GMT IIC serial

[16610LV]

Originally Posted by Jim232118

I just bought a GMT II ceramic last week and the serial is Z. I asked the AD if he had a newer one and he said they just go that one in April and showed me the shipping ticket. I am not sure how that came about.

A refurbished set????? or this must be the old old stock kept in the safe by the AD???? hope u got a good discount for that....

Z series is quite a old series, at leas 3-4 years back... It was even before the "M" series.. ("M" series came immediately before the "V" series)

[Perdu]

It's not important at all. The whole serial number thing is over blown. I agree with Padi's comments. There was a project on the German Rolex Site R-L-X where they collected data on X serial and found watches ranging from late 1991 to early 1994. I bought an early 94 X serial that had just come from Rolex U.K. and had a 1994 bracelet code. My point is, don't worry too much about serial numbers.

[16610LV]

Originally Posted by Perdu

It's not important at all. The whole serial number thing is over blown. I agree with Padi's comments. There was a project on the German Rolex Site R-L-X where they collected data on X serial and found watches ranging from late 1991 to early 1994. I bought an early 94 X serial that had just come from Rolex U.K. and had a 1994 bracelet code. My point is, don't worry too much about serial numbers.

Given a choice, since i'm paying good money for the watch, i will definitely demand that my AD give me the latest available series.

why should you pay good money for a watch that may be sitting on the display or safe of the AD for a few years. Rolex also recommend the watch to be serviced once every 5 years.

I guess the new series is a marketing strategy to prevent the AD having problems selling their rolexes.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by padi56

And what difference would a bracelet clasp date make to the clasp its the same clasp thats been around for ten plus years.And the same s.steel its a clasp, nothing more nothing less, and no different from any other s.steel oyster bracelet or clasp, except for a few letters and numbers.So what you are saying JJ, you would not buy a Rolex watch, if the clasp although bought new from AD was perhaps by a few letters and numbers deemed to be a few years old.

Probably no difference Peter but there have been posts stating that the stamped date on a bracelet was a more accurate indication of when the watch was made but if the case date is 4 years later and the movement could be from any era then that is not the case - no pun intended.

Those who don't care about dating serial numbers are probably on the right track.

[ahmadashmawy]

Originally Posted by Jim232118

I just bought a GMT II ceramic last week and the serial is Z. I asked the AD if he had a newer one and he said they just go that one in April and showed me the shipping ticket. I am not sure how that came about.

I am not sure what tah means maybe if an expert here can tell I fthey had z serial on june 2010

[16610LV]

Originally Posted by ahmadashmawy

I am not sure what tah means maybe if an expert here can tell I fthey had z serial on june 2010

hmm... if you have already brought it, why bother to ask??? any reply that suggest that it is old will affect your mood... ignorance is bless...

[padi56]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I'm NOT saying that, Peter.

Just that I have had the opportunity to check out many of the new models and have always found the clasp date manufacture pretty close to the watch date manufacture.

So, in this case, the difference in years is pretty significant..............and that's what surprised me, that's all.

JJ

And how do anyone know that Rolex has changed the way they code the clasps its only a Internet code theory and not 100% fact .First it was holograms now its silly clasp codes I sometimes wonder whats more important the watch or a few letters.In most cases Rolex watches have changed very little in the past 20 years letter codes humbug.I once prayed that Rolex got rid of the holograms,now hopefully with the new serial system this case/clasp date nonsense will be put to rest.And them perhaps TRF can concentrate on the more important bits like the movement and actual watch.And what would all you guys do if Rolex did not stamp the clasps or the cases with a code.Would you all stop buying Rolex watches??? I would doubt it.Myself buy a Rolex for the watch, and not a code and when bought new from AD they will have the same warranty no matter whats on case or clasp.

[The Waddler]

Regarding my clasp code/serial number anomoly (and thank you to everyone for taking the time to comment and apologies to the OP for somewhat hijacking the thread), I've decided that........I don't care. Or more accurately, I'm not going to care any more. It was a wedding present, I love the watch more than is natural, I will wear it until I expire and then hopefully pass it on to one of my children (when we have them).

I think I wound myself up over nothing (no pun intended) and I decided that I should really just get on with enjoying the watch and not worry about every last minutae of it. Clasp codes, V serials.... you know what - if I was dating Heidi Klum I wouldn't spend every last minute checking her back for moles if you know what I mean.....I'd simply enjoy the experience as much as i could. So I'm going to!

I'm also going to start a thread introducing myself properly and telling the story of how I finally became a member of this wonderful owners club. I hope you have a few minutes to read it when it pops up.

Thanks again,

Alex

[hsfrank]

Well, my TTDJ is a D with a clasp OP4 so that coincides. I bought it from an AD going out of business December last year. So that could have been sitting on his shelf for a while. However, in May of last year I bought my GMTIIC from another AD who just got them in that day. It was a V with a clasp code of PJ5. I can only assume that the cases and bracelets are manufactured in quantity then filled as needed.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by hsfrank

Well, my TTDJ is a D with a clasp OP4 so that coincides. I bought it from an AD going out of business December last year. So that could have been sitting on his shelf for a while. However, in May of last year I bought my GMTIIC from another AD who just got them in that day. It was a V with a clasp code of PJ5. I can only assume that the cases and bracelets are manufactured in quantity then filled as needed.

Just think how many cases and say oyster bracelets plus say cal 3135 movements are sitting on shelves.Plus the ones at COSC and returning from the COSC after testing.This whole clasp case date is just complete theory nonsense. Because in movements like the cal 3135 now around 450000 a year plus .The actual movement could be older newer or visa versa, and thats the most important bit and not a silly clasp code.