What's up with the constant DSSD bashing on TRF...

[carlhaluss]

Personally, the 43mm size is a bit big for me. However, I haven't really been aware of any "bashing". It is still a beautiful watch, and having said it is a bit big, I have owned bigger. A lot of the other Divers out there are at least 44mm and higher. Rolex has obviously put a tremendous amount of engineering into this timepiece to have come up with one this size, and still having the amazing depth rating that it does. The Breitling Seawolf has a depth rating of 10,000 feet - less than the DSSD - but it quite a bit bigger: 45mm and 18.5mm thick.
Anyway, there has been a lot of discussion about the DSSD. However, I have gotten the opposite impression, ie that the watch is pretty much admired. To be truthful, that is one of the things I like most about this forum, is that there is very little negativity on here. I find even when I post info and pics about my Omegas the odd time, the feedback is very positive.
I don't really notice that there is a lot of jealousy here either. There are people on here from all walks of life, various income levels, and various levels of disposable income or funds that they allocate toward watches. For example, I have a very simple lifestyle, don't own a home, don't have a vehicle, and don't make a lot of money. I do, however, spend a large portion of my money on watches, and wish that I could afford a lot more, and some more expensive ones as well. When I see postings of guys who spend more money and buy more expensive watches than I do, I am generally happy for them and grateful that they are sharing their experiences with all of us. It's all relative. I am sure there are some who envy my watch collection as well, but they don't show me any signs of jealousy. Quite the contrary. I always feel that my postings, with pics and info, are very well received by almost everyone.
Cheers,
Carl

Cheers,
Carl

[Clogger]

Posted in the other thread, l but will re post here;

Here is my take on the DSSD.

I am one of the guys that this watch is meant to have been designed for ie I am a Commercial Diver working in the Oil and Gas Industry.

Those of us in my profession that are keen on watches (there are quite a few of us) have keenly talked about the DSSD and many guys showed an interest in purchasing one, probably just a case of one up manship as a lot of guys wear Sub's and SD's, infact there are loads of the things on my vessel. I wear at the mo either an SD or SS Sub Date.

I was particularer interested in getting a DSSD however until recently I had only seen photo's of the watch on the net. Some of my friends had seen it in the flesh and said it was a bit of a monster. First I would like to say that from the photos I have seen I think the watch does look awesome and I was even more keen to get one.

The other day while at an AD (with a friend who is also a Comm Diver) to get a new watch (the Sub) they had a DSSD in and I was keen to have a look and that is where my interest stopped.

We both commented on how commical and ungainly the watch looked, as many have said it's not the diameter but the thickness. My mate also decided that it wasn't for him and recently ordered an original SD and I stuck with my original choice and purchassed the Sub.

Now I have always liked the fact that Rolex has always marketed it's sports watches as tools, the explorer for Mountaineers, the Daytona for Drivers, the GMT for pilots and the SD/Sub for Divers.

Now the DSSD is so big it actually is not fit for purpose, let me explain;

All romantic notions asside, Commercial Divers for the most part do not wear watches in the water, despite those great images from Comex etc.. as the watch would likely get broken and lost. The place where they got worn is in the Sat Chambers and when back in the bar on land. To that end the watch has to be quite comfy and fit for all occasions, the SD and Sub are perfect for this the DSSD is not (unless you are a very big fellow).

This is why I think the DSSD is a bit micky mouse and the original SD is in fact the better watch, I think Rolex would have been much wiser to have just updated the SD a little and kept the watch the same size as it the size of a practicle tool. I personally think Rolex have made a huge mistake with DSSD.

So if the DSSD is not favored by those who it is ultimatly designed for then what is the point in it? like I say I think the watch does look awesome but if you want to get a watch that is worn by the pros either get a Sub or a now discontinued SD.

I am not writing this to bash the DSSD, at the end of the day if you have one and like it that is all that matters. I am just trying to explain my dislike of the watch that has nothing to do with fashion but from a purely practical stand point.

Regards.

[Sonny Crockett]

So I don't get this about fashion and too big lets see, the the YM II is also big. There was a time when 40 mm was to big and it still is to some smaller size men. The thing here is that Rolex makes different sizes and models for everyone That's why they do so well and are always looking to improve, having the DSSD at a bigger size was the right move by the company IMO, sale are great according to both AD I use on the DSSD on bad economic times.
When trying on the DSSD at the AD with the bracelet no properly sized for you is not a proper way to try on any watch. The bracelet looks fine while it's on the wrist. People tell me all the time wow what a real nice watch what is it?
Bottom line buy and wear what you like. This is a Forum of opinions and thoughts. every one is not gonna like the same model.. So let get along

[cornerstore]

Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett

. There was a time when 40 mm was to big and it still is to some smaller size men. The thing here is that Rolex makes different sizes and models for everyone.
Bottom line buy and wear what you like. This is a Forum of opinions and thoughts. every one is not gonna like the same model.. So let get along

You are absolutely correct a few years back I wouldn't wear a 40mm watch, too BIG. Now after owing a couple 42mm ones- Omega Titanium Seamaster and a Hublot both which I found too big, my EXP11 and Tudor Sub seem like the perfect size. My 36mm ones-a Rolex and a Seamaster- I sold off as they seemed too small after the 42mm ones. I have a small wrist so I can see the allure in getting a DSSD for a guy that was use to wearing 36 or 40mm watches on a large wrist. However to me they seem like they are on droids but so did the 40mm ones a few years back, not bashing just my perspective. IMO Rolex did exactly what they needed to do to get into the BIG WACH game without bastardising the brand by creating DSSD .

[promethus]

Got it when it was first released. Love everything about it, Even the Rehaut engravings! But the bracelet.... the size of it is simply weird. Now, if the bracelet is more proportional like the one on my Pam106D.
It will be the only watch I will ever wear and keep. The glidelock system is amazing.

[Brushpup]

I don't bash it...each to his own, but I don't care for it personally. Someone here loves something different, but they shouldn't trash or bash. As Paul said, some need manners...

[Fiery]

I personally don't like the DSSD, due to the weird writings on the rehaut. For the same money I'd get a TT GMT IIC or a SS Daytona instead. But I don't think the DSSD would be ostentatious or disgusting at all. I think it's a proper Rolex, a proper diver's watch. Just because it's bigger than any other Rolex wouldn't make it any less of a Rolex. The Daytona or the Yacht-Master II are also special, one of a kind pieces in the Rolex line-up.

I think some people may have got upset at DSSD release because it replaced the loved Sea-Dweller. And as a replacement it is too radical -- let's face it, it's not typical about Rolex to refresh or replace iconic watches with radical steps in any directions.

I guess if Rolex rolls out a new Explorer II with 43mm diameter, ceramic bezel, maxi-dial, maxi-case, PCL, writings on the rehaut or the bezel (etc), people will be equally upset about it.

[KJacques]

Originally Posted by acadianl79

What's up with DSSD bashing here...

is it envy ?
jalousy ?
afraid that your smaller dweller or submariner loose its value by not keeping up with the current trend for bigger watch ?
can not afford one ?

Interesting reasons you draw up for someone not liking the DSSD. The watch has many technological advancements, but I'm not attracted to it because to me its unnecessary height makes the watch look ridiculous and obvious on the wearer's wrist like a cry for attention. Of course, I can also see how that type of narcissitic appeal is one thing that might have someone erroneously believing that others are simply jealous of their watch.

[DSJ]

The DS does nothing for me, but then again, my Explorer II or Blue Submariner does nothing for other people. I'm not offended.

[kyle L]

Saying "it's not my cup of tea" does not mean that someone's bashing the DSSD. I personally don't like it, but that's just my opinion. Whatever floats your boat.

[Goodwatch]

I don't think it's real bashing. When creating this watch, Rolex departed from their usual slow-paced evolution. It has to sink in. It is brash, bold and makes a statement. Now, what statement isn't yet clear of course. I regard it as a 'tour the force'. Rolex wants to show the world what it can achieve. Imagine a non-oil filled watch withstanding that depths. Superfluous but it can be done. The Bathyscaphe watch's little brother so to speak. Now there's an 'arms race' going on where watches are being produced that can go down to ridiculous depths, like 12,000 meters. Not assisted by oil. 10 mm crystal.

Personally, I'm more in the 'old' Seadweller camp but that is just because of my own preference

[ParisDakarBmw]

This is the same thing that happened when Land Rover sold to Ford. Same thing when BMW made it's current cosmetic makeover. People loved the old, and hated the new. Other people liked both. For some they didn't like the look until it changed. There's no reason to to get upset. Just buy the one you like most, and stay away from the others.

[cody p]

zzzzzzzz...

[baldyspoon]

Everyones entitled to their opinion, and just because it's not the same as yours does not mean they are bashing your watch or any watch. All they are stating is that it is not for them, if you like it that is all that matters.

[Macro80]

First ive heard of any negativety to the DSSD. Maybe the problem is in your head, insecurity maybe.

[jjbodean1970]

Originally Posted by Macro80

First ive heard of any negativety to the DSSD. Maybe the problem is in your head, insecurity maybe.

hardly, he listed some very specific examples earlier in this thread, i suggest you go take a look

[Strut99GT]

Originally Posted by jjbodean1970

hardly, he listed some very specific examples earlier in this thread, i suggest you go take a look

Every single Rolex model gets negative criticism in varying ways in various threads. Who cares? Are people not allowed to dislike something?

[jjbodean1970]

Originally Posted by Strut99GT

Every single Rolex model gets negative criticism in varying ways in various threads. Who cares? Are people not allowed to dislike something?

sure they are. the OP simply stated that he noticed what he thought was an unusual amount of criticism towards one watch in particular. he made very specific examples of such criticism. thats all.

[ElPrimero]

Originally Posted by Macro80

First ive heard of any negativety to the DSSD. Maybe the problem is in your head, insecurity maybe.

Just have a look at the thread he quotes.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=50571

[Dan Pierce]

Why so much concern about what others think? Or is that why you wear it? Try wearing a Tudor and watch some of the purist's eyes roll.
The pride you receive wearing it is all that matters.
dP

[RJC]

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

The pride you receive wearing it is all that matters.
dP

[moviefreak]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

JJ getting close to 66,666 post...

[everose]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Why so much concern about what others think? Or is that why you wear it? Try wearing a Tudor and watch some of the purist's eyes roll.
The pride you receive wearing it is all that matters.
dP

Sometimes i wonder if the smarter people are all wearing Tudor whilst i wear Rolex???????

[cornerstore]

Originally Posted by everose

Sometimes i wonder if the smarter people are all wearing Tudor whilst i wear Rolex???????

I wear both just to be sure

[sturgeon123456]

There are people that disrespect, to varying degrees, every model on this forum. I can put $100 000 down that every time a GMT 2 C is discussed there is one fellow that is ready to post pictures of his GMT Coke and Pepsi and tell how those are better. EVERY TIME. I dont check the forums for a couple of weeks and I log in and sure as sh*t there it is. Same guy, same pictures....same comments. Yes I do have a GMT 2 C, no I dont take offense to his actions as he is entitled to......it is annoying and troublesome to think that someone can dedicate so much of their time and energy to do this. To make a long story short, in my brief time on this forum I have seen every watch dissrespected.

I LOVE THE NEW SEA DWELLER. I love all Rolex models. Would I buy every model.....no. Do I have favorites....of course. Are there people that take there opinions to far....>ABSOLUTELY

[steveseiko]

Don't worry about the naysayers, I'm going out to dinner tonight and wearing mine.

[Zirotti]

It was my first and will probably be my only Rolex. The rest of the Rolex lineup just doesn't do anything for me, whereas the Deepsea does. I'm not a fan of plain watches, which is probably why I love my DSSD. It has lot more going on for it, from the awesome bezel, case and glidelock.

Rolex has been very conservative in the development of it's product line over the last 50 years. When something like the DSSD comes out that completely bucks the trend, some people are bound to get upset.

IMO, the claims about the Deepsea being uncomfortable and not fitting under a shirt sleeve are unfounded. When worn on a properly sized bracelet and not just sitting on your wrist at an AD, it wears just as comfortably as anything else. I also wear a suit and tie everyday and it tucks comfortably underneath the sleeve just as anything else.

To each his own. I love my monstrous DSSD as much as I loath anything with gold in it :)

[snow_rocks]

The DSSD was made for commercial divers.

But, subconsciously Rolex knew it would be a big hit

amongst desk divers, even those with six inch

wrists!

The ones opining to the contrary are sometimes done with overzealousness,

and less creative dialog.

[jjbodean1970]

Originally Posted by snow_rocks

The DSSD was made for commercial divers.

But, subconsciously Rolex knew it would be a big hit

amongst desk divers, even those with six inch

wrists!

The ones opining to the contrary are sometimes done with overzealousness,

and less creative dialog.

same is true for the original sea dweller.