to happen. I contacted delugs about it, and they weren't particularly helpful with addressing the problem (suggested I use some glue..). When I pushed back on this (fear of discoloration.. considering it was a $275 strap), they agreed to send a replacement. but I'm assuming the replacement came from a "seconds" bin, as the strap taper was comically asymmetrical. I sent pics to them, and they basically were like "well..... the straps are handmade, so you can't expect the cut to be perfect." I'll dig up a pic to share at some point.

Anyway, that was the last strap I've bought from them -- as they raised prices shortly thereafter, and I honestly felt that the quality control degraded vs when they were a younger / smaller company. I still have a lot of their other non-VC straps, and I've been happy with those. But honestly, the pricing difference isn't enormous between an OEM VC gator strap and a delugs custom one. Knowing what I know now, I would simply go for OEM.
Going to concur with this general sentiment. I ordered 1 from delugs and the mechanism leaves a lot to be desired IMO. On mine it is very difficult to get it to "snap" into place...aka have the tab go over the fixed bar .....you have to sit there and push very hard non stop until it finally went. I actually thought it was defective so I contacted them and their solution is to keep shoving and it'll loosen up.....well after a lot of force on both sides it finally went in.....and I noticed on one end the clearance isn't great so it rubs the inside between the strap and watch.....not ideal but not a deal killer either....and may have happened with VC's bracelet (which I don't use since I have a small wrist)....but annoying. The straps from Vagenari fits great and the mechanism snaps like OEM. Also now comes with the little twist hardware on the strap so it's plug and play when you switch colors on the stock deployant. Very happy with my straps from Vagenari and don't think I'll order anymore Oversea stuff from delugs anymore.....I've been happy with their other straps though for my other watches.
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Old 6 May 2023, 08:44 AM   #5
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Going to concur with this general sentiment. I ordered 1 from delugs and the mechanism leaves a lot to be desired IMO. On mine it is very difficult to get it to "snap" into place...aka have the tab go over the fixed bar .....you have to sit there and push very hard non stop until it finally went. I actually thought it was defective so I contacted them and their solution is to keep shoving and it'll loosen up.....well after a lot of force on both sides it finally went in.....and I noticed on one end the clearance isn't great so it rubs the inside between the strap and watch.....not ideal but not a deal killer either....and may have happened with VC's bracelet (which I don't use since I have a small wrist)....but annoying. The straps from Vagenari fits great and the mechanism snaps like OEM. Also now comes with the little twist hardware on the strap so it's plug and play when you switch colors on the stock deployant. Very happy with my straps from Vagenari and don't think I'll order anymore Oversea stuff from delugs anymore.....I've been happy with their other straps though for my other watches.
Does the Vagenari fits better on your wrist than the OEM rubber? The OEM rubber is stiff at the lug which is one of the “benefits” of a Delugs straps that supposed to fit better for smaller wrists. I read that the Vagenari is also less stiff then the OEM and curious if you can share your experience on those. Any pics would be great.
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Old 6 May 2023, 10:21 AM   #6
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Does the Vagenari fits better on your wrist than the OEM rubber? The OEM rubber is stiff at the lug which is one of the “benefits” of a Delugs straps that supposed to fit better for smaller wrists. I read that the Vagenari is also less stiff then the OEM and curious if you can share your experience on those. Any pics would be great.
The vagenari fits very similarly to oem. in some sense, it almost feels more pliable. it doesn't have the metal fins embedded in the rubber at the connecting end (to the watch-head) of the strap, which the oem has. that might help with the taper, or the perception of better pliability. My wrist is probably average sized, so I never had any issues with the oem fitment, for what it's worth. So I'd have no qualms buying from vagenari, if the color you want is not readily available via your boutique.

I still think it's a silly game that VC plays, "limiting" the supply of certain colors. I guess it follows, in using the same approach for their watch dials (e.g. blue), but that's a little more understandable, vs a rubber strap.
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Old 6 May 2023, 10:32 AM   #7
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Does the Vagenari fits better on your wrist than the OEM rubber? The OEM rubber is stiff at the lug which is one of the “benefits” of a Delugs straps that supposed to fit better for smaller wrists. I read that the Vagenari is also less stiff then the OEM and curious if you can share your experience on those. Any pics would be great.
I think the vagernari definitely is more pliable as the plastic goes. If you notice also it's slightly shorter than the oem. Does hug the wrist better on my circa 6.625 inch wrist every so slightly on the same hole (as oem) with the deployant. Not enough difference to rebuy the stock color. The delugs strap I got tapers down even more and fits the best/snug. But I'd definitely stick with vagernari from now unless you insist on materials outside of rubber.
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Old 5 May 2023, 08:48 PM   #8
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I have bought both and Gen and 3rd generation from vagenari. I have been very happy with them.
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Is anyone planning on picking up the 34.5mm Overseas?
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Old 8 May 2023, 11:59 AM   #11
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On the price increases, does anyone know if the Overseas blue dial is affected? Trying to figure out whether it's worth buying on grey now or waiting for an allocation that may be a few more months away.
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On the price increases, does anyone know if the Overseas blue dial is affected? Trying to figure out whether it's worth buying on grey now or waiting for an allocation that may be a few more months away.
I am not sure if the %. of increase will be consistent globally but here in Hong Kong it will go up just over 10% from what I have been told, effective in June. I am also on the wait list for the blue dial Overseas but realistically know that I will not get one before the price increase. I am not in a rush so will wait it out.
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Old 8 May 2023, 11:42 PM   #13
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On the price increases, does anyone know if the Overseas blue dial is affected? Trying to figure out whether it's worth buying on grey now or waiting for an allocation that may be a few more months away.
I’ve been mulling over a dual time, and have been advised of an increase around the 15-20% region across all colours.
I would expect this to be the case with the 3-handers as well.
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Old 8 May 2023, 07:17 PM   #15
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Grey now is under list. May pay to buy
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Grey now is under list. May pay to buy
Thanks for all the data points everyone. I'm not in a rush to buy, but with grey price at or close to MSRP+tax as shafran noted, I could save a few thousand dollars by buying grey now. Decisions, decisions.
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I’ve been told 20% increase for my Dual Time Overseas (Steel).
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I’ve been told 20% increase for my Dual Time Overseas (Steel).

If the 3 hander goes from $22.5k to $27k I think I’m out. That’s excessive.


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Prices here are going from the equivalent of $US24k to $US28k June first. I picked up my black dial yesterday and the boutique staff confirmed it again. All our local prices must include the federal 10% GST we pay, none of this plus taxes stuff.
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Prices here are going from the equivalent of $US24k to $US28k June first. I picked up my black dial yesterday and the boutique staff confirmed it again. All our local prices must include the federal 10% GST we pay, none of this plus taxes stuff.
June 1st prices are in - 4500V is showing $23,000 to $27,000 USD$

7500V went from $28,000 to $34,000 USD$

(approx $, due to exchange rate calculations)

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I'm looking at an Overseas 7900v blue dial on the grey market which appears to be an ok deal. The only thing is the watch is reasonably scratched up.

Does anyone have any experience sending off to Vacheron for a polish? Quality of the work, cost turn around time etc? I'm usually a no polish guy.

I'm unsure if it's worth the hassle at this point, but the price rise looming in the background has me considering it.

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I'm looking at an Overseas 7900v blue dial on the grey market which appears to be an ok deal. The only thing is the watch is reasonably scratched up.

Does anyone have any experience sending off to Vacheron for a polish? Quality of the work, cost turn around time etc? I'm usually a no polish guy.

I'm unsure if it's worth the hassle at this point, but the price rise looming in the background has me considering it.

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Vacheron offer an estimate to owners on the Hour Club site, its $495 Australian $ for case & bracelet polishing for my 7900V

They note on their website polishing via their service centre generally takes 2 weeks

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Vacheron offer an estimate to owners on the Hour Club site, its $495 Australian $ for case & bracelet polishing for my 7900V

They note on their website polishing via their service centre generally takes 2 weeks

https://www.vacheron-constantin.com/...our-watch.html
Legend. Thanks for that. Much quicker turn around than I was anticipating.

Has anyone actually done the 'Shining' polish on their Overseas? Still hesitant about rounding edges.
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Legend. Thanks for that. Much quicker turn around than I was anticipating.

Has anyone actually done the 'Shining' polish on their Overseas? Still hesitant about rounding edges.
My Dad did with the previous gen Overseas and it came back looking brand new. This was at the London boutique so can’t speak for other locations.
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First sport watch from Vacheron Boutique, the Overseas Chrono Panda, alongside with the 5711 from a friend. Put in a request to see a few weeks ago, got the call and not hesitate and pulled the trigger. I got rather small wrist but wear bigger watch often, so this feels ok.

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First sport watch from Vacheron Boutique, the Overseas Chrono Panda, alongside with the 5711 from a friend. Put in a request to see a few weeks ago, got the call and not hesitate and pulled the trigger. I got rather small wrist but wear bigger watch often, so this feels ok.

hope you didn't scratch your watch!
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Hoping to ask the VC community to confirm the 42.5mm case size on the 5500v? I saw a video online stating he was unable to find a measurement less than 44mm, which would be a bit much for my liking.

Thanks in advance for dusting off your calipers!
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