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Old 29 December 2021, 02:09 PM   #481
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There’s a certification of calibration from time lab in this add
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Old 29 December 2021, 02:44 PM   #482
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i just wrote to Dave from Fratello and Pierre from Czapek asking to get the new clasp on the bracelet (vs the old one) and timelab certificate. will let yo know what they answer.
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Old 29 December 2021, 03:35 PM   #483
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I think the Drake isn’t Chronometre certified, the Adelie had it printed on the dial
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Old 29 December 2021, 08:39 PM   #484
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I think the Drake isn’t Chronometre certified, the Adelie had it printed on the dial

That’s correct. You had to special request for the Drake to be a certified chronometer.


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Old 30 December 2021, 12:46 AM   #485
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Looking at Chrono doesn’t seem there is a ton of demand for these watches. There’s 2 Antarctiques with essentially a 5k markup and they’ve been for sale for ever. You’d think if there’s a 6 month to a year wait someone would have snapped them up.
I don’t think you can or should buy any Indie based on where you think the demand will go. If that is your primary (or even secondary) concern, it is probably more prudent to stick to one of the big companies (which nowadays probably means Omega or VC with a slight wait).

Will Czapek go to the moon? Maybe - after all they’re making stellar watches and increasing in awareness - but probably not. Do you like the watches enough that it isn’t an issue? Great. No? No shame in that either.
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Old 30 December 2021, 02:09 AM   #486
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This is a fair statement, I may be over analyzing Czapek since I got my watch. I didn’t buy for resale since I’ve never sold a watch in 15 years, I was just curious. I am a bit disappointed in the chronometre certification being an extra requirement since at this price point for a stainless watch that was one of their selling points. I think it’s fair my expectations are high for a watch batting at Royal Oak, Overseas and Nautilus MSRP. The service and people at Czapek are second to none that’s for certain. FPJ starting price is double but the watch and movement is all PM.
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Old 30 December 2021, 02:13 AM   #487
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Imho get what YOU love and that resonates with you. Time is the most precious commodity you have.

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TRF reeeeally needs a different board for investors, so enthusiasts can freely discuss passion, craftsmanship, the beauty of movement, build quality... and hopefully, we'll eventually get to know more about the people who created these timepieces.

With some big brands, you have little idea of the actual people behind the overall project. With modern independents, we can learn more about the passionate people, and in not just who, but also in how they create these masterpieces in horology. Czapek is doing an excellent job and would love to see more brands follow suit.

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Old 30 December 2021, 02:30 AM   #488
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Im definitely not an investor as I said I’ve never sold a watch. I feel I’m being objective about a new watch and brand. I’ve described that I appreciate the collaborations and what went into the watch. I appreciate the design etc but as a watch forum I am describing what I feel after getting a watch and comparing to other watches in the same price category. I know the parts for my Ferrari cost more than a VW because the R&D and manufacturing costs are spread over fewer pieces. I love the look of my Czapek, the people behind it.. I’ve mentioned again and again that the service was phenomenal. I am disappointed in the chronometer certification being extra now when that was a major advertising point for them. Seems some people knew this was the case so maybe it’s my fault for not seeing it.
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Old 30 December 2021, 02:33 AM   #489
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Ps none of my posts were about making money re-selling they were about demand. There are a few that are in space with asking prices so I quoted the few that are almost msrp not selling
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Old 30 December 2021, 03:53 AM   #490
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Wonderfully said szabo, thanks for your posts.

Ah yes, I fondly recall those lovely yellow parts boxes with black Prancing Horse.
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Old 30 December 2021, 04:08 AM   #491
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For me it's also a huge letdown. Had I known that ... I would not order again with the knowledge of the missing certification..
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Old 31 December 2021, 12:16 PM   #492
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Anyone heard any details about the upcoming 38mm Antarctique?
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Old 31 December 2021, 09:44 PM   #493
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To all the Antarctique owners: knowing what you know now, would you order this watch again?


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Old 1 January 2022, 12:09 AM   #494
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I am getting the Green one end of Jan. Will tell you then. But in general, yes, i beleive in Czapek for now. I may end up completely wrong…


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Old 1 January 2022, 12:30 AM   #495
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Agreed, we shall see when the (Monochrome) timepiece arrives, and over time in durability. Personally have faith as their customer service is said to be great! One thing i truly enjoy is Czapek's modern transparency, and in showcasing those who have dedicated their time and talent to assist in making these truly fine and rare truly terrific timepieces.

Imho 2022 is the year when true independents, and those who do the actual effort, get the recognition they have long deserved earned.
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Old 1 January 2022, 02:31 AM   #496
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Absolutely. I have only a small collection as it is, but I could be happy with just my Antarctique as a daily wear piece and my FPJ CS when the occasion calls for something a bit more dressed up.

I've got a white dial Passage de Drake with red tipped second hand. In addition to the adjustable clasp, I'd like to get the red leather strap in 2022.
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Old 1 January 2022, 02:40 AM   #497
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Honestly after spending some more time with the watch it definitely is a beautiful movement and the fact it’s made in house by a new company is an achievement in its own right. Service was second to none from both Czapek and Fratello not a complaint there whatsoever. They collaborated with some of the best in the game for their components. It’s mental gymnastics really. It’s twice the price of a DJ from Rolex but also much rarer and has a more “special” movement in it. I’m sure if it was a Patek or AP I’d have more latitude which isn’t fair. I think objectively it’s worth it’s price, you’re not paying the profit of the middleman. Time will tell about reliability and durability
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Old 1 January 2022, 04:06 AM   #499
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Bruno, are you shareholder in Czapek?
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Old 1 January 2022, 05:59 AM   #500
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Yesterday I received my new bracelet and micro adjustment clasp from Czapek. I had my bracelet brushed and it did not come out as expected so Czapek sent me a new brushed one.
As a side note, we hear about service from every company but you don’t know what it means until you need it. Czapek has gone above and beyond for me because they cared about my experience. I’d say they have exceeded every expectation in spades.

Now to the clasp.

This is the back of the original


On the new


The top of the new. See the little pushers on each side. Each side opens individually


around 3 mm per side


So when both sides are opened it looks like this
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Old 1 January 2022, 06:14 AM   #501
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Wow that is super awesome
Now we need invisible fixation of links a la Lange or IWC , and we have a winner there.
Chapeau, Czapek (in polish = czapek = hat ;) )
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First, WOW and that's great to hear! I did not know BOTH sides could be extended.

Daaaaaamn that's sweeeeeet.

The wait / struggle is real............
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Old 1 January 2022, 10:32 AM   #503
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Yes
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Old 2 January 2022, 10:18 AM   #504
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I think I would buy it again. The more you wear it the more you like it in my experience. I catch myself looking at the dial and the case. My least favourite part is the bracelet but it still looks decent and doesn’t pinch skin or pull hair
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Old 3 January 2022, 06:29 AM   #505
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Crikey, has anyone seen the price of the rattrapante up for sale on c24? I know prices on that platform are to be taken with a pinch of salt, but blimey!

https://chrono24.app/all/czapekcie-a...GB&SETCURR=GBP


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Crikey, has anyone seen the price of the rattrapante up for sale on c24? I know prices on that platform are to be taken with a pinch of salt, but blimey!

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Old 7 January 2022, 02:36 PM   #507
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got an email last night that i should be receiving the green dial antarctique in 2 weeks... will share live pictures then.
Martin, it seems, because of the delay of the watch, i am getting the new micro clasp on the bracelet.

anyone else guys got the green version and has any feedback?

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Old 8 January 2022, 04:40 AM   #508
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Thats awesome! My Czapek is my new daily LOL the more I wear it the more I love it
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Old 8 January 2022, 04:43 AM   #509
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The Czapek collection is coming along nicely!
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Old 8 January 2022, 06:18 AM   #510
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The Czapek collection is coming along nicely!
Awesome collection.

What are your thoughts on the Rattrapante? How does it feel living with it since you got it.

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