Now 35k - OP 41 Turquoise Tiffany

[Benzsiam]

Thanks to Patek that came out with new 5711 Tiffany blue.

Rolex and Patek both are the winners.

[cbalster]

Doxa makes a Tiffany Submariner for $990. Everyone go buy it before it's discontinued, and list it on C24 for $10k. I got one, but I'm not selling at any price.

https://www.watchesofswitzerland.com....10/p/18800023

[nokaoi1]

Originally Posted by cbalster

Doxa makes a Tiffany Submariner for $990. Everyone go buy it before it's discontinued, and list it on C24 for $10k. I got one, but I'm not selling at any price.

https://www.watchesofswitzerland.com....10/p/18800023

Wtf is a doxa


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[nokaoi1]

Picked up a new roll for mine




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[cbalster]

Originally Posted by nokaoi1

Wtf is a doxa


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Doxa independent watch brand with a very rich history, particularly in dive watches. They worked with Rolex to develop to HEV in the Sea-Dweller. They were real tool watches with colorful dials but the history was muddled by the quartz crisis. They're pretty cool but you know, Rolex is Rolex and stands alone.

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by nokaoi1

Wtf is a doxa

Oh just one of the most important dive watch brands of the 1960's, and used by Jacques Cousteau amongst others. In fact Doxa predated the SD with the helium escape valve in 1969. They were founded in 1889 and were in continuous operation until 1980, before being revived in 1997.

Quite an important brand if you have a wider interest in horology.

[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by nokaoi1

Picked up a new roll for mine




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Excellent HNY!

[Goin2drt]

Originally Posted by Driver8

Oh just one of the most important dive watch brands of the 1960's, and used by Jacques Cousteau amongst others. In fact Doxa predated the SD with the helium escape valve in 1969. They were founded in 1889 and were in continuous operation until 1980, before being revived in 1997.

Quite an important brand if you have a wider interest in horology.

Yep and I own a Mission 31. I actually have number 31 that was worn on the mission by Fabien and then sent to me. They took down a few on the mission. Total of 331 made.

[dpt.calvin]

Originally Posted by nokaoi1

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Who makes that? Love it!

[nokaoi1]

Originally Posted by dpt.calvin

Who makes that? Love it!

the watch stand!

https://thewatchstand.com/products/t...d2439995&_ss=r

unbelievable quality!

[Rrpdc]

Originally Posted by Screwly

Eric said he would offer you 18k

https://youtu.be/o52ImKiIMhI

I saw that too. Eric would be a fool not to buy up every op 41 turquoise he could in low 20’s. All bs sarcasm I assume for his YouTube channel.

[Madman37]

Originally Posted by cbalster

Doxa independent watch brand with a very rich history, particularly in dive watches. They worked with Rolex to develop to HEV in the Sea-Dweller. They were real tool watches with colorful dials but the history was muddled by the quartz crisis. They're pretty cool but you know, Rolex is Rolex and stands alone.

Wow. Unfortunately they people posting the Aqua blue Rolex don’t care about history of brands etc just how fast their watch is going up and that it matches their socks.

[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by Madman37

Wow. Unfortunately they people posting the Aqua blue Rolex don’t care about history of brands etc just how fast their watch is going up and that it matches their socks.

The percentage growth surpasses my stock portfolio, my friend.

[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by Madman37

Wow. Unfortunately they people posting the Aqua blue Rolex don’t care about history of brands etc just how fast their watch is going up and that it matches their socks.

Right. More investment threads. Passion for watches is secondary for some.


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[Tensai]

Perhaps the moderators would consider making a whole new "Rolex Investment Discussion" area for these topics? Just accept the fact they exist, but put them somewhere else please. Cheers and happy 2022.

[ThePalletFork]

Wow unbelievable

[ev8296]

It would be really nice if the Dial was actually signed by Tiffany.
Over price wannabe Tiffany.

[rambo99]

Originally Posted by ev8296

It would be really nice if the Dial was actually signed by Tiffany.
Over price wannabe Tiffany.

it would be a different story then, easily over 100k.

[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by rambo99

it would be a different story then, easily over 100k.

Yeah I've thought about this... Definitely would be in 6 figures... Guess we will never know

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

Right. More investment threads. Passion for watches is secondary for some.


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I don’t really see how it can be ignored.

I’ve been collecting watches for 20+ years and observed my father collect my entire life. While I’ve never seen secondary market prices drop I’ve also never seen a time like this.

I got more serious about buying about 10-15 years ago. I’ve been buying from both trusted sellers and ADs since 2014. I have over $100k of purchases with one of my local ADs from the past couple years.

I only mention it to tell you I rarely get the call for anything. I can’t get on a list for a Daytona. I called every AD I worked with the day these OPs were released, I wanted a 36 for my wife and 41 for me. Even gave multiple color options.

So where does that leave me? It leaves me making potentially bad financial decisions because my passion for this hobby is that strong.

On this forum you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t. If I say I don’t care about the premium and just want a specific watch for the passion, I’m said to be an idiot, crazy, a fool soon to be parted with his money.

So after you hear all these so called experts and “passionate” enthusiasts tell you how stupid you are for paying a premium, you tend to keep a close eye on the market to see how stupid you were for spending that extra money. Turns out I’ve literally never bought a watch that dropped in value! Who knew!?

Point being you don’t need to be primarily following the market here cause you see these watches as investments. Some of us follow it because our passion for these watches truly out weighs what is (supposedly) illogical decisions and spending habits lol.

Also, we all have our bucket list watches right? Unless you are a true VIP at your ADs, it’s likely you have been priced out of EVER owning some of these watches. Last year I decided to bite the bullet on many of mine, especially after thinking I’d own a 5711 one day and seeing it sore over $100k. YES, I did research, looked at the market trends and history. Read a little about anniversary years. And YES admittedly approached some of these purchases as if they were investments, because I’m trying to ride the balance between true passion for this hobby and not throwing away money for no reason.

This is not ever where I expected this hobby to be, but again unless you’re a VIP that’s spent millions over the years with ADs this is part of the hobby evolution. I think people need to stop crying about it and accept it.

[teck21]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

I don’t really see how it can be ignored.

I’ve been collecting watches for 20+ years and observed my father collect my entire life. While I’ve never seen secondary market prices drop I’ve also never seen a time like this.

I got more serious about buying about 10-15 years ago. I’ve been buying from both trusted sellers and ADs since 2014. I have over $100k of purchases with one of my local ADs from the past couple years.

I only mention it to tell you I rarely get the call for anything. I can’t get on a list for a Daytona. I called every AD I worked with the day these OPs were released, I wanted a 36 for my wife and 41 for me. Even gave multiple color options.

So where does that leave me? It leaves me making potentially bad financial decisions because my passion for this hobby is that strong.

On this forum you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t. If I say I don’t care about the premium and just want a specific watch for the passion, I’m said to be an idiot, crazy, a fool soon to be parted with his money.

So after you hear all these so called experts and “passionate” enthusiasts tell you how stupid you are for paying a premium, you tend to keep a close eye on the market to see how stupid you were for spending that extra money. Turns out I’ve literally never bought a watch that dropped in value! Who knew!?

Point being you don’t need to be primarily following the market here cause you see these watches as investments. Some of us follow it because our passion for these watches truly out weighs what is (supposedly) illogical decisions and spending habits lol.

Also, we all have our bucket list watches right? Unless you are a true VIP at your ADs, it’s likely you have been priced out of EVER owning some of these watches. Last year I decided to bite the bullet on many of mine, especially after thinking I’d own a 5711 one day and seeing it sore over $100k. YES, I did research, looked at the market trends and history. Read a little about anniversary years. And YES admittedly approached some of these purchases as if they were investments, because I’m trying to ride the balance between true passion for this hobby and not throwing away money for no reason.

This is not ever where I expected this hobby to be, but again unless you’re a VIP that’s spent millions over the years with ADs this is part of the hobby evolution. I think people need to stop crying about it and accept it.

That’s some very thoughtful sharing.




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[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

I don’t really see how it can be ignored.

I’ve been collecting watches for 20+ years and observed my father collect my entire life. While I’ve never seen secondary market prices drop I’ve also never seen a time like this.

I got more serious about buying about 10-15 years ago. I’ve been buying from both trusted sellers and ADs since 2014. I have over $100k of purchases with one of my local ADs from the past couple years.

I only mention it to tell you I rarely get the call for anything. I can’t get on a list for a Daytona. I called every AD I worked with the day these OPs were released, I wanted a 36 for my wife and 41 for me. Even gave multiple color options.

So where does that leave me? It leaves me making potentially bad financial decisions because my passion for this hobby is that strong.

On this forum you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t. If I say I don’t care about the premium and just want a specific watch for the passion, I’m said to be an idiot, crazy, a fool soon to be parted with his money.

So after you hear all these so called experts and “passionate” enthusiasts tell you how stupid you are for paying a premium, you tend to keep a close eye on the market to see how stupid you were for spending that extra money. Turns out I’ve literally never bought a watch that dropped in value! Who knew!?

Point being you don’t need to be primarily following the market here cause you see these watches as investments. Some of us follow it because our passion for these watches truly out weighs what is (supposedly) illogical decisions and spending habits lol.

Also, we all have our bucket list watches right? Unless you are a true VIP at your ADs, it’s likely you have been priced out of EVER owning some of these watches. Last year I decided to bite the bullet on many of mine, especially after thinking I’d own a 5711 one day and seeing it sore over $100k. YES, I did research, looked at the market trends and history. Read a little about anniversary years. And YES admittedly approached some of these purchases as if they were investments, because I’m trying to ride the balance between true passion for this hobby and not throwing away money for no reason.

This is not ever where I expected this hobby to be, but again unless you’re a VIP that’s spent millions over the years with ADs this is part of the hobby evolution. I think people need to stop crying about it and accept it.

Always enjoy your posts Chadri. Well articulated. Thank you.

[Sub*Man]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

I don’t really see how it can be ignored.

I’ve been collecting watches for 20+ years and observed my father collect my entire life. While I’ve never seen secondary market prices drop I’ve also never seen a time like this.

I got more serious about buying about 10-15 years ago. I’ve been buying from both trusted sellers and ADs since 2014. I have over $100k of purchases with one of my local ADs from the past couple years.

I only mention it to tell you I rarely get the call for anything. I can’t get on a list for a Daytona. I called every AD I worked with the day these OPs were released, I wanted a 36 for my wife and 41 for me. Even gave multiple color options.

So where does that leave me? It leaves me making potentially bad financial decisions because my passion for this hobby is that strong.

On this forum you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t. If I say I don’t care about the premium and just want a specific watch for the passion, I’m said to be an idiot, crazy, a fool soon to be parted with his money.

So after you hear all these so called experts and “passionate” enthusiasts tell you how stupid you are for paying a premium, you tend to keep a close eye on the market to see how stupid you were for spending that extra money. Turns out I’ve literally never bought a watch that dropped in value! Who knew!?

Point being you don’t need to be primarily following the market here cause you see these watches as investments. Some of us follow it because our passion for these watches truly out weighs what is (supposedly) illogical decisions and spending habits lol.

Also, we all have our bucket list watches right? Unless you are a true VIP at your ADs, it’s likely you have been priced out of EVER owning some of these watches. Last year I decided to bite the bullet on many of mine, especially after thinking I’d own a 5711 one day and seeing it sore over $100k. YES, I did research, looked at the market trends and history. Read a little about anniversary years. And YES admittedly approached some of these purchases as if they were investments, because I’m trying to ride the balance between true passion for this hobby and not throwing away money for no reason.

This is not ever where I expected this hobby to be, but again unless you’re a VIP that’s spent millions over the years with ADs this is part of the hobby evolution. I think people need to stop crying about it and accept it.

Curios, what market are you in?

In most markets $100k should get you a Daytona… I documented my Daytona journey on here, and I was super frustrated, it took over 3 years but once I crossed $100k in spend, it came to fruition. Then, the doors seem to open up.


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[ArtNouveau]

Originally Posted by nokaoi1

Wtf is a doxa


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You need to get out more.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Sub*Man

Curios, what market are you in?

In most markets $100k should get you a Daytona… I documented my Daytona journey on here, and I was super frustrated, it took over 3 years but once I crossed $100k in spend, it came to fruition. Then, the doors seem to open up.


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Long island/ NYC.

I've heard many amazing stories here on the forums of ADs coming through for both long time loyal customers and relatively new ones! All good stuff.

Unfortunately here in NY $100k gets me a call for a black bay 58, and that's 2 years after it's release haha.

[CarlOver]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

I don’t really see how it can be ignored.

I’ve been collecting watches for 20+ years and observed my father collect my entire life. While I’ve never seen secondary market prices drop I’ve also never seen a time like this.

I got more serious about buying about 10-15 years ago. I’ve been buying from both trusted sellers and ADs since 2014. I have over $100k of purchases with one of my local ADs from the past couple years.

I only mention it to tell you I rarely get the call for anything. I can’t get on a list for a Daytona. I called every AD I worked with the day these OPs were released, I wanted a 36 for my wife and 41 for me. Even gave multiple color options.

So where does that leave me? It leaves me making potentially bad financial decisions because my passion for this hobby is that strong.

On this forum you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t. If I say I don’t care about the premium and just want a specific watch for the passion, I’m said to be an idiot, crazy, a fool soon to be parted with his money.

So after you hear all these so called experts and “passionate” enthusiasts tell you how stupid you are for paying a premium, you tend to keep a close eye on the market to see how stupid you were for spending that extra money. Turns out I’ve literally never bought a watch that dropped in value! Who knew!?

Point being you don’t need to be primarily following the market here cause you see these watches as investments. Some of us follow it because our passion for these watches truly out weighs what is (supposedly) illogical decisions and spending habits lol.

Also, we all have our bucket list watches right? Unless you are a true VIP at your ADs, it’s likely you have been priced out of EVER owning some of these watches. Last year I decided to bite the bullet on many of mine, especially after thinking I’d own a 5711 one day and seeing it sore over $100k. YES, I did research, looked at the market trends and history. Read a little about anniversary years. And YES admittedly approached some of these purchases as if they were investments, because I’m trying to ride the balance between true passion for this hobby and not throwing away money for no reason.

This is not ever where I expected this hobby to be, but again unless you’re a VIP that’s spent millions over the years with ADs this is part of the hobby evolution. I think people need to stop crying about it and accept it.

I greatly appreciate this type of reflection looking back many years and comparing to where we are today.

[Randy9999]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

I don’t really see how it can be ignored.

I’ve been collecting watches for 20+ years and observed my father collect my entire life. While I’ve never seen secondary market prices drop I’ve also never seen a time like this.

I got more serious about buying about 10-15 years ago. I’ve been buying from both trusted sellers and ADs since 2014. I have over $100k of purchases with one of my local ADs from the past couple years.

I only mention it to tell you I rarely get the call for anything. I can’t get on a list for a Daytona. I called every AD I worked with the day these OPs were released, I wanted a 36 for my wife and 41 for me. Even gave multiple color options.

So where does that leave me? It leaves me making potentially bad financial decisions because my passion for this hobby is that strong.

On this forum you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t. If I say I don’t care about the premium and just want a specific watch for the passion, I’m said to be an idiot, crazy, a fool soon to be parted with his money.

So after you hear all these so called experts and “passionate” enthusiasts tell you how stupid you are for paying a premium, you tend to keep a close eye on the market to see how stupid you were for spending that extra money. Turns out I’ve literally never bought a watch that dropped in value! Who knew!?

Point being you don’t need to be primarily following the market here cause you see these watches as investments. Some of us follow it because our passion for these watches truly out weighs what is (supposedly) illogical decisions and spending habits lol.

Also, we all have our bucket list watches right? Unless you are a true VIP at your ADs, it’s likely you have been priced out of EVER owning some of these watches. Last year I decided to bite the bullet on many of mine, especially after thinking I’d own a 5711 one day and seeing it sore over $100k. YES, I did research, looked at the market trends and history. Read a little about anniversary years. And YES admittedly approached some of these purchases as if they were investments, because I’m trying to ride the balance between true passion for this hobby and not throwing away money for no reason.

This is not ever where I expected this hobby to be, but again unless you’re a VIP that’s spent millions over the years with ADs this is part of the hobby evolution. I think people need to stop crying about it and accept it.

100% agree. I'm very tired of people disparaging others here for tracking value. My collection is extensive, with Chrono24 valuing my 57 watches at just under $800k (as of this morning). I track value all the time. But I have NEVER sold a watch. I imagine that time will come in 20 years when I downsize holdings of all kinds, but at present I'm the definition of an anti-flipper, LOL. Still I enjoy tracking value, and I disagree with the cultish judges here who would disparage me for doing so.

[Sub*Man]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

Long island/ NYC.

I've heard many amazing stories here on the forums of ADs coming through for both long time loyal customers and relatively new ones! All good stuff.

Unfortunately here in NY $100k gets me a call for a black bay 58, and that's 2 years after it's release haha.

I was thinking it had to be a major market… NY, Chicago, LA, Miami… Seems like you have to be $250k + to even get recognized walking through the door. Im sorry to hear that for you. I’m in a mid-market, it’s much different, but understandable that you wouldn’t want to start your spend history over with a new AD.


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[Sub*Man]

Originally Posted by Randy9999

100% agree. I'm very tired of people disparaging others here for tracking value. My collection is extensive, with Chrono24 valuing my 57 watches at just under $800k (as of this morning). I track value all the time. But I have NEVER sold a watch. I imagine that time will come in 20 years when I downsize holdings of all kinds, but at present I'm the definition of an anti-flipper, LOL. Still I enjoy tracking value, and I disagree with the cultish judges here who would disparage me for doing so.

Incredibly well said. I track my values monthly - for net worth calculating and insurance purposes.

These watches have turned into asset classes and absolutely should be valued/treated as such. You can look at high end watches as investments without immediately garnering a return.


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[Sub*Man]

Anyone who doesn’t put high end watches in the same lane as fine art, wine, classic cars etc doesn’t understand alt investments or at a minimum, doesn’t appreciate them.


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