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harrishc · 25 July 2011, 09:04 PM

nice father and son

le_baroudeur · 25 July 2011, 10:22 PM

Love classic case sub !

z32turbo · 26 July 2011, 03:41 AM

Great comparison shots!!!!!

capote · 26 July 2011, 03:45 AM

Rolex has really taken a weird path with the DSSD. Can't believe the same company has produced these two watches. ND sub is great looking.

herdinoh · 26 July 2011, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by snowpea

the DSSD is huge, but love it want one.

+1, the more I look at it, the more I like it.

landroverking · 26 July 2011, 03:53 AM

Cool pics. I would take the ND Sub over the paper weight seven days a week.

Mutlu · 26 July 2011, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by capote

Rolex has really taken a weird path with the DSSD. Can't believe the same company has produced these two watches. ND sub is great looking.

Strange comment, as Rolex has proven that they are not just all about show but about ability to create a true diver's watch.

I still don't understand why Rolex owners would not like the DSSD, especially when it makes all of the other Rolex watches look much better now.

Paracentesis · 26 July 2011, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutlu

Strange comment, as Rolex has proven that they are not just all about show but about ability to create a true diver's watch.

They did that already with the Sub and SeaDweller. The DSSD is an answer looking for a question: IOW, it's completely redundant, especially these days with dive computers in almost universal use. Aesthetically, it's a bit of mess as well, IMO.

The 14060 looks as good as ever.

Mutlu · 26 July 2011, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Paracentesis

They did that already with the Sub and SeaDweller. The DSSD is an answer looking for a question: IOW, it's completely redundant, especially these days with dive computers in almost universal use. Aesthetically, it's a bit of mess as well, IMO.

The 14060 looks as good as ever.

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.
If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

TSW · 26 July 2011, 05:26 AM

Great comparison pics!

Grumpy Badger · 26 July 2011, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutlu

Strange comment, as Rolex has proven that they are not just all about show but about ability to create a true diver's watch.

I still don't understand why Rolex owners would not like the DSSD, especially when it makes all of the other Rolex watches look much better now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutlu

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.
If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

In your original post you talked about a "true divers watch"...

In your second you are speaking about aesthetics and your preference for bigger watches.

I agree with James that the Sub and old SD were all a diver would even need and are true tool watches.

The DSSD may be an impressive piece of engineering but does not serve any purpose as a divers tool watch that isn't already covered by the Sub or the old SD.

capote · 26 July 2011, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutlu

Strange comment, as Rolex has proven that they are not just all about show but about ability to create a true diver's watch.

I still don't understand why Rolex owners would not like the DSSD, especially when it makes all of the other Rolex watches look much better now.

Come to think of it the DSSD is really a step backward.

Paracentesis · 26 July 2011, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutlu

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.
If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

http://www.scubarecords.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_diving

Sub or SD is more than adequate for any diver, and not too bulky.

If you think these watches are "girly", I suspect you are in a very tiny minority of TRF members, but you are of course entitled to your opinion. ;-)

Vernal · 26 July 2011, 08:26 AM

I just wish they made the Submariner with a cyclops-less date, like on the DSSD. I tried on the DSSD, and I thought if I bought it I'd soon look like a southpaw pitcher - the left side of my body would look like the Hulk, the right side would look like Bruce Banner.

Oldwilsonian · 26 July 2011, 08:48 AM

Just find the " original gas escape valve/ring lock system" inscription totally unneccessary - think it detracts from what otherwise would be a real rugged beauty. In fact because of this I am seeking a SD instead of a DSSD... Do love the new style clasp though...

zeppe19avr · 26 July 2011, 09:16 AM

DSSD is very nice but I can see very few people wearing a 5 pound alarm clock on their wrist,

ya know wat I mean

CharlieSF · 26 July 2011, 10:17 AM

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the wife accompanied me to try on the DSSD at an AD here in SF today. I love the DSSD, it's pleasing to look at, I love the size, I love the aggressiveness, but man, this thing is just TOO thick (for my tastes). At 6'2 250 w/ over 7.5 + inch wrist I thought this would be the perfect fit. I love the 44m diameter but the thickness (and weight) are just too much for daily wear. It felt like a paperweight with a beautiful bracelet attached to it. On paper I love this watch, just doesn't work for me personally after trying it on today. Going to continue saving for my GMTIIc. To each his own - the DSSD is still beautiful though.

Power Play · 26 July 2011, 01:37 PM

Really great comparison shots!

And they're both really great watches. I'm sure that they are not both for everyone but I love and wear both on a regular basis. You know, like bermuda shorts one day and twill shorts the next.....

Megalobyte · 26 July 2011, 02:38 PM

I don't dislike the 43-44mm size, I like the overall design of the DeepSea, but, I think it's just far too thick, enough that it looks kind of weird, silly almost, and the relatively thin, strongly tapered bracelet certainly doesn't help.

My Pam 24 is very thick but the DS is noticeably thicker still, as it must be to go down 3900m + 25%. Also, the Pam's 24mm lug width helps it where the deepsea's fairly narrow lug/bracelet width accentuate how thick/tall the watch is.

Which brings me to this: Maybe 3900m wasn't quite necessary.

I wish Rolex had made the DeepSea a 2000m watch, only slightly thicker than the Sub, perhaps 42-43 mm diameter case, less tapered bracelet. Until something along those lines comes to pass, I'll happily wear my girlie Sub C. :)

The pre ceramic Subs did strike me as just a hair too small, for me, I'm 6'8, size 17 feet, so I'm a larger watch kind of guy, but the Sub C surprised me when I tried one on, it didn't look small, not large either, as Goldie Locks might say, it was just right. If the Sub C didn't exist and I had to choose between a 16110 or a DS, i'd probably get the DS and live with the height, but the Sub C does exist, and to me, it's the best of both worlds, and divers.

SeamasterGMT · 26 July 2011, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutlu

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.
If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

Don't worry about people like him. The Deepsea is engineered to a greater depth than the SD4000 and the Sub. Does any diver need 12,800 ft? No.
Does any diver need 4000ft? No. The SD4000 was overkill for any diver. The Deepsea also has a lot of improvements over the old models. Don't get me wrong - I love the SD4000 and would have bought one if the Deepsea had not been launched but a few things would have always bugged me:

The crystal sticks out above the bezel - this makes it prone to chips.
The bezel insert is metal and scratches.
The clasp is crappy compared to other brands.
I would not buy a sub - they're everywhere.
As for looks - I can't see much difference except:
I like the minute markers going all the way to 60.
I like the ceramic bezel.
I like the lack of AR when it's in sunlight.
I LOVE the size including the thickness.

Give me the Deepsea any day - far less common and without a cyclops most people don't know it's a Rolex (this is a plus for me - less show).

SilverSun · 26 July 2011, 10:05 PM

Gosh the DSSD is a beast - great if you have the wrist for it :) although rolex could have made it's bracelet abit thicker as it looks oddly too narrow in proportion to the case IMO

great comparison pics tho :) I love my 14060M

rkammer · 26 July 2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSun

Gosh the DSSD is a beast - great if you have the wrist for it :) although rolex could have made it's bracelet abit thicker as it looks oddly too narrow in proportion to the case IMO

great comparison pics tho :) I love my 14060M

Agree, and in addition, the DSSD bracelet looks like it's actually thinner than the ND Sub in the one shot that shows both bracelets. Is it an illusion or, is it actually thinner?

NYC6 · 26 July 2011, 11:16 PM

Tried the Deep on at an AD some 2 years ago. Way to large and clunky for my taste. Seems like Rolex went over the top to the "look at me" crowd of watches. Trying to hard to impress.

blackout · 27 July 2011, 01:22 AM

I Love my DSSD! As I do my Sub! Cant wait to get my wrist in one of the new "42mm" EXPII's!

dooder202 · 27 July 2011, 01:31 AM

Yeah , the DSSD is a HUGE watch, makes the 14060 look like a toy for a child.

SeamasterGMT · 27 July 2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NYC6

Tried the Deep on at an AD some 2 years ago. Way to large and clunky for my taste. Seems like Rolex went over the top to the "look at me" crowd of watches. Trying to hard to impress.

Too!

Megalobyte · 27 July 2011, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dooder202

Yeah , the DSSD is a HUGE watch, makes the 14060 look like a toy for a child.

How many Chuck E. Cheese tickets is a Sub C anyway?

zak98 · 27 July 2011, 03:20 AM

nice! the 43mm size is perfect. could be a little thinner for my taste, but still love it!

OneMoreSi · 27 July 2011, 03:55 AM

I love how passionate people get about the DSSD - positives and negatives.
You could draw parallels with a Bugatti, a totally over engineered car, struggles with speed bumps, carrying passengers, two tone paint job etc, but you still admire what it is capable of.

Each to their own.

conrail · 27 July 2011, 04:02 AM

WOW that DS is really a monster - I had no idea it was that much chunkier than a Sub. Too chunky for my taste, I'll take the classic-shaped Sub (pre maxi case) all day long.

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26 July 2011, 05:26 AM	#40
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27 July 2011, 03:20 AM	#58
zak98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TN Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,166	nice! the 43mm size is perfect. could be a little thinner for my taste, but still love it! __________________ Z- Submariner; P- Airking; R- DateJust; M- GMTII; C0 - Milgauss GV Breitling SuperOcean Heritage 46 Omega Speedmaster Racing Panerai PAM390

27 July 2011, 04:02 AM	#60
conrail "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 3,177	WOW that DS is really a monster - I had no idea it was that much chunkier than a Sub. Too chunky for my taste, I'll take the classic-shaped Sub (pre maxi case) all day long. __________________ "Oh, you give a f****' aspirin a headache, pal!"

25 July 2011, 09:04 PM	#31
harrishc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: HK Posts: 176	nice father and son

26 July 2011, 03:45 AM	#34
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	Rolex has really taken a weird path with the DSSD. Can't believe the same company has produced these two watches. ND sub is great looking.

26 July 2011, 03:53 AM	#36
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Cool pics. I would take the ND Sub over the paper weight seven days a week.

26 July 2011, 08:26 AM	#44
Vernal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mid-Atlantic Watch: 116610LV Posts: 192	I just wish they made the Submariner with a cyclops-less date, like on the DSSD. I tried on the DSSD, and I thought if I bought it I'd soon look like a southpaw pitcher - the left side of my body would look like the Hulk, the right side would look like Bruce Banner.

26 July 2011, 08:48 AM	#45
Oldwilsonian "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 277	Just find the " original gas escape valve/ring lock system" inscription totally unneccessary - think it detracts from what otherwise would be a real rugged beauty. In fact because of this I am seeking a SD instead of a DSSD... Do love the new style clasp though...

26 July 2011, 09:16 AM	#46
zeppe19avr Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Sea-dweller Z ser. Posts: 67	DSSD is very nice but I can see very few people wearing a 5 pound alarm clock on their wrist, ya know wat I mean

26 July 2011, 10:17 AM	#47
CharlieSF "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: CA Watch: 116710 Posts: 237	As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the wife accompanied me to try on the DSSD at an AD here in SF today. I love the DSSD, it's pleasing to look at, I love the size, I love the aggressiveness, but man, this thing is just TOO thick (for my tastes). At 6'2 250 w/ over 7.5 + inch wrist I thought this would be the perfect fit. I love the 44m diameter but the thickness (and weight) are just too much for daily wear. It felt like a paperweight with a beautiful bracelet attached to it. On paper I love this watch, just doesn't work for me personally after trying it on today. Going to continue saving for my GMTIIc. To each his own - the DSSD is still beautiful though.

26 July 2011, 01:37 PM	#48
Power Play "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 473	Really great comparison shots! And they're both really great watches. I'm sure that they are not both for everyone but I love and wear both on a regular basis. You know, like bermuda shorts one day and twill shorts the next.....

26 July 2011, 02:38 PM	#49
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	I don't dislike the 43-44mm size, I like the overall design of the DeepSea, but, I think it's just far too thick, enough that it looks kind of weird, silly almost, and the relatively thin, strongly tapered bracelet certainly doesn't help. My Pam 24 is very thick but the DS is noticeably thicker still, as it must be to go down 3900m + 25%. Also, the Pam's 24mm lug width helps it where the deepsea's fairly narrow lug/bracelet width accentuate how thick/tall the watch is. Which brings me to this: Maybe 3900m wasn't quite necessary. I wish Rolex had made the DeepSea a 2000m watch, only slightly thicker than the Sub, perhaps 42-43 mm diameter case, less tapered bracelet. Until something along those lines comes to pass, I'll happily wear my girlie Sub C. :) The pre ceramic Subs did strike me as just a hair too small, for me, I'm 6'8, size 17 feet, so I'm a larger watch kind of guy, but the Sub C surprised me when I tried one on, it didn't look small, not large either, as Goldie Locks might say, it was just right. If the Sub C didn't exist and I had to choose between a 16110 or a DS, i'd probably get the DS and live with the height, but the Sub C does exist, and to me, it's the best of both worlds, and divers.

26 July 2011, 10:05 PM	#51
SilverSun Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: uk Posts: 30	Gosh the DSSD is a beast - great if you have the wrist for it :) although rolex could have made it's bracelet abit thicker as it looks oddly too narrow in proportion to the case IMO great comparison pics tho :) I love my 14060M

26 July 2011, 11:16 PM	#53
NYC6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: L.I./N.Y. Watch: SUBMARINER 14060M Posts: 2,769	Tried the Deep on at an AD some 2 years ago. Way to large and clunky for my taste. Seems like Rolex went over the top to the "look at me" crowd of watches. Trying to hard to impress.

27 July 2011, 01:22 AM	#54
blackout "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Everywhere Watch: SubC LN & LV Posts: 743	I Love my DSSD! As I do my Sub! Cant wait to get my wrist in one of the new "42mm" EXPII's!

27 July 2011, 01:31 AM	#55
dooder202 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: US Watch: DateJust Posts: 1,468	Yeah , the DSSD is a HUGE watch, makes the 14060 look like a toy for a child.

27 July 2011, 03:55 AM	#59
OneMoreSi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: London Watch: DSSD,Explorer,GMT Posts: 150	I love how passionate people get about the DSSD - positives and negatives. You could draw parallels with a Bugatti, a totally over engineered car, struggles with speed bumps, carrying passengers, two tone paint job etc, but you still admire what it is capable of. Each to their own.

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