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Old 17 August 2011, 06:19 AM   #31
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They all tend to be the same RRP whether in Harrods, Selfridges, Bond St or anywhere else. It's then just down to individual negotiation with the store in question. But in my experience, Harrods are least likely to budge on prices, whereas because of the increased competition in Bond St, you stand a much better chance of getting some discount. Whether this applies to the Daytona I can't say as "heathen as I may be" I can't handle the lack of date......so didn't get to the wallet opening
Thank you for your reply Jack, the reason i asked was that i saw one in Duggans, year 2010 for £1000 over list, why ?
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Old 17 August 2011, 06:28 AM   #32
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OK! My favorite topic.... All I am going to say on this one, is if the OP desires to purchase his Rolex from an AD, STOP CRITICIZING HIM!!!!!! I have nothing but respect for Greg (Mosco), DavidSW, Tony (JustRolexes), and many other of the sellers on this forum. I know Tony personally and have the utmost of faith in any dealings with him or any of these guys, if the OP decides to purchase from here on TRF I have no doubt he will be more then satisfied and receive his watch quickly. HOWEVER....

Personally, I relish the experience of walking in to an AD and purchasing my watch; yes, even it it costs me a little more. I won't go in to the reason's why, and for those that make their purchases here or gray dealers more power to you! But IF someone decides to wait so they can enjoy the AD experience, LEAVE EM ALONE!
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Old 17 August 2011, 06:32 AM   #33
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I don't actually think it's as easy as many on here make out IF you have no relationship with an AD. I got mine within about 9 months back in 2009 time which was pretty quick, but I'd bought a good few watches in the previous 2 years...

Wherever I am in the country (or abroad), if I see a Rolex sign, I make a bee line for the shop.. (Much like most on here I would imagine). In 5 years of being an avid Rolex freak, and probably (at a guess) 500-1000 individual viewings of a Rolex shop window, I have NEVER seen a S/S Daytona. In many cases I have also asked the question, and never has there been one 'tucked in the safe'...

There is no doubt they are becoming easier to find, and premiums are near as damn it dead, but it's still not THAT easy just to pick one up from AD at MSRP...
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Old 17 August 2011, 07:04 AM   #34
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You guys ever heard of the McRib locator? It's basically a log of where this seasonal McDonald's sandwich is spotted. We should have one for SS Daytona and it'll solve all the mystery.

http://kleincast.com/maps/mcrib.php
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Old 17 August 2011, 07:11 AM   #35
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Thank you for your reply Jack, the reason i asked was that i saw one in Duggans, year 2010 for £1000 over list, why ?
No idea Paulie but I can tell you that I could buy a new Daytona tomorrow from a whole range of Rolex AD's in central London. I have not been into a single store and not seen a range of Daytona's for sale, SS, TT, WG and YG with white, black, panda, meteorite, slate dials you name it.......Now whether you want a particular dial option that is less common than others maybe that's the reason there could be a waiting list but just call Harrods or the new flagship Rolex store or Selfridges or Watches of Switzerland or Wempe plus a number of others and ask them. I have physically tried on quite a few just in the last few weeks before I decided against it because of the lack of date. I certainly can't see why Duggans of Burlington Arcade would be selling a pre-owned at over list price other than an unusual dial or Zenith movement that is no longer available.

It just seems crazy to me that people are waiting for a Daytona anywhere. I have a photo I took in St Tropez at the weekend of a store window with about 10 in a row. And that's just one store and just the window display!!!
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Old 17 August 2011, 07:45 AM   #36
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Interesting.
I rang 40 AD's a week ago including the London stores and none had any SS models available. Most were not even taking names, but a few were and i put my name down. Time2 were the only AD who don't make a list. When they get one in they put it in the window and first come first serve, but they don't get many and they go very quicky. Several London AD's said I could get one from Burlington Arcade and pay £500 over list
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Old 17 August 2011, 07:56 AM   #37
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I tried all the usual AD's in Bleuwater Westfield and and they all roll there eyes when I ask and most say the list is closed. I didnt even bother with the likes of Selfridges as a couple of months back I got the same response so I gave up looking for one. The problem buying from a trusted seller is they don't normally take credit cards and that how I would like to pay from mine interest free.

If they were that available I don't see how all the greys continue to demand £500+ over RRP.
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Old 17 August 2011, 08:01 AM   #38
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I don't actually think it's as easy as many on here make out IF you have no relationship with an AD. I got mine within about 9 months back in 2009 time which was pretty quick, but I'd bought a good few watches in the previous 2 years...

Wherever I am in the country (or abroad), if I see a Rolex sign, I make a bee line for the shop.. (Much like most on here I would imagine). In 5 years of being an avid Rolex freak, and probably (at a guess) 500-1000 individual viewings of a Rolex shop window, I have NEVER seen a S/S Daytona. In many cases I have also asked the question, and never has there been one 'tucked in the safe'...

There is no doubt they are becoming easier to find, and premiums are near as damn it dead, but it's still not THAT easy just to pick one up from AD at MSRP...
My sentiments entirely.
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Old 17 August 2011, 08:05 AM   #39
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It just seems crazy to me that people are waiting for a Daytona anywhere. I have a photo I took in St Tropez at the weekend of a store window with about 10 in a row. And that's just one store and just the window display!!!
Jack, the watch i am on about is actually on David Duggans website , cheers
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Old 17 August 2011, 08:05 AM   #40
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Interesting.
I rang 40 AD's a week ago including the London stores and none had any SS models available. Most were not even taking names, but a few were and i put my name down. Time2 were the only AD who don't make a list. When they get one in they put it in the window and first come first serve, but they don't get many and they go very quicky. Several London AD's said I could get one from Burlington Arcade and pay £500 over list
Very strange. All I can tell you is what I saw and I am a regular visitor to the places mentioned as I live 20 minutes door to door from Bond St. Burlington Arcade is for vintage and pre-owned and I have not seen many nearly new Daytona's there at all. Although i have seen PN's and 6263's and that era. But there are only about 4 or 5 very small specialist stores down there that sell predominately vintage watches. I would never even consider looking there for a watch less than 5 years old.

I am not sure whether this is a tactic when handling telephone calls to keep the mythical demand up. But I can tell you I had a WG panda dial on my wrist at Harrods two weeks ago and they gave me a SS to try on to compare the weight. I then wandered to Selfridges and saw a display case with perhaps 7-8 Daytona's of various metals and dials. The same down Bond St. Could this be a sales tactic to keep up demand of the SS Daytona in light of the new ceramic on the horizon. I travel a lot and always see Daytona's as with all of the other models available. As I have said, I could have bought 50 at the weekend in the South of France had I been inclined
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Old 17 August 2011, 08:18 AM   #41
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Thank you Dan!!!! Exactly as I have been saying! I am glad that someone is smart enough.... to... to uh.....


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Get a BRAND NEW one from a trusted seller here on the forum, and most likely for or slightly less than, MSRP.
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Not to flame you but show me just one link to a BNIB SS Daytona on sale here for less than MSRP.
I respect any decision if you want to buy from a trusted seller or from an AD but to say that they are on here for less than retail is just not accurate.


And, more than a few people still have a hard time spending $10,000+ on a frequently knocked off item from a total stranger on the internet.

Would you buy a "NEW" BMW from someone on the internet or a BMW dealership?

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In this economy, why do so many people think that AD's are keeping a $10,000 item in the back safe and refusing to sell it? Don't you think that in this market with the pressure from internet sellers and less people with disposable income, they would be likely to sell a $10,000 watch to the first person to walk in with money?! Let alone a "ton" of them in the safe... just sayin.


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Old 17 August 2011, 11:27 AM   #44
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OK! My favorite topic.... All I am going to say on this one, is if the OP desires to purchase his Rolex from an AD, STOP CRITICIZING HIM!!!!!! I have nothing but respect for Greg (Mosco), DavidSW, Tony (JustRolexes), and many other of the sellers on this forum. I know Tony personally and have the utmost of faith in any dealings with him or any of these guys, if the OP decides to purchase from here on TRF I have no doubt he will be more then satisfied and receive his watch quickly. HOWEVER....

Personally, I relish the experience of walking in to an AD and purchasing my watch; yes, even it it costs me a little more. I won't go in to the reason's why, and for those that make their purchases here or gray dealers more power to you! But IF someone decides to wait so they can enjoy the AD experience, LEAVE EM ALONE!
Nicely said Paul !!
I agree 100% and feel the same way about purchasing from an AD.
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Old 17 August 2011, 01:16 PM   #45
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I walked into an AD in Beverly Hills last month, inquired if they had one...they first said no, then came back and said that they indeed had one in stock.

I guess it's really all about timing and a little luck.
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Old 17 August 2011, 01:33 PM   #46
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Was at my local AD today and told them I've been on the lookout for a SS Daytona for close to 3 years now and nothing. They always take my name down and nothing happens. Recently one of the salespeople admitted that as a big multichain AD they still get a few pieces but that those are all snatched up by people working there and perhaps a few VIPs here and there. I mentioned how some people on this forum have no difficulty finding them and there are stories of people finding them at AD's in smaller towns and less populated areas sometimes with discounts. She did state that ADs shouldn't be selling watches over the phone and that they shouldn't be giving discounts. I think this is where things are heading.

OTOH, one of my partners was at a conference in Vegas about 2 years back and walked into one of the Wynn shops where the salesperson brought one out and stated that it had just arrived and that it would sell within a few hours and offered it to him at MSRP. I guess a little luck is involved.

As far as the AD versus non AD, I've purchased 1 Raymond Weil, 1 Tag, and my GMT IIC from this AD and have spent 9k there in a few years. I guess that's not much but I would have thought they would have given me some extra consideration. I don't want somebody fanning me and feeding me grapes but hey, a pleasant experience would be nice. It feels like these guys think they're doing me a huge favor selling me a watch from their case at MSRP. I had my seven year old daughter with me and honestly it wasn't more than 5 minutes before she abruptly stopped talking about watches and asked what I did for a living... and I've bought multiple watches there before and even mentioned it to them.
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Thank you Dan!!!! Exactly as I have been saying! I am glad that someone is smart enough.... to... to uh.....


Horses for Courses ?


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Old 17 August 2011, 05:25 PM   #48
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2 years! You are a patient man my friend. As already stated they are available of AD's in the UK today, so let the hunt begin
but available at £7490 - why not buy here for less

maybe it's because i work for a bank and we have to maximize profits for our shareholders, but i don't understand why someone is willing to pay say 10% more becuase they can't be arsed exploring a more cost effective option thus saving money in the process
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It seems that it is much harder to get a SS Daytona from an AD in the UK than from an AD in North America. My AD in Toronto has 3 SS Daytona's in stock and will discount them. I have given them a bit of business in the past which may help with the discount but any person could walk in off the street and get one for RRP as you call it in UK.

Perhaps the original poster's friend should take a holiday in Toronto if he is really interested in getting a daytona quickly. He may even save the cost of the flight as he will get the local equivalent of the VAT back.

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Hey guys..... so not quite as easy as I thought.....

Having definitely tried on a SS daytona as a comparison to the WG Panda dial I was considering at Harrods two weeks ago and another at Selfridges, I phoned up this morning to prove a point.....

And both Harrods and Selfridges have NO stock of SS Daytona's..... so please accept my apologies guys for being so "Gung Ho" in my earlier posts.

They have quite a few of the other more expensive Daytona models and said they do get SS in every few weeks or so as a one off and just put them on display (so no waiting lists) and sell them. So I must have been lucky when I saw about 4 or 5 on that particular Saturday.... I didn't check anywhere else but possibly the same.

But St Tropez definitely had a few on display at the weekend and lots more in Cannes and Monaco. But maybe its one of those things that when you want one, they are no where to be found and, for me who didn't want one, they were everywhere.....
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Hey guys..... so not quite as easy as I thought.....

Having definitely tried on a SS daytona as a comparison to the WG Panda dial I was considering at Harrods two weeks ago and another at Selfridges, I phoned up this morning to prove a point.....

And both Harrods and Selfridges have NO stock of SS Daytona's..... so please accept my apologies guys for being so "Gung Ho" in my earlier posts.

They have quite a few of the other more expensive Daytona models and said they do get SS in every few weeks or so as a one off and just put them on display (so no waiting lists) and sell them. So I must have been lucky when I saw about 4 or 5 on that particular Saturday.... I didn't check anywhere else but possibly the same.

But St Tropez definitely had a few on display at the weekend and lots more in Cannes and Monaco. But maybe its one of those things that when you want one, they are no where to be found and, for me who didn't want one, they were everywhere.....
harrods has a solid supply of SS Daytonas coming in to cater for the MIddle Eastern crew doing doughnuts in their supercars outside

you just need to catch the sales people and they WILL give you a call on the day your specified watch arrives - but they don't do long lists like other ADs

i cant remember the name of the short chap there but he's really nice. he called me about the DSSD i wanted to try on as he just got another one in and wanted to check with me before he put it in the display

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Thank you for your reply Jack, the reason i asked was that i saw one in Duggans, year 2010 for £1000 over list, why ?
Grey SS is selling for up to £8500 now
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These were some of the ones on display in one shop window in St Tropez. There were as many if not more Daytona's inside and many many stores in Cannes and Monaco with far larger and more impressive displays . By the way, I was too embarrased to take photos inside the store..... Well apart from one of a really nice WG Blue Sub on my wrist
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No stainless steel ones by the look of it.
They definitely had a couple inside ....maybe because everyone buys WG in St Tropez.....
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Hi, I passed on blk face ss daytona earlier in the week mrsp at uk ad, felt the face was too small and cluttered so hard to read...! A bit disappointed with it really...my feeling is the current economic climate is biting hard, the uk is not immune to this, this watch will start to become available as IMO the only thing stopping that happening at the moment is rolex limiting supply to the uk even more than normal. Rolex seem keen to keep the aura of this watch in the uk, people just don't want to spend £7k+ on a watch at the moment in numbers. I'm not sure the demand that was once there is as strong as it once was...depends wether rolex keep restricting this watch into the uk...at the end of the day tho rolex and dealers have got to sell watches which you can't from a safe or rolex factory.

P.S IMO a 40mm case is a bit dated, they need to bring the daytona into 21st century and increase it to at least 42mm. To me more important than a ceramic dial. If they're not careful this watch will fall behind it's competitors, they should have had an update to this watch to keep it at the forefront of the market not pandering to a classic watch brigade...!
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These were some of the ones on display in one shop window in St Tropez. There were as many if not more Daytona's inside and many many stores in Cannes and Monaco with far larger and more impressive displays . By the way, I was too embarrased to take photos inside the store..... Well apart from one of a really nice WG Blue Sub on my wrist
i so very much want the one second from left, top row. it's a beauty indeed!!
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I will personally pay 50 uk pounds to anybody who spots a ss daytona black or White dial either in a AD window or inside the shop and then calls me on my telephone number. When I get to the shop and purchase the watch for list price I will hand over the 50 pounds. Let's see how many of you who are spotting them regularly in ADs are telling the truth and how many of you are getting confused with the White gold model...PM me for mobile number I'm serious...what the hell il pay 100 pounds.....

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I will personally pay 50 uk pounds to anybody who spots a ss daytona black or White dial either in a AD window or inside the shop and then calls me on my telephone number. When I get to the shop and purchase the watch for list price I will hand over the 50 pounds. Let's see how many of you who are spotting them regularly in ADs are telling the truth and how many of you are getting confused with the White gold model...PM me for mobile number I'm serious...what the hell il pay 100 pounds.....

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Sorry guys but I'm not expecting any calls soon lol.....
Fantastic post but I think your £100 is safe!!
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Fantastic post but I think your £100 is safe!!
I hope I don't offend anyone, I post in jest although if I were to receive the call I'm sure as hell would buy!

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