Tudor to have in-house Movements!

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by Zed Homme

Are you sure? Seems like that would put them in the same range as rolex...

It seems a year or so ago I read that. Can't remember if it was from a Basel announcement, or a Watchtime article. It may have been when James Dowling interviewed Rolex executives a year or so ago and posted it on another forum.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Dweller of the Sea

Its wrong to call ETA in-house. ETA doesn´t produce watches, so there is "no house for the in". ETA is a movement factory. With your glasses, all Swatch Group brands will have an in-house movement when they use ETA. Or the the Omega Speedmasters with the 186x are with Breguet movements, because Lemania doesn´t exist anymore, Lemania is today taken over by Manufacture Breguet.

You could say the the same for Aegler they only make movements,But now as Rolex owns Aegler who now put them into the Rolex made cases.

Watch Manufactures.


1.Mainly own designs and manufactures all major components of every watch in-house.

Rolex. (Shock kif system, escapements hairsprings out sourced and crystals?) Update now use in some models
own in-house hairsprings and paraflex shock system and now own the crystal manufacture side but still out source mainsprings.

Glashütte Original/Union Glashütte (not sure about the crystals)

Harry Winston Fine Timepieces (with collaborators help)

Seiko. make everything in-house.

Urwerk. (even crystals designed all in-house)

2.Design and manufactures every movement in-house, but uses suppliers for cases, dials,crystals, etc.

A. Lange & Sohne. (big date mechanism designed by JLC)

Blancpain.

Breguet.

Citizen.

Philippe Dufour.

Girard-Perregaux.

Jaeger-LeCoultre.

F.P. Journe.

Richard Mille.

Patek Philippe. But even Patek Philippe never made their own movements till the middle 30s.And still use a modded
Lemania's Cal. 2310 as a base for some of there two register m/wind chronographs


Piaget.

Zenith.

3. Designs and manufactures most movements in-house, but also uses supplied movements mostly ETA Based and Lemania.

Audemars Piguet.

Parmigiani.

Roger Dubuis.

Vacheron Constantin. uses Lemania's Cal. 2310 as a base
ebauche to some of there M/wind cronos

4.Designs and manufactures some movements in-house, but mostly uses supplied ebauches then rework movements.

Chopard.

Ulysse Nardin.

Panerai.

5.Manufactures who use supplied ébauche or base movement, but do extensive and substantial in-house modification to movement, that a unique finished movement, only to that said manufacture results.
IWC now state they have designed a new movement.

Svend Andersen.

D. Dornblüth & Sohne.

IWC.

Paul Gerber.

Nomos.

Daniel Roth.

6. Designs and manufactures at least most movements in- house group, but uses other suppliers for cases, dials, etc.

Jacquet Droz.

Longines.

Omega.

Tissot.

Breitling.


7. Begins with supplied movements, but does additional finishing in-house or in-house-group.

Stowa/Jorg Schauer

8.Designs a few movements, receives completed movements, and assembles at least some watches in-house, but most out sourced.

Chronoswiss.
Tag Heuer.

9.Outsources all aspects of manufacturing.

All fashion brands.

10.Poljot. now produce all in-house movements,for chrono
range.

The Chronograph P3133 is based on the Swiss Valjoux 7734 movement,they bought the old tooling and rights.The Val 7734 was
in production from 1969-78 less than 2 million were made.Then the
Russian Poljot firm modified the Val 7734 into the P3133


But most movements that Poljot uses are based on popular Swiss movements,plus today in some of there watches,they use full ETA movements like the 2824.

The P3133 is based on the Valjoux 7734 movement.

The P2612 is based on the AS 1475 (alarm) movement
17-18 Jewel M/W




Below are the technical data of the Valjoux 7734, and a comparison with the Poljot 3133 after the modification.


Valjoux 7734-------------- Poljot 3133
Winding. Handwind.----------- Handwind.

Jewels. 17. ============ 23.

A/h. 18000. ---------- 21600.

P/R 36 hours-------------- 42 hours.

[Rodmo]

Thanks Padi for the excellent summation.

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by Rodmo

Thanks Padi for the excellent summation.

X2


"Seiko. make everything in-house." (yeah I know, I'm a Seiko fan... )

Cheers,
Joe