TT - Why are they unwanted on the secondary market?

[AJMarcus]

I think because they're less wanted on the new market. Simple market forces if you will. just a lot less desirable, at least in the US, than SS.

[phan655]

Anthony/Tom: I aspire to own a all gold Rolex one day. I love the look of gold. I certainly did not mean to offend anyone. I was only stating that people in that profession would not be caught dead with any SS on their wrist.

[kbutler1]

Love the TT options, especially the Sub. Just a little too much for my work environment though but maybe if I get promoted.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by Mick P

Chaps

The OP asked a simple question, why are TT watches unpopular.

The answer I am afraid is simple - They look cheap and tacky and it is the sort of thing you would expect a pimp to wear.

Either go for all gold or SS but TT is just plain naff.

It belongs to the 1970s, when frizzy hair, gold medallions and flared trousers were considered trendy and five years later everyone cringed in embarrassment.

Mick

Amazing, I don't agree with a single word of your post. I think that it really deserved a "IMHO" somewhere.

Sent from my SGS using Tapatalk.

[ArcticMoose]

Of all the threads I've posted in, this is the one that is still getting hits three years later. Interesting.

[gwozhog]

This thread is pretty darn old now and for some reason keeps on popping up. I bought my tt subC bnib from an AD just before this thread started. Recently sold the watch for 500 bucks more than i paid for it 3 years ago. So i would say First hand that TT is definately in demand. Although ironically i now only own an all SS sub.

[socalwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by tswanenguni

the tt blue sub is one of the nicest rolexes ever !! The only watch that i sold that i actually miss .... 16613

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[DCgator]

A TT has always been a part of my collection. I own SS, YG, TT Rolex and other brands. Can wear my TT with almost anything, be it casual, suit+tie, or something in between. Always had a TT in collection since my 20s. Gotta have at least one or two.

Loving my GMT-C, IWC, and Zenith TT pieces.

[Mick P]

Chaps

I think some of you have over reacted a bit to my comments on TT watches going down in popularity.

You may think TT looks great and that is your prerogative, however a large amount of people genuinely think that a TT watch looks tacky.

If that view is held by a large amount of people, then that explains why TT is way out of fashion. You cannot please all of the people all of the time.

There is absolutely no point shooting the messenger.

In total contrast, I wear an Explorer and my son thinks it is deadly dull in appearance, he has every right to that opinion and I certainly have no wish to line him up in front of a firing squad because he is not 100% sold on my watch.

However all is not lost, he quite likes my SS Sub.

Regards

Mick

[ROLEX*]

In my opinion, SS has a more uniform outlook and less busy compared to TT.

Plus, SS is more scratch resistant compared to TT.

TT gives a feeling of "neither here nor there" ? j/k :D

SS exerts minimalist, timelessness, versatility and understateness which explain on its popularity ;)

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by ROLEX*

In my opinion, SS has a more uniform outlook and less busy compared to TT.

Plus, SS is more scratch resistant compared to TT.

TT gives a feeling of "neither here nor there" ? j/k :D

SS exerts minimalist, timelessness, versatility and understateness which explain on its popularity ;)

Personal opinion.

[locutus49]

First of all, we prefer "Manager of Escorts" to Pimps, which sounds derogatory. Secondly, a manager has a crew of five of fewer escorts, he be blingin' Gold. Now, manage a larger crew and you are talking executive class, and it is Platinum and diamonds all the way, baby. And if an Escort Manager wears TT, he is running trans-gender escorts.

See, the code is simple.

[Time Collector]

Originally Posted by phan655

Anthony/Tom: I aspire to own a all gold Rolex one day. I love the look of gold. I certainly did not mean to offend anyone. I was only stating that people in that profession would not be caught dead with any SS on their wrist.

Hey phan655, there was no offense taken by me at least. I just was taken back by the general statement, which I add that you have a right to make. I personally don't know why some of the pimps loves gold but since I'm a fact based kinda guy I offer up this:

Gold has held a spell on mankind from the beginning of recorded time. The allure of the yellow metal is well documented in the records of ancient Egypt as far back as 3,000 BC, and in the classical eras of Greece and Rome. The word “gold” appears over 400 times in the King James Bible. It is said that God chose gold for the shrine where people could come to worship. The early Byzantines hoarded gold as an instrument of power to ward off their enemies.

Columbus believed that gold was a means to heaven. The reality is that in every region of the world, gold has made a historical, cultural and financial impact. And the US is no exception. The early expansion of the western states, particularly California and Nevada, was driven by the Gold Rush of 1849, after which gold exploration continued for several decades.

The allure of gold is a complex phenomenon. Since gold is not a life sustaining commodity, such as crude oil or food, and has minimal industrial use, why has it been so aggressively sought and highly valued since ancient times? Why have governments gone so far as to establish gold as a currency and peg other forms of currency against a gold standard? It seems there is no singularly compelling answer to these questions. The fact is gold has held a mesmerizing power over humans, its demand has not abated over time, and its perception as an object of value has never ceased. According to Peter L. Bernstein, "Over the centuries, gold has stirred the passions for power and glory, for beauty, for security, and even for immortality. Gold has been an icon for greed, a vehicle for vanity, and a potent constraint as a monetary standard. No other object has commanded so much veneration over so long a period of time." (The Power of Gold: The History of an Obsession, Bernstein, P. 367.)

So just maybe those pimps are looking to show the world their wealth and the rest of us enjoy the allure of gold.

[rmfnla]

Originally Posted by Mick P

Chaps

The OP asked a simple question, why are TT watches unpopular.

The answer I am afraid is simple - They look cheap and tacky and it is the sort of thing you would expect a pimp to wear.

Either go for all gold or SS but TT is just plain naff.

It belongs to the 1970s, when frizzy hair, gold medallions and flared trousers were considered trendy and five years later everyone cringed in embarrassment.

Mick

Guess that's why the TT DJ is still the most popular and most iconic Rolex...

[SALTY]

While I enjoy the SS Rolex watches I have been blessed to have, my "tool" watches generally rubber: G-Shocks and their ilk.

Sure, there was a time when Rolex watches were the rugged, reliable, affordable and durable tool watches that we love them for and that the well deserved heritage is derived from - but that really isn't the case today.

I we were to be entirely honest, Rolex watches today are luxury items. Very well made, rugged, reliable and durable luxury items. This, at least in my mind, is a subtle yet not insignificant distinction compared with jewelry which, again - in my mind serves almost exclusively to adorn and decorate.

With said, and as a fan of SS Rolex watches, it is the two-tones that represent that medley of well made, rugged, reliable and durable luxury. The 18K YG DD (bark) I obtained many years ago is certainly a keeper but its relatively soft material (compared to SS) along with its bark finishes do not stand up as well (compared to SS) to the incidents of everyday life without showing scars. Knowing this, it resides mainly in my safe and comes out for certain occasions where the rigours de jour are anticipated to be light and easy.

The two-tones have SS at their outside edges for the most part and face the day resisting dings, dents and battle scars. The gold, which is warm and rich to the eye and to the touch, exudes the luxury and is centrally located and central to the presentation. I have been blessed to possess models of YG, TT and SS, and while each has their place - it is the TT models that speaks to what I perceive as modern day Rolex.

These are only my opinions and yours may vary. They're all good!

[ArcticMoose]

Originally Posted by Nimrod

Sure, there was a time when Rolex watches were the rugged, reliable, affordable and durable tool watches that we love them for and that the well deserved heritage is derived from - but that really isn't the case today.

No, it is not. They are MORE rugged, and MORE reliable, but prices have gone up at a rate that outpaces inflation.

[SALTY]

I did say, " ... , Rolex watches today are luxury items. Very well made, rugged, reliable and durable luxury items."

And to your point, yes, they are more of the above today than in by-gone years.

[onlysteel]

Originally Posted by fmc000

Originally Posted by Mick P
Chaps

The OP asked a simple question, why are TT watches unpopular.

The answer I am afraid is simple - They look cheap and tacky and it is the sort of thing you would expect a pimp to wear.

Either go for all gold or SS but TT is just plain naff.

It belongs to the 1970s, when frizzy hair, gold medallions and flared trousers were considered trendy and five years later everyone cringed in embarrassment.

Mick.

Really? a TT Sub a pimps watch? wow! I am out of words ...and if these TT are so unwanted, why is their price climbing up in the 2ndary market?

[superdog]

Originally Posted by Mick P

Chaps

I think some of you have over reacted a bit to my comments on TT watches going down in popularity.

You may think TT looks great and that is your prerogative, however a large amount of people genuinely think that a TT watch looks tacky.

If that view is held by a large amount of people, then that explains why TT is way out of fashion. You cannot please all of the people all of the time.

There is absolutely no point shooting the messenger.

In total contrast, I wear an Explorer and my son thinks it is deadly dull in appearance, he has every right to that opinion and I certainly have no wish to line him up in front of a firing squad because he is not 100% sold on my watch.

However all is not lost, he quite likes my SS Sub.

Regards

Mick

Fair enough Mick. For certain, you have a right to your opinion. I know many people that think anyone wearing any Rolex is tacky. I know others that think wearing the sub, the most recognizable watch in the world, is super tacky.

Clearly, I am not one of those people, but I do respect their opinion. The same way I respect yours.

I personally never much liked TT in the past. I recently picked one up, and it is holding my attention like none before it. And there have been many before it.

I like it so much, I am thinking about another in the near future.

Hell, I used to think full yellow gold was the tackiest thing ever. Now, I can't wait to get one. The more I look at YG, the more I like it. In all its iterations.

[Kobayashi]

The second edition Rolex magazine features the two tone DJ on a jubilee. The DJ is the most popular selling Rolex in the world and the TT DJ is a contributing factor. I'm now looking for a GMT 16753 or 16713 (root beer) and it's been challenging to find.

[Jake B]

I love the TT black Sub & I'm fairly certain that I'll own one someday.

[Mystro]

Saying a TT is "tacky" makes as much sense as saying a all SS watch looks cheap because its built out of such a pedestrian material.


If this is "tacky" then the Spirit of Ecstasy is pornographic.

[newu5er]

Originally Posted by Muzz

This is my actual Vegas attire, a TT is certainly not pimp!!

wow...are you serious?

[echau]

Originally Posted by Mick P

Chaps

The OP asked a simple question, why are TT watches unpopular.

The answer I am afraid is simple - They look cheap and tacky and it is the sort of thing you would expect a pimp to wear.

Either go for all gold or SS but TT is just plain naff.

It belongs to the 1970s, when frizzy hair, gold medallions and flared trousers were considered trendy and five years later everyone cringed in embarrassment.

Mick

You're the Donald Sterling of this forum, and should be banned for life.































In all truth though, you're entitled to your own opinion, but that was a bold and ignorant statement.

[AK797]

There is certainly a correlation between length of membership of this forum and narrow, judgemental, dismissive views.

Only time on TRF is the path to enlightenment and true Rolex Nirvana.

This thread has proved that more than once and is the reason for its longevity.

[jjnd08]

Originally Posted by AK797

There is certainly a correlation between length of membership of this forum and narrow, judgemental, dismissive views.

Only time on TRF is the path to enlightenment and true Rolex Nirvana.

This thread has proved that more than once and is the reason for its longevity.

I think that's because those that express those views so brazenly on this forum either become pariahs and choose to not come back, or they finally cross the line and get banned.

[Time Collector]

Originally Posted by echau

You're the Donald Sterling of this forum, and should be banned for life
In all truth though, you're entitled to your own opinion, but that was a bold and ignorant statement.

Like you said "Mick P" is entitled to his opinion being heard just like the rest of us. I love to listen to new views even if they are different than mine, especially if they or fact based, because there is always a teaching/learning moment with every comment. In this case there is nothing to learn or get mad at because he has clearly not given any fact based examples of his TT theory but he did offer up an opinion from his self professed limited knowledge of Rolex watches, he stated this limited knowledge in a post on May 2, 2014:
" Chaps
Six months ago I knew very little about Rolexes other than they were more waterproof than most watches." "Facts never Lie"

The teaching moment here is to not get offended because someone throws an opinion up on a thread, because they might not know what they are talking about.
This forum is called the Rolex Forum for a reason. It's here for every Rolex owner to come here and talk about different watches and experiences. With that said, we can't continue to trash certain models and then hide behind the fact that : "I was just stating my opinion." The fact is that, there is always someone who loves that same model of Rolex that you might think is tacky or belongs to pimps. You can still express your dislikes for a model by simply not buying it or by gently stating the reasons why you dislike it, but it doesn't serve this community any good by attacking someones choice to buy a model you don't like.

I'm writing this in hopes that we respect one another and just give a little thought to the opinion that we put out there, because it just might be hurting someone indirectly.

[echau]

^well stated, Anthony

[rmfnla]

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[Mick P]

Originally Posted by Time Collector

Like you said "Mick P" is entitled to his opinion being heard just like the rest of us. I love to listen to new views even if they are different than mine, especially if they or fact based, because there is always a teaching/learning moment with every comment. In this case there is nothing to learn or get mad at because he has clearly not given any fact based examples of his TT theory but he did offer up an opinion from his self professed limited knowledge of Rolex watches, he stated this limited knowledge in a post on May 2, 2014:
" Chaps
Six months ago I knew very little about Rolexes other than they were more waterproof than most watches." "Facts never Lie"

The teaching moment here is to not get offended because someone throws an opinion up on a thread, because they might not know what they are talking about.
This forum is called the Rolex Forum for a reason. It's here for every Rolex owner to come here and talk about different watches and experiences. With that said, we can't continue to trash certain models and then hide behind the fact that : "I was just stating my opinion." The fact is that, there is always someone who loves that same model of Rolex that you might think is tacky or belongs to pimps. You can still express your dislikes for a model by simply not buying it or by gently stating the reasons why you dislike it, but it doesn't serve this community any good by attacking someones choice to buy a model you don't like.

I'm writing this in hopes that we respect one another and just give a little thought to the opinion that we put out there, because it just might be hurting someone indirectly.

Time Collector

Thank you for your posting which puts things into perspective.

The OP asked a question and I gave an answer which has obviously rubbed a few people up the wrong way.

The only part of my posting that could be construed as "offensive" was the reference to pimps. Now I would have thought that anyone over the age of 16 would have realised that this statement was issued tongue in cheek but obviously not.

Therefore I wish to apologise to everyone who thought it OTT but it was a jibe, after all I have no first hand experience of what a pimp wears.

Also to those calling out for me to be banned or hung by the neck until pronounced dead, I undertake not to make any more comments here because I don't enjoy upsetting people.

I will just lurk from now on because when all said and done, I have learnt quite a lot about Rolexes since joining the forum a few months ago.

Regards

Mick