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Dr.Brian · 1 July 2010, 02:50 AM

They just want to make sure that the watch is going out to a good customer. Like sourcing a watch is some kind of reward? However, if you want to flip it so what? You're still a grateful customer, no?
Just tell him that you are not buying it with the intention to try to flip it for a profit. If your word, the word of a good customer, is not good enough, I would not trust his word either. Tell him that and see if he questions your honor to your face. It might cost him a customer for life. And maybe a punch in the gut.

If you publicly question a man's honor in some parts of the world it could cost you your life.

Z-Sub · 1 July 2010, 03:38 PM

not unless they reduce the price by a few hundred dollars to cover your future replacement cost.

ersnyder · 1 July 2010, 02:59 AM

Welcome to TRF, you'll enjoy it here.

If you're OK with this, or actually want the engraving, that's one thing. But to have the AD insist you do it is not good. Friend or not, I'd go womewhere else; TRF Classified first!

Hooper · 1 July 2010, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeRolex

Was browsing this forum and thought I'd ask for member's opinions on the following...

I'm about to pick up a new SS Daytona (2nd new purchase) arriving this week at my local AD. I asked my sales rep. to find me one and he did within 2 months or so. As mentioned, I have purchased a SS Daytona and a YG Presidential from the same sales rep./AD about 10 years ago.

The older Zenith SS Daytona was never serviced and it was a daily watch for me. When I inquired for service along with a new bracelet etc., I was quoted close to $2K. In a nutshell, I sold my SS Daytona and made $900.

I was open and told my sales rep. that I would like to purchase a new SS Daytona asap. because I was going to sell my old one.

Yesterday, he called and said he had one arriving this week but I would need to pay for it in full (done) before he would confirm it was mine. Secondly, he is REQUIRING that he engrave my initials on the back casing as well. Obviously he is trying to guard against me turning around and selling it. I told I don't mind as I have no intention of selling it anytime soon, but am I foolish to agree to the engraving?

Crazinessssssss !! Don't do it

aeRolex · 1 July 2010, 03:02 PM

I caved. I didn't even bother to ask why or request to not have it engraved. I will post pictures after the holiday.

Thanks for all the feedback.

sond86 · 1 July 2010, 03:50 PM

Ya try are not hard to find. I've been offered a black and 2 white
Daytonas in the past month in the bay area

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeRolex

Was browsing this forum and thought I'd ask for member's opinions on the following...

I'm about to pick up a new SS Daytona (2nd new purchase) arriving this week at my local AD. I asked my sales rep. to find me one and he did within 2 months or so. As mentioned, I have purchased a SS Daytona and a YG Presidential from the same sales rep./AD about 10 years ago.

The older Zenith SS Daytona was never serviced and it was a daily watch for me. When I inquired for service along with a new bracelet etc., I was quoted close to $2K. In a nutshell, I sold my SS Daytona and made $900.

I was open and told my sales rep. that I would like to purchase a new SS Daytona asap. because I was going to sell my old one.

Yesterday, he called and said he had one arriving this week but I would need to pay for it in full (done) before he would confirm it was mine. Secondly, he is REQUIRING that he engrave my initials on the back casing as well. Obviously he is trying to guard against me turning around and selling it. I told I don't mind as I have no intention of selling it anytime soon, but am I foolish to agree to the engraving?

rockyn · 1 July 2010, 03:57 PM

Even if you already agreed to the engraving, it is not unreasonable to call him asap and tell him to stuff it. That is a total insult on his part and he has no say in what you do with your watch when you buy it. i know you have no intention of selling it , but if you did , it's none of his business. Tell him to get f%cked.

Zed Homme · 1 July 2010, 04:08 PM

Fwiw there are a lot of SS daytonas for sale right here on TRF. I wouldn't agree to this...

andrew79 · 1 July 2010, 04:21 PM

that's so lame.... AD stupidity that goes far beyond from absurd.

cakim · 1 July 2010, 04:53 PM

Its still the hardest watch to come by. Many would take it under your AD's terms. Get your hands on the watch. Rolex have only made 499 V Series SS Daytonas. Once you have the watch, you can always have the back case changed. In anycase - do not pass on a V series SS Daytona!

Enjoy it! You are a lucky guy!!

Idle Swede · 2 July 2010, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakim

Its still the hardest watch to come by. Many would take it under your AD's terms. Get your hands on the watch. Rolex have only made 499 V Series SS Daytonas. Once you have the watch, you can always have the back case changed. In anycase - do not pass on a V series SS Daytona!

Enjoy it! You are a lucky guy!!

And you know this how?

Welshwatchman · 3 July 2010, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakim

Its still the hardest watch to come by. Many would take it under your AD's terms. Get your hands on the watch. Rolex have only made 499 V Series SS Daytonas. Once you have the watch, you can always have the back case changed. In anycase - do not pass on a V series SS Daytona!

Enjoy it! You are a lucky guy!!

Only someone based in the factory would know that.

Specifically someone in the distribution dept.

Anything else is heresay.

I'm guessing they made 8-10,000 V serials 116520, similar to Z, M etc.

Naples09 · 2 July 2010, 12:01 AM

Go back in next week and tell him you flipped it on ebay for $13K. Then ask how long it would take him to get you another one.

dannyp · 2 July 2010, 01:34 AM

I would call him and tell him you changed your mind on the engraving. If they say "too bad, it's already done" then tell him you're a man of your word, you'll accept the watch but will never be quite happy with it which will ensure:

1. You'll offload it in short order

2. There will not be a fourth purchase from him, ever

I'd have cancelled the purchase the second I was informed of that requirement, I absolutely HATE engravings on a watch.

2th Dr · 2 July 2010, 01:40 AM

No frikkin way!

I'd pass on it and buy one from one of the great guys here!

ersnyder · 2 July 2010, 03:34 AM

Last night I browsed through an AD in SoCal and he offered me a good deal on a SS Daytona as a "package deal" along with a piece of jewelry my wife was buying. His comment was , "You should buy this and then go sell it for $13K!" It made me laugh out loud because I had read this thread earlier in the day.

I guess some AD's like to sell watches while others like to be Rolex AD's!

phiengin · 2 July 2010, 04:34 AM

No way...don't agree with the engraving.
if you are in the bay area, I can find you a BNIB Daytona.

petespendthrift · 2 July 2010, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeRolex

... I sold my SS Daytona and made $900...

It's not entirely clear what you mean and I hope that you are referring to profit rather than trade in value. What I can say though, is that if you have just sold a Zenith Daytona (unserviced and knackered strap or not) for $900 then you have been a complete and utter plonker and must immediately go back to the AD where you should attempt to deliver a firm, straight armed punch to the manager's nose. Make sure you rotate through the hips for a good follow through to deliver maximum force and follow it up with a kick to the testicles when he's on the floor.

aeRolex · 3 July 2010, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petespendthrift

It's not entirely clear what you mean and I hope that you are referring to profit rather than trade in value. What I can say though, is that if you have just sold a Zenith Daytona (unserviced and knackered strap or not) for $900 then you have been a complete and utter plonker and must immediately go back to the AD where you should attempt to deliver a firm, straight armed punch to the manager's nose. Make sure you rotate through the hips for a good follow through to deliver maximum force and follow it up with a kick to the testicles when he's on the floor.

Yes, $900 profit. Bought it for list at $5,100 sold for $6,000 to a friend of a friend. I may pass on the "punch" but will remember to rotate the hips the next time I actually need to "deliver maximum force."

Yazo · 3 July 2010, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeRolex

Yes, $900 profit. Bought it for list at $5,100 sold for $6,000 to a friend of a friend. I may pass on the "punch" but will remember to rotate the hips the next time I actually need to "deliver maximum force."

You sold a SS Zenith Daytona for 6 grand? Jesus man, I hope you realize how much you lost on that deal... you could have easily sold it for 9-10 grand - EASY.

I wish you were my friend!

dannyp · 3 July 2010, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yazo

You sold a SS Zenith Daytona for 6 grand? Jesus man, I hope you realize how much you lost on that deal... you could have easily sold it for 9-10 grand - EASY.

I wish you were my friend!

Well, if it required $2k in service then it really would only have gone for $7-8k assuming a working one would go for 9-10.

aeRolex · 3 July 2010, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yazo

You sold a SS Zenith Daytona for 6 grand? Jesus man, I hope you realize how much you lost on that deal... you could have easily sold it for 9-10 grand - EASY.

I wish you were my friend!

$9K-$10K? Wow! I did lose out then. For me, I didn't want the hassle of trying to get top dollar. If it was as easy as 2 phone calls and a handshake, I'd do it. But to put it on ebay or Craiglslist or wherever and have to possibly ship, schedule a meeting with potential buyer(s), email, phone calls etc... not for me. I used it for a long time and am happy to have a new one.

It was less than pristine that's for sure. I wore it daily (pretty much) for 10-11 years or so. It was working fine, the only issue for me was that if I didn't want to pay that much for a new bracelet and service. The price I sold it for made sense to me to just get a new one.

davestan · 3 July 2010, 05:32 PM

It's hard to believe that some AD's apparently still insist on this. It is clearly a defacement. I thought it was a thing of the past. New casebacks aren't cheap either! Well and good if you want it engraved/personalised but for them to insist as a condition of sale is pretty outrageous.

Andad · 2 July 2010, 06:42 PM

Ummm, no, that is not what he meant.

HL65 · 2 July 2010, 07:30 PM

I would never allow them to do that. I have heard of AD's that do that--I would telll him to keep the watch--find another--plenty out there if you look hard enough! That is crazy IMHO.

RRGHOST1 · 3 July 2010, 05:31 AM

I know you have let him engrave it,but what if you had intended it to be given away as a present,i am sure they would have been made up to have your initials all over it.

PeteNYC13 · 3 July 2010, 06:15 AM

No F'in way!
If you are buying it, they can't dictate that you engrave it.

Why do the AD's make it so difficult to defend them!?
They are not doing you a favor charging you full price for the watch and then telling you that you can't sell it. If I buy a Ferrari tomorrow and want to flip it, does the dealer have the right to pinstripe my name on the door - Bull Sh*t.

Imagine a waiter taking your order but then saying the cook will only prepare your steak if you agree to eat it medium rare with the toppings of their choice - you would walk out, correct?

Tell them to keep the watch, even if they come off their demands, I would walk on principle. If they think that you are going to flip it, tell them to keep it in the case until they are confident that "Their Daytona" is going to a good no flipping home. The nerve of them to ask such a thing and show they don't trust you by demanding they engrave your name. INSANE!

This is one AD that should get the stay away treatment.

drtooth73 · 3 July 2010, 06:17 AM

requirement of an engraving? whats next- you gotta get a Rolex tattoo?

wsaraceni · 3 July 2010, 06:37 AM

all i can say is wow. its your watch and your money but i wouldnt want any ingraving on mine and i think it would devalue the watch too much for me.

dannyp · 3 July 2010, 11:08 AM

So after seeing all the "don't do it" replies on here did you go back and tell them to halt the engraving?

1 July 2010, 02:50 AM	#1
Dr.Brian 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: CA dreamin' Watch: ing the market. Posts: 5,906	They just want to make sure that the watch is going out to a good customer. Like sourcing a watch is some kind of reward? However, if you want to flip it so what? You're still a grateful customer, no? Just tell him that you are not buying it with the intention to try to flip it for a profit. If your word, the word of a good customer, is not good enough, I would not trust his word either. Tell him that and see if he questions your honor to your face. It might cost him a customer for life. And maybe a punch in the gut. If you publicly question a man's honor in some parts of the world it could cost you your life. __________________ -Brian AUDENTES FORTUNA IUVAT 十人十色

1 July 2010, 03:38 PM	#2
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	not unless they reduce the price by a few hundred dollars to cover your future replacement cost. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

1 July 2010, 04:21 PM	#9
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	that's so lame.... AD stupidity that goes far beyond from absurd. __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

2 July 2010, 04:34 AM	#17
phiengin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Watch: 1680, 1675 Posts: 343	No! No way...don't agree with the engraving. if you are in the bay area, I can find you a BNIB Daytona.

2 July 2010, 06:42 PM	#24
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	Ummm, no, that is not what he meant. __________________ E

1 July 2010, 02:59 AM	#3
ersnyder 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: Long Beach CA USA Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 4,102	Welcome to TRF, you'll enjoy it here. If you're OK with this, or actually want the engraving, that's one thing. But to have the AD insist you do it is not good. Friend or not, I'd go womewhere else; TRF Classified first!

1 July 2010, 03:02 PM	#5
aeRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: bay area Posts: 10	I caved. I didn't even bother to ask why or request to not have it engraved. I will post pictures after the holiday. Thanks for all the feedback.

1 July 2010, 03:57 PM	#7
rockyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Robyn Location: nanaimo canada Watch: GMT IIc Posts: 479	Even if you already agreed to the engraving, it is not unreasonable to call him asap and tell him to stuff it. That is a total insult on his part and he has no say in what you do with your watch when you buy it. i know you have no intention of selling it , but if you did , it's none of his business. Tell him to get f%cked.

1 July 2010, 04:08 PM	#8
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	Fwiw there are a lot of SS daytonas for sale right here on TRF. I wouldn't agree to this...

1 July 2010, 04:53 PM	#10
cakim Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 78	Its still the hardest watch to come by. Many would take it under your AD's terms. Get your hands on the watch. Rolex have only made 499 V Series SS Daytonas. Once you have the watch, you can always have the back case changed. In anycase - do not pass on a V series SS Daytona! Enjoy it! You are a lucky guy!!

2 July 2010, 12:01 AM	#13
Naples09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,795	Go back in next week and tell him you flipped it on ebay for $13K. Then ask how long it would take him to get you another one.

2 July 2010, 01:34 AM	#14
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	I would call him and tell him you changed your mind on the engraving. If they say "too bad, it's already done" then tell him you're a man of your word, you'll accept the watch but will never be quite happy with it which will ensure: 1. You'll offload it in short order 2. There will not be a fourth purchase from him, ever I'd have cancelled the purchase the second I was informed of that requirement, I absolutely HATE engravings on a watch.

2 July 2010, 01:40 AM	#15
2th Dr Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Mark-O! Location: Arlington, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 12,714	No frikkin way! I'd pass on it and buy one from one of the great guys here!

2 July 2010, 03:34 AM	#16
ersnyder 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: Long Beach CA USA Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 4,102	Last night I browsed through an AD in SoCal and he offered me a good deal on a SS Daytona as a "package deal" along with a piece of jewelry my wife was buying. His comment was , "You should buy this and then go sell it for $13K!" It made me laugh out loud because I had read this thread earlier in the day. I guess some AD's like to sell watches while others like to be Rolex AD's!

3 July 2010, 05:32 PM	#23
davestan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 504	It's hard to believe that some AD's apparently still insist on this. It is clearly a defacement. I thought it was a thing of the past. New casebacks aren't cheap either! Well and good if you want it engraved/personalised but for them to insist as a condition of sale is pretty outrageous.

2 July 2010, 07:30 PM	#25
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,008	I would never allow them to do that. I have heard of AD's that do that--I would telll him to keep the watch--find another--plenty out there if you look hard enough! That is crazy IMHO. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

3 July 2010, 05:31 AM	#26
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,997	I know you have let him engrave it,but what if you had intended it to be given away as a present,i am sure they would have been made up to have your initials all over it.

3 July 2010, 06:15 AM	#27
PeteNYC13 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Pete Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,607	No F'in way! If you are buying it, they can't dictate that you engrave it. Why do the AD's make it so difficult to defend them!? They are not doing you a favor charging you full price for the watch and then telling you that you can't sell it. If I buy a Ferrari tomorrow and want to flip it, does the dealer have the right to pinstripe my name on the door - Bull Sh*t. Imagine a waiter taking your order but then saying the cook will only prepare your steak if you agree to eat it medium rare with the toppings of their choice - you would walk out, correct? Tell them to keep the watch, even if they come off their demands, I would walk on principle. If they think that you are going to flip it, tell them to keep it in the case until they are confident that "Their Daytona" is going to a good no flipping home. The nerve of them to ask such a thing and show they don't trust you by demanding they engrave your name. INSANE! This is one AD that should get the stay away treatment. __________________ SS Submariner K16610 SS Submariner F16610LV SS/P Yachtmaster M16622 SS Black Dial Daytona M116520 SS Explorer II D16570

3 July 2010, 06:17 AM	#28
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	requirement of an engraving? whats next- you gotta get a Rolex tattoo?

3 July 2010, 06:37 AM	#29
wsaraceni Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: US Posts: 169	all i can say is wow. its your watch and your money but i wouldnt want any ingraving on mine and i think it would devalue the watch too much for me.

3 July 2010, 11:08 AM	#30
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	So after seeing all the "don't do it" replies on here did you go back and tell them to halt the engraving?

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