Help with a purchase of a camera

[dnagwhogas]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

That's way too much for a D60.

Some sellers start gouging the hell out of prices on discontinued cameras and such.

Jocke's suggestion is a good one, as he's about as good as they come at that genre, and any of the lower tier dSLRs would be good, too, with the right macro lens.

X2. That's an overpriced D60. I wouldn't pay more than $400 for a D60 body. A used 18-55 lens cost like a hundred bucks now. Anyway, it doesn't matter what kind body you want. The key here for macro shots is the lens. A Nikon 60mm macro or 105mm macro are the best. Just get an entry level body and invest more on the lens....

Hope this helps.

[dnagwhogas]

Originally Posted by JAGERVEGAS

On any of the above suggestions, can you keep the shutter open for an extended period of time so you can take a pic in little or no light. I hope I explained this right. Like if I wanted to do a lume shot in a room with very little light, would it work with just the lume light and pick up a great shot of the dial with just the lume ?
Thanks everyone
Mark

Yes sir. As long as they have Manual settings/Manual exposure mode. It's called "dragging" the shutter speed. You also need a tripod for this, since dragging the shutter or using a slow shutter requires a firm/no shake camera while the shutter is "open". Any movement whatsoever will show (blur/soft/not sharp) on the final image.

[gqllc]

Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

Yes sir. As long as they have Manual settings/Manual exposure mode. It's called "dragging" the shutter speed. You also need a tripod for this, since dragging the shutter or using a slow shutter requires a firm/no shake camera while the shutter is "open". Any movement whatsoever will show (blur/soft/not sharp) on the final image.

You also could use a remote shutter release as well to help prevent movement with the tripod if you use manual shutter. The other way to do this is time delay shutter release but the shutter must be timed to do this

[Passionata]

Originally Posted by gqllc

I have the lx5 and it is my NEW favorite point and shoot. I have been a Canon user since the mid 70's

FW v2.0 already released if you haven t noticed yet

[gqllc]

Originally Posted by Passionata

FW v2.0 already released if you haven t noticed yet

Do I update version from their website?

[gqllc]

Originally Posted by gqllc

Do I update version from their website?

Never mind figured it out! Thanks!

[Runnin' Rebel]

Alright guys, one last question maybe. Does it make sense to buy the body of lets say the Nikon D3100 and then add different Lens to it. What do you think, am I moving in the right direction ? Does it have to be Nikon Lens or can it be a different manufacture of lens ? Does this make sense, or am I'm off base here. And I got that the lens needs to have a cap or something on it (UV filter) when it's not in use to protect it. I'm getting ready to bust a move here.
Thanks everyone
Mark

[matt4hand]

Originally Posted by JAGERVEGAS

Alright guys, one last question maybe. Does it make sense to buy the body of lets say the Nikon D3100 and then add different Lens to it. What do you think, am I moving in the right direction ? Does it have to be Nikon Lens or can it be a different manufacture of lens ? Does this make sense, or am I'm off base here. And I got that the lens needs to have a cap or something on it (UV filter) when it's not in use to protect it. I'm getting ready to bust a move here.
Thanks everyone
Mark

I just want to see video of you busting a move.

From my little experience I think you need to stick to the same brand with lens/body. I'm looking at some macro lenses for my Nikon d60 as we speak

[snowbird]

Originally Posted by JAGERVEGAS

Alright guys, one last question maybe. Does it make sense to buy the body of lets say the Nikon D3100 and then add different Lens to it. What do you think, am I moving in the right direction ? Does it have to be Nikon Lens or can it be a different manufacture of lens ? Does this make sense, or am I'm off base here. And I got that the lens needs to have a cap or something on it (UV filter) when it's not in use to protect it. I'm getting ready to bust a move here.
Thanks everyone
Mark

If it's a Nikon body, you have to use either Nikon lenses, or third party lenses (Sigma, Tamron, etc.) make for Nikon cameras.

One thing to know on the Nikon bodies is that some (higher priced models) have a focusing motor in the body, others (such as the 3100 I believe) don't. With one of the latter, autofocus only works if you use lenses with a focusing motor in the lens, so your choice of lenses is restricted to AF-S models.

Definitely something to be said for keeping it simple in the beginning though . . . if you find you really like photography then you can go crazy on equipment.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by snowbird

One thing to know on the Nikon bodies is that some (higher priced models) have a focusing motor in the body, others (such as the 3100 I believe) don't. With one of the latter, autofocus only works if you use lenses with a focusing motor in the lens, so your choice of lenses is restricted to AF-S models.

You are not limited to AF-S lenses.

The F-mount was introduced in 1959, so that gives you an incredible range of lenses to choose from, albeit many will be discontinued and only available on the used market. You will not have auto-focus on the older lenses, but they will focus manually.

If your primary interest at this time is macro, then you will probably prefer manual focus, regardless of which lens you use.

It is an advantage to have a model with the focus motor in the body, but it is not essential. It simply gives you a broader range of lenses that have full function.

In reality, if you have the macro lens that you choose and a 18-200mm, the likelihood of your needing any other lenses is pretty small.

By the time you reach such a point, you'll probably be ready for a body upgrade and you can choose from cameras like the D-90, the D7000, or whatever models will be available at that time.

[snowbird]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

You are not limited to AF-S lenses.

The F-mount was introduced in 1959, so that gives you an incredible range of lenses to choose from, albeit many will be discontinued and only available on the used market. You will not have auto-focus on the older lenses, but they will focus manually.

If your primary interest at this time is macro, then you will probably prefer manual focus, regardless of which lens you use.

It is an advantage to have a model with the focus motor in the body, but it is not essential. It simply gives you a broader range of lenses that have full function.

In reality, if you have the macro lens that you choose and a 18-200mm, the likelihood of your needing any other lenses is pretty small.

By the time you reach such a point, you'll probably be ready for a body upgrade and you can choose from cameras like the D-90, the D7000, or whatever models will be available at that time.

Well, it's a matter of opinion. Personally I want the autofocus to work and want to use some lenses not currently available in AF-S (such as the 85mm f 1.8), so for me it's an important consideration. However I'm mostly shooting sports and not much macro.

[matt4hand]

Originally Posted by JAGERVEGAS

950 bucks !! Does it let you get close up shots Matt ?

Post some so I can see how clear it gets when your close to the dial of your cool new Yacht-Master that you brushed. When you get a chance.
Thanks

Here you go Mark.
I sold the brushed YM but I bought another one this week that is still polished.

I just saw you asked for some up close pics. This is as close as I can get in focus with the lens I have. It's 18-55, Hopefully these help. I'm slowly starting to get a handle on this camera. I'm thinking about taking a few classes so I know what the hell I'm doing.

[dnagwhogas]

Yeah, but they pretty much have everything (or majority of the AF-D...or even manual lenses...or the popular ones at that) in the AF-S category already. (You just gotta pay more.....)

[Runnin' Rebel]

Originally Posted by matt4hand

Here you go Mark.
I sold the brushed YM but I bought another one this week that is still polished.

I just saw you asked for some up close pics. This is as close as I can get in focus with the lens I have. It's 18-55, Hopefully these help. I'm slowly starting to get a handle on this camera. I'm thinking about taking a few classes so I know what the hell I'm doing.

Thanks Matt !!

Any body have an opinion on this micro lens with the Nikon D3100....
Nikon Micro-Nikkor 105 mm F/2.8 Lens ??
Would it be too complicated, or should I slow down and take an easier approach to my soon to be new hobby. Specific to what I what to do is be able to keep the lens open longer for pictures in the dark and very up close pics. Would the camera body or lens have the manual settings/manual exposure mode for longer lens staying open? Thanks for every ones help by the way. I just don't want to get over my head on this thing. I'm a fast learner but want to have fun without getting aggravated from the get go.

[TimingsEverything]

I suggest you take a look at the excellent articles at http://www.kenrockwell.com/. Not everyone agrees with his product reviews, but I have found his articles and content very useful and informative. FWIW, I tend to agree with many of his reviews and currently shoot with a Nikon D700 for low light, fine work and a D7000 for sports and most everything else. Basically for close up work, I like the longer 105mm micro Nikkor because you don't have to get too physically close to get a close up image. This allows you more flexibility in lighting and placement. Here is Ken's article on macro work. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/macro.htm.

[TimingsEverything]

Originally Posted by JAGERVEGAS

Alright guys, one last question maybe. Does it make sense to buy the body of lets say the Nikon D3100 and then add different Lens to it. What do you think, am I moving in the right direction ? Does it have to be Nikon Lens or can it be a different manufacture of lens ? Does this make sense, or am I'm off base here. And I got that the lens needs to have a cap or something on it (UV filter) when it's not in use to protect it. I'm getting ready to bust a move here.
Thanks everyone
Mark

Since lenses can make a huge difference in image quality, and while third party manufacturers also make excellent lenses, I suggest sticking with Nikon lenses for a Nikon body. My favorite combination for general all around use is the 16-85mm Nikon (Nikkor) lens with my D7000. Nice size and weight, and the shorter 16mm length gives me more creative choices than the 18-200 Nikon. That said, if you really need long telephotos (for sports, usually), the 18-200 may be a better choice as an all around lens.

The "kit" lens that comes bundled with most DSLRs often is just "good" but not great. I'd easily pay slightly more and get a D3100 or other Nikon body and the 16-85 and skip the kit lens. For close ups get a 105mm micro Nikkor. People are divided on whether to use a clear UV filter to protect the lens. If you use them, get good quality ones with the latest anti-reflective coatings or you may detract from the quality of images you lens is capable of. Some people just take the risk and never have problems. Others are glad they had the filter. Your choice. FWIW, I use filters on my lenses. Though I'm fairly careful, I have seen marks on my filters that indicate they contacted something that I didn't notice hitting at the time.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Thanks Times, very helpful

[TimingsEverything]

A few recent shots taken with my D7000 and 16-85mm.

[Dilemma]

Because shooting watches with a DSLR is a pain at the start

I wouldn't call it a pain as much as frustrating.

I'm firmly in the Canon camp, but Nikon is an equally good choice.

[TimmerSuds]

Originally Posted by Dilemma

I wouldn't call it a pain as much as frustrating.

I'm firmly in the Canon camp, but Nikon is an equally good choice.

Would any of you dslr owners be willing to share your lighting tips to aid in taking quality picture?

It would sure be helpful to us rookies...

[Dilemma]

Originally Posted by TimmerSuds

Would any of you dslr owners be willing to share your lighting tips to aid in taking quality picture?

It would sure be helpful to us rookies...

Taking shots of your watch is a world away from shooting portraits. What are you shooting?

[TimmerSuds]

Originally Posted by Dilemma

Taking shots of your watch is a world away from shooting portraits. What are you shooting?

Sorry, should have been more specific.

I've got portrait shooting down pretty good, however, the watch shooting is not going so well.

I've made several different attempts at lighting in an effort to get even, consistent lighting with no glares and haven't had much success.

I've done other macro photography with decent results, but jewelry has been much more challenging.

Any tips appreciated...

[TimingsEverything]

Originally Posted by TimmerSuds

Sorry, should have been more specific.

I've got portrait shooting down pretty good, however, the watch shooting is not going so well.

I've made several different attempts at lighting in an effort to get even, consistent lighting with no glares and haven't had much success.

I've done other macro photography with decent results, but jewelry has been much more challenging.

Any tips appreciated...

Use an R1C1 setup.

[TimmerSuds]

Originally Posted by TimingsEverything

Use an R1C1 setup.

Do you use this as your only light source or in addition to a light tent?

[Dilemma]

Originally Posted by TimingsEverything

Use an R1C1 setup.

WOW.

I just use this. Works fine for me.

[TimingsEverything]

Originally Posted by Dilemma

WOW.

I just use this. Works fine for me.

Awesome. Yes, you can get great results with just a pocket camera using the macro range. Just need to use natural lighting.

[Dilemma]

This was a Canon 5D and 100mm macro.

[gwalker]

I know nothing about cameras but my sister was the head photographer for the Crimson White (the school paper for the University of Alabama) and she loves Nikon. Not sure what model though. Sorry about the totally useless post.

[kyle L]

Natural light!

[TimingsEverything]

Originally Posted by Dilemma

This was a Canon 5D and 100mm macro.

Doh. You had me fooled by the opening shot. 5Ds are awesome cameras, but I think the OP was looking more in the D3100 price range. You can't really go wrong with either Canon or Nikon.