The only true tool watch is the sea dweller

[CKLinLA]

I agree. And I'd add the 14060/14060M too.
Beyond the no bling bling, etc.
Notably both these models comes only in BLACK.

[kahoot]

when i say about the milgauss it is beacuse of the looks otherwise it has a function of a tool watch, I have a submariner LV and the SS daytona and also owned a green glass milgauss which was sold later, but for some reason the seadweller feels a lot simpler and gives the feel of a classic toll watch which is the combination of a non date sub but with a date, so best of both worlds.

[Mystro]

Are we saying "tool" as in your a tool to wear one? or "tool" like a hammer??

[marcinthemiddle]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Are we saying "tool" as in your a tool to wear one? or "tool" like a hammer??

[chris russell]

[CKLinLA]

Originally Posted by kahoot

when i say about the milgauss it is beacuse of the looks otherwise it has a function of a tool watch, I have a submariner LV and the SS daytona and also owned a green glass milgauss which was sold later, but for some reason the seadweller feels a lot simpler and gives the feel of a classic toll watch which is the combination of a non date sub but with a date, so best of both worlds.

Actually the date function undermines the Sew Dwellers "tool-ness", but not irredeemably

[bluemartinifan]

My 14060 thinks its the only true tool

[warrior]

does owning a "tool watch" make one cool??? : ) they all tell time. okay....maybe the ones with diamonds and fancy dial designs are less legible, but even they still tell the time.

[Mystro]

Thats a good point. My Serti Submariner will go anywhere and do anything the DSSD will do and live to tell about it.


It just does it while looking better.

Originally Posted by warrior

does owning a "tool watch" make one cool??? : ) they all tell time. okay....maybe the ones with diamonds and fancy dial designs are less legible, but even they still tell the time.

All kidding aside,..Unless you can expose it to damage under task and not feel bad about it, its not a tool.

[Bisquitlips]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Thats a good point. My Serti Submariner will go anywhere and do anything the DSSD will do and live to tell about it.


It just does it while looking better.

All kidding aside,..Unless you can expose it to damage under task and not feel bad about it, its not a tool.

Oh so very TRUE!!!!!!!!

Now remember we are talking about 18K gold in our TT models. Gold being the only metal with its unique properties. You can take one ounce of .999 fine gold and hammer it out so thin that it covers every square inch on the floor of a 10' x 10' room.

Long after our 904L SS has disintegrated to dust, our gold will be remaining.

[rkammer]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Thats a good point. My Serti Submariner will go anywhere and do anything the DSSD will do and live to tell about it.


It just does it while looking better.

All kidding aside,..Unless you can expose it to damage under task and not feel bad about it, its not a tool.

Hmmmm, try taking it down to about 4000 feet underwater.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by rkammer

Hmmmm, try taking it down to about 4000 feet underwater.

Perhaps, but Ill be pudding so what do I care what time it is....

[KJacques]

Originally Posted by warrior

does owning a "tool watch" make one cool??? : ) they all tell time. okay....maybe the ones with diamonds and fancy dial designs are less legible, but even they still tell the time.

No, it doesn't make one cool. It ain't the watch you wear, but how you wear it that gives it the mojo.

[MitchSteel]

No, it doesn't make one cool. It ain't the watch you wear, but how you wear it that gives it the mojo.

Absolutely spot on......Steve McQueen is a perfect example

[kyle L]

It's black, has no date, worn by Bond and looks good on a NATO.

[padi56]

Afraid in 90% of cases today Rolex has lost its tool watch status for being used as a tool watch.I would doubt if 90% of Rolex or other diver tool watches ever see water or are used for what they were intented for.Other than perhaps a dip in the pool, or shower, with quite a few afraid to even get them wet .Most Rolex watches today get a very pampered life reading the many posts on TRF.But agree the SD & Subs were intended to be used as a proper Tool watch that why companies like Comex used them.

[gofore59]

I love my 14060 as a tool watch and would never trade it for a sub date (would rather have a GMT) however, I would take a SD over it any day. Rarer and more robust.

[suddha]

A tool is as a a tool does. If you take your TT diamond dial Sub diving, it's a tool for that job on that day. More power to you.

If you're looking at a purely functional design, the 14060 might win the argument - an accurate workhorse movement, unburdened even from having to push a date wheel around, less text on the dial to distract (non-COSC version), unchanged design for about 50 years. The SD is a modified version, purpose-built for saturation divers - so a true tool. But even if you dive with your SD, odds are you're not using its raison d'etre - the extra hole in the case!

But I'm biased as well.

[Bullyterrier]

The Submariner (non date) is definitely the only 'tool' watch.
I found mine to be most useful when in the field.

[cody p]

tool watches don't have applied indices.

[RodS]

Don't professional divers use dive computers these days, not watches, except perhaps just for back-up?

I bought my GMT in 1966 as a tool watch for it's intended purpose, but has anyone else here used it for astral shots? I would be surprised, but interested!

None of them these days really are tool watches are they, to be honest, except possibly the Milgauss.

[Daily wearer for 16K+ days, but who's counting!]

[ArcticMoose]

Originally Posted by RodS

Don't professional divers use dive computers these days, not watches, except perhaps just for back-up?

My thought exactly, just as I hit the submit button. I was going to let it go, but now that you mention it ...

My Ocean Datamask works in the dark without first shining a light at it, performs perfectly even in zero visibility, tells me my depth, tells me how much air I have left and automatically logs all my dives. The Sub does none of this.

The Datamask continuously recalculates based on the actual dive profile, guaranteeing more bottom time than I could get with the Sub and tables.

I don't need to set the date every other month, and it tells me what day it is. And on top of all this, it keeps time much more accurately!

I appreciate the history of the Sub, and especially all the engineering beauty that has gone into it, but I cannot think of any remotely realistic scenario where I would choose the Sub over the Datamask as far as choice of tool is concerned.

[vjb.knife]

Originally Posted by RodS

Don't professional divers use dive computers these days, not watches, except perhaps just for back-up?

I bought my GMT in 1966 as a tool watch for it's intended purpose, but has anyone else here used it for astral shots? I would be surprised, but interested!

None of them these days really are tool watches are they, to be honest, except possibly the Milgauss.

[Daily wearer for 16K+ days, but who's counting!]

That depends on what you consider a professional diver. If you are talking about Divers in very deep water using surface supplied gas or saturation divers then the answer is no they do not use dive computers. They generally do not use watches either.

[Omega_Precision]

Rolex dive watches are tool watches but let's be honest here, there are far better tools for a diver than a watch.

It's just an extinct tool that is now considered a jewelry piece by most.

[Welshwatchman]

The term "tool watch" for a Rolex was only valid in the days (long since gone) where they represented anything like value for money in relation to the utilitarian purpose for which they were purchased.

A Rolex watch is a luxury article, plain and simple. Has been for more than two decades.

[Earl Camembert]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

A Rolex watch is a luxury article, plain and simple. Has been for more than two decades.

Any mechanical watch, with the possible exception of one for a very special mission, is no longer used as a tool. It just doesn't do enough.

Athletes now have watches that monitor their heart rate and an alarm sounds if his heart rate goes out of a preset range. These watches can time many functions at once plus record altitude climbed and decent.

Cyclists can even attach a transmitter to the rear hub that measures power output. All of this can of course be downloaded into a computer for a detailed analysis of the performance. How many things are now timed with a mechanical watch? I doubt Omega used a Speedmaster to time the Downhill to a thousandth of a second.

I own more Swiss mechanical watches than Asian quartz watches as they are marvels of complexity and workmanship but to be honest my Casio gets the most wrist time as it just does more and if it should not survive the day a brand new one is only a few hundred dollars.

The one exception.

[MikeyTX]

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

Any mechanical watch, with the possible exception of one for a very special mission, is no longer used as a tool. It just doesn't do enough.

Athletes now have watches that monitor their heart rate and an alarm sounds if his heart rate goes out of a preset range. These watches can time many functions at once plus record altitude climbed and decent.

Cyclists can even attach a transmitter to the rear hub that measures power output. All of this can of course be downloaded into a computer for a detailed analysis of the performance. How many things are now timed with a mechanical watch? I doubt Omega used a Speedmaster to time the Downhill to a thousandth of a second.

I own more Swiss mechanical watches than Asian quartz watches as they are marvels of complexity and workmanship but to be honest my Casio gets the most wrist time as it just does more and if it should not survive the day a brand new one is only a few hundred dollars.

How did I know what it was before I scrolled down the page .................

[Dr. Robert]

Rolex is the elegant tool watch.

[Earl Camembert]

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Rolex is the elegant tool watch.

I'm going back to the basement to be with buddies the great unwashed.

[landroverking]

For me the Deep Sea is a liilte over the top. I am just not into the 42mm plus watches from any company.