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bayerische · 15 February 2011, 07:10 AM

That EXP2 is a MUST HAVE!

Jocke · 15 February 2011, 07:12 AM

I already got my one, I've got the rare one with the old style 24 hours hand.

Gundam · 15 February 2011, 07:19 AM

Will these first batch booklets for the new Sub be collectible due to the printing errors?

Cru Jones · 15 February 2011, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gundam

Will these first batch booklets for the new Sub be collectible due to the printing errors?

no, rolex is a business....they will not just lose money on a printing run. so, the two o'clock marker has to go on the new watch for at least the first production batch.

Fiery · 15 February 2011, 07:29 AM

Regardless of the authenticity of those booklets, I'd be happy to see both new models rolled out some 40 days from now. I'm already playing with the idea of getting a Sub NoDate...

TheDude · 15 February 2011, 07:53 AM

I'm looking forward to the ND too. I hope the small crown and missing pip aren't part of the design.

psikat · 15 February 2011, 09:41 AM

Does the new Eplorer II get a triplock crown? And orange GMT hand in the white version only?

Saxon007 · 15 February 2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by psikat

Does the new Eplorer II get a triplock crown? And orange GMT hand in the white version only?

I would say 1. Almost certainly and 2. No, a black dial will be available.

But it is just a guess, I honestly have no idea.

sea-dweller · 15 February 2011, 10:07 AM

Thanks!

cgjane · 15 February 2011, 10:26 AM

I am glad I waited to buy a Polar EXP II... really digging the Orange hand! wowowowowow.

Gundam · 15 February 2011, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiery

Regardless of the authenticity of those booklets, I'd be happy to see both new models rolled out some 40 days from now. I'm already playing with the idea of getting a Sub NoDate...

Which - if a new Sub debuts at Basel 2011 - means the current COSC 14060m will have been in production for little more than 3 years (late 2007 - early 2011)

Sub'erman · 15 February 2011, 12:54 PM

No pip nor 2 marker on my newly arrived sub booklet...

Just noticed; no date either!!!
It is a 116610 LN purchased at one of the biggest Ads in Scandinavia...

JJ Irani · 15 February 2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by darthmouse

Where is the pearl on the no date?

Good point there!!

JJ Irani · 15 February 2011, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub'erman

No pip nor 2 marker on my newly arrived sub booklet...

Just noticed; no date either!!!
It is a 116610 LN purchased at one of the biggest Ads in Scandinavia...

Very strange indeed. If it's a diver's watch, it much have the sapphire pearl covering the small Luminova dot.

JJ

xelor63 · 15 February 2011, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub'erman

No pip nor 2 marker on my newly arrived sub booklet...

Just noticed; no date either!!!
It is a 116610 LN purchased at one of the biggest Ads in Scandinavia...

Do you have some pics from the inside off the booklet

XELOR

Alessi156 · 15 February 2011, 06:13 PM

Looks legit to me as well. I also doubt someone would photoshop a booklet. These may be samples, rather than the approved final version.

Flyjet601 · 15 February 2011, 06:57 PM

The hands on the ND Sub look too short

(...oh no...not again!!)

Psmith · 15 February 2011, 06:58 PM

The embossed booklet cover images are 'stylised' and not supposed to be accurate, detailed depictions. There is much detail not shown - no text, minute track, cyclops, etc. Rather like some of the AD window displays.

Great to see you JJ

Psmith · 15 February 2011, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub'erman

No pip nor 2 marker on my newly arrived sub booklet...

Just noticed; no date either!!!
It is a 116610 LN purchased at one of the biggest Ads in Scandinavia...

Looks like they gave you the incorrect booklet i.e. not the Submariner Date booklet.

Sub'erman · 15 February 2011, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xelor63

Do you have some pics from the inside off the booklet

XELOR

I'll take some later today...

Sub'erman · 15 February 2011, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

Looks like they gave you the incorrect booklet i.e. not the Submariner Date booklet.

Hope not.
Just mailed my AD for an explanation...

ally · 15 February 2011, 07:38 PM

I wonder how much the ND Sub will cost if it has a ceramic bezel ?

The current UK price for the ND is £3920 there is usally around a £1000 diffrence between the ND & Date Sub, so this would have to make the ND C not far from the price of the Date Sub

Gundam · 15 February 2011, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally

I wonder how much the ND Sub will cost if it has a ceramic bezel ?

The current UK price for the ND is £3920 there is usally around a £1000 diffrence between the ND & Date Sub, so this would have to make the ND C not far from the price of the Date Sub

Previously, there was normally only a few hundred £s difference between the (non ceramic) Date & the ND.

If the ND gets a ceramic upgrade, shouldn't it go back to the same price differential, in which case I should expect it to be mid-4k?

TheDude · 15 February 2011, 10:10 PM

Now that the ND booklet is starting to look real, I'm shocked that there isn't a bigger outcry about the crown. This is clearly something new for the contemporary (last several decades) Submariner. Either we're looking at a brilliant bit of new technology, or we're looking at a downgrade.

Psmith · 15 February 2011, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psikat

Does the new Eplorer II get a triplock crown? And orange GMT hand in the white version only?

I think it may have a 'large' Twinlock, like the Milgauss, and that the orange hand will be on both the white and black dial versions.

Psmith · 15 February 2011, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDude

Now that the ND booklet is starting to look real, I'm shocked that there isn't a bigger outcry about the crown. This is clearly something new for the contemporary (last several decades) Submariner. Either we're looking at a brilliant bit of new technology, or we're looking at a downgrade.

We won't really know until Basel, but I would find it interesting if Rolex use a different crown and bezel insert for the ND. It is possible that they wish to differentiate it from the date model, but I find it hard to believe they would (for example) decrease the depth rating.

TheDude · 15 February 2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Psmith

... but I find it hard to believe they would (for example) decrease the depth rating.

Agreed. That means that this might be a new crown that can rate to the Triplock's depth without the bulk.

JIFF1975 · 15 February 2011, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

The embossed booklet cover images are 'stylised' and not supposed to be accurate, detailed depictions. There is much detail not shown - no text, minute track, cyclops, etc. Rather like some of the AD window displays.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

Looks like they gave you the incorrect booklet i.e. not the Submariner Date booklet.

x 2

Sub'erman · 16 February 2011, 03:59 AM

Just had an other look at the booklet...
It is a booklet for a Sub ND 14060M...
They have given me the wrong one...

Sub'erman · 16 February 2011, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDude

Now that the ND booklet is starting to look real, I'm shocked that there isn't a bigger outcry about the crown. This is clearly something new for the contemporary (last several decades) Submariner. Either we're looking at a brilliant bit of new technology, or we're looking at a downgrade.

My booklet pictured above is the one for the current Sub ND 14060M COSC movement... No mystery there...
It is not a sneakpeak on a future model...

Mystery solved?? Cancel the riot!!!

15 February 2011, 07:10 AM	#31
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15 February 2011, 09:41 AM	#37
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15 February 2011, 10:26 AM	#40
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15 February 2011, 07:19 AM	#33
Gundam "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK / HK Posts: 188	Will these first batch booklets for the new Sub be collectible due to the printing errors?

15 February 2011, 07:29 AM	#35
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	Regardless of the authenticity of those booklets, I'd be happy to see both new models rolled out some 40 days from now. I'm already playing with the idea of getting a Sub NoDate...

15 February 2011, 07:53 AM	#36
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	I'm looking forward to the ND too. I hope the small crown and missing pip aren't part of the design.

15 February 2011, 12:54 PM	#42
Sub'erman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: SK Location: Greenland Watch: Various SUBs Posts: 473	No pip nor 2 marker on my newly arrived sub booklet... Just noticed; no date either!!! It is a 116610 LN purchased at one of the biggest Ads in Scandinavia... __________________ Founder and CEO of the "BLUME" Club Rolex ref: 14060 - 92', 16600- 06', 116610LN 11' In Da House!! He who only loves one woman and one watch, doesn't truly love women or watches!! "Not all that is countable, counts; and not all that counts, is countable"

15 February 2011, 06:13 PM	#46
Alessi156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Los/Lon Posts: 116	Looks legit to me as well. I also doubt someone would photoshop a booklet. These may be samples, rather than the approved final version.

15 February 2011, 06:57 PM	#47
Flyjet601 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hong Kong Watch: All of them Posts: 2,789	The hands on the ND Sub look too short (...oh no...not again!!) __________________ I used to be indecisive, now I'm not sure

15 February 2011, 06:58 PM	#48
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	The embossed booklet cover images are 'stylised' and not supposed to be accurate, detailed depictions. There is much detail not shown - no text, minute track, cyclops, etc. Rather like some of the AD window displays. Great to see you JJ __________________

15 February 2011, 07:38 PM	#52
ally "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Alan Location: london Watch: Explorer II Posts: 790	I wonder how much the ND Sub will cost if it has a ceramic bezel ? The current UK price for the ND is £3920 there is usally around a £1000 diffrence between the ND & Date Sub, so this would have to make the ND C not far from the price of the Date Sub __________________ 14060M Explorer II TT DJ. 16610 LV.

15 February 2011, 10:10 PM	#54
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	Now that the ND booklet is starting to look real, I'm shocked that there isn't a bigger outcry about the crown. This is clearly something new for the contemporary (last several decades) Submariner. Either we're looking at a brilliant bit of new technology, or we're looking at a downgrade. Attached Images

16 February 2011, 03:59 AM	#59
Sub'erman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: SK Location: Greenland Watch: Various SUBs Posts: 473	Just had an other look at the booklet... It is a booklet for a Sub ND 14060M... They have given me the wrong one... __________________ Founder and CEO of the "BLUME" Club Rolex ref: 14060 - 92', 16600- 06', 116610LN 11' In Da House!! He who only loves one woman and one watch, doesn't truly love women or watches!! "Not all that is countable, counts; and not all that counts, is countable"

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