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baybombers · 29 October 2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by humvee

---- WE HAVE TO call them what Rolex calls them....kind of like when a person has a pet name and your mom calls you pooky and your grandma calls you deedee BUT on your passport is your official name. Same applies here.

If someone has named their kid Steve, who are we to call that kid "John"???

I think the difference is that Sports Watch is a descriptive term not a proper name. Using your analogy, calling someone John who is actually named Steve would be like getting a Submariner and calling it a Daytona.

brownbear · 29 October 2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 316lad

FOUND IT!!!!!

James. Thanks.. Yes there is an "official" sport then.. The BrownBear Sport..
I stand corrected as you found an official document on this watch.
Because of the name of it. YOu made my day. I must put this on my wish list.. The term is still used in a very nebulous fashion.
If anyone has one of these, they then have a sport model..
If I make it to UK, I will be happy to buy you a pint.

brownbear · 29 October 2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skywag

Rolex makes jewelry. Certainly not accurate timepieces.

Lately I have begun just wearing them without adjusting them to the current time or winding them. Just out of the safe and on to the wrist.

My cell phone has more accurate time. And If I need accuracy I reach for my Citizen.

Aint that the truth.....

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kmleffler · 29 October 2011, 11:47 PM

If you care what other people think of your watch, then IMHO you're buying it for the wrong reason. The Rolex series of Professional watches are not what I consider dress watches. They are "sporty" watches that are very expensive. But then again, so is the AP Diver which is considerably more expensive then any of the SS Rolex Professional series watches.

Rags · 29 October 2011, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dddrees

How does the use of Sports Watch cheapen the Rolex brand? I think that's a commmon term used for watches worn on SS bracelets.

I agree with Dan the man....

brownbear · 29 October 2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by humvee

Based on your broad definition, even Cellinis are sports watches!

WE can call them what we want and categorize them as we please, but their official designation is "PROFESSIONAL SERIES" ---- WE HAVE TO call them what Rolex calls them....kind of like when a person has a pet name and your mom calls you pooky and your grandma calls you deedee BUT on your passport is your official name. Same applies here.

If someone has named their kid Steve, who are we to call that kid "John"???

HUM...
Exactly my point.... thanks for spelling that out in that fashion.

Zed Homme · 30 October 2011, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by humvee

Based on your broad definition, even Cellinis are sports watches!

WE can call them what we want and categorize them as we please, but their official designation is "PROFESSIONAL SERIES" ---- WE HAVE TO call them what Rolex calls them....kind of like when a person has a pet name and your mom calls you pooky and your grandma calls you deedee BUT on your passport is your official name. Same applies here.

I've never seen a Cellini on a bracelet, but I said generally.

I don't really understand why "WE HAVE TO" call them professional because rolex wants us to...

humvee · 30 October 2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zed Homme

I've never seen a Cellini on a bracelet, but I said generally.

I don't really understand why "WE HAVE TO" call them professional because rolex wants us to...

Here you go, plenty of them:

I do suggest that if you have eaten breakfast, then do not look

http://www.watchesbin.org/ROLEX-Cellini-81548.html

(I think the above website should be renamed to garbagebin

)

http://www.halmartins.com/rolex-cell...ch-6673-9.html

We have to call them professional because that's what they are, arn't they?
Rolex has given them a name. THat's the lingo they use.
That's what Rolex calls them and when you go to an AD and ask for sports series, they will politely remind you there is no such thing. THey will say "oh you mean the professional series"

If you are going to Paris, then you should learn the lingo or you will get dirty looks-- When at an AD, you are in Rolex Land and you should speak Rolex Lingo.

But if you lay down a ton of cash on the table, you do not need to spak any lingo. The lingo of Green is universal!!

Welshwatchman · 30 October 2011, 12:13 AM

Rolex is a luxury brand, no doubt in my mind.

Whilst holidaying in the middle east this summer I noticed a lot of Rolex TV adverts and the theme was all about luxury and "exclusivity". Gold and diamond encrusted versions were the order of the day.

TRF members, however, label the SS Sub, SD, Exp and Daytona "Sports" models.

You'll have a hell of a time telling us/them how to think and what to call things.

Good luck with that.

rad87gn · 30 October 2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brownbear

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is this talk of Rolex "sport" models?
Rolex does NOT make sport watches. They do NOT mention Sport watch in their literature. They make Luxury Watches for the professional.
If anyone can find where Rolex Officially (not some untrained person at an AD) but Rolex officially calls any of their watches "sport watches, please post it. .
To think that when I wear one of my Rolex, someone may come up and say "hey, nice sport watch" makes me cringe.. Cheapens the brand.

If they make Sport watches, maybe they also have Economy watches.

ARG!!!!!

It's an old WIS term from many years ago. Many authorized dealers still seperate and display them as their sport watch line. Back then they were in the hundred dollar range. They became a luxury brand over many years of jacking their prices up.

superdog · 30 October 2011, 12:24 AM

you can certainly describe your watch however you like. it appears though that there is some anger in your statement and i can't imagine that it derives from what someone might call your watch.

everything is and always will be based no our own individual perspective. that said, just because we say or even believe something does not necessarily make it so.

as an above poster mentioned, these watches are all pretty much designed and presented as watches to wear while performing activities such as diving, climbing and exploring. while this is not "football" they would certainly be classified as sporting type activities.

nuff said.

LightOnAHill · 30 October 2011, 12:27 AM

I let no one define my vocabulary. If the word carries the meaning I want to the recipient, it's the right word. here, on TRF "sport" carries that right meaning so it becomes my right word. No concern here from what rolex marketing means by their words...

Time2time · 30 October 2011, 12:29 AM

It doesn't bother me either way.

BUT, I have a sub and don't consider it a sports watch. Mainly because I don't consider diving a sport. A hobby or pastime but a sport??
Just my opinion.

humvee · 30 October 2011, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by superdog

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nuff said.

Very true. I think we are splitting hairs at this point.

ArcticMoose · 30 October 2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by humvee

WE HAVE TO call them what Rolex calls them.

We do? What police enforces this rule? I'll call them "snugglelumps" if I wish.

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Originally Posted by cgjane

Awesome pic! But do you really use it to do your dive table?

I do, but I always have a computer as well since the dynamically calculated bottom time usually lasts quite a bit longer.

I think I've dived all my watches, regardless of their intended use. (I'm sure the watch police will have a thing or two to say about that as well.)

cornerstore · 30 October 2011, 01:12 AM

oops

cornerstore · 30 October 2011, 01:13 AM

The oldest definition of sport in English (1300) is of anything humans find amusing or entertaining.[1] Other meanings include gambling and events staged for the purpose of gambling; hunting; and games and diversions, including ones that require exercise.[2] Roget's defines the noun sport as an "activity engaged in for relaxation and amusement" with synonyms including diversion and recreation.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

Seems to me Rolex is truly a Sports Watch for all occasions.I was wearing mine watching the World Series just the other night

316lad · 30 October 2011, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick09

The oldest definition of sport in English (1300) is of anything humans find amusing or entertaining.[1] Other meanings include gambling and events staged for the purpose of gambling; hunting; and games and diversions, including ones that require exercise.[2] Roget's defines the noun sport as an "activity engaged in for relaxation and amusement" with synonyms including diversion and recreation.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

Seems to me Rolex is truly a Sports Watch for all occasions.I was wearing mine watching the World Series just the other night

Yep, wearing my sub watching the footie scores on TV now.

Mickey® · 30 October 2011, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brownbear

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is this talk of Rolex "sport" models?
Rolex does NOT make sport watches. They do NOT mention Sport watch in their literature. They make Luxury Watches for the professional.
If anyone can find where Rolex Officially (not some untrained person at an AD) but Rolex officially calls any of their watches "sport watches, please post it. .
To think that when I wear one of my Rolex, someone may come up and say "hey, nice sport watch" makes me cringe.. Cheapens the brand.

If they make Sport watches, maybe they also have Economy watches.

ARG!!!!!

All the "Ads" for Submariner have been DIVING ads....that's a sport to me.
I will always consider a Sub a Sport (say Tool if you like) watch.

A quick google search for Submariner Ads...
Maybe that is why SOME of us don't like the way the new Rolex Sports models are being designed.

You maybe right...only the ORIGINAL watches were true sport or tool watches????

ArcticMoose · 30 October 2011, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey®

All the "Ads" for Submariner have been DIVING ads....that's a sport to me.

Uh, you forgot this one.

Mickey® · 30 October 2011, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

Uh, you forgot this one.

Thanks! That is another one! Navy and 660ft!!!
I just got tired of copy and pasting!!!!

bigrustypig · 30 October 2011, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by capote

who cares what people call what?

bullseye!

Mickey® · 30 October 2011, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bigrustypig

bullseye!

It's just a discussion on a FORUM...who cares what any of us say really?
It was just a question from the OP...

We don't have to respond!!!

ArcticMoose · 30 October 2011, 01:51 AM

Rolex.com: sports and culture
http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...ts-and-culture

Rolex.com: Motor-sport
http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...re/motor-sport

Rolex.com: the equestrian sports:
http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...ure/equestrian

Regardless of what they call the watches, they sure do want to maintain the sports connection.

Mickey® · 30 October 2011, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

Rolex.com: sports and culture
http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...ts-and-culture

Rolex.com: Motor-sport
http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...re/motor-sport

Rolex.com: the equestrian sports:
http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...ure/equestrian

Regardless of what they call the watches, they sure do want to maintain the sports connection.

Great links!!!
Wait....this one...(click on link it works sorta)
http://www.rolex.com/luxury/caviar/r...rt-ability.com

luxury/caviar/richpeople-nomusclesorsport-ability

springbar · 30 October 2011, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by brownbear

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is this talk of Rolex "sport" models?
Rolex does NOT make sport watches. They do NOT mention Sport watch in their literature. They make Luxury Watches for the professional.
If anyone can find where Rolex Officially (not some untrained person at an AD) but Rolex officially calls any of their watches "sport watches, please post it. .
To think that when I wear one of my Rolex, someone may come up and say "hey, nice sport watch" makes me cringe.. Cheapens the brand.

If they make Sport watches, maybe they also have Economy watches.

ARG!!!!!

This is an argument about semantics. Define your terms.

Time2time · 30 October 2011, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 316lad

Yep, wearing my sub watching the footie scores on TV now.

X2

STEELINOX · 30 October 2011, 02:21 AM

There'sa possibility of a "Sport ROLEX watch," to possibly be given away for Christmas !!!

Kinda like this one, possibly, lol !

firstOwatch · 30 October 2011, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cgjane

They are SPORT WATCHES used as LUXURY GOODS.

Submariners are for diving, Daytonas for Racing, Explorers for Spelunking. etc etc

But do people REALLY use them for sports? NO (for the most part).

Well said

gettocard · 30 October 2011, 02:38 AM

One of my mountainbike rides would most likely put my SD to sleep. But I do consider it a sporty looking watch anyway.

29 October 2011, 11:47 PM	#34
kmleffler "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ken Location: New York, NY Watch: GS SD GMT Posts: 389	If you care what other people think of your watch, then IMHO you're buying it for the wrong reason. The Rolex series of Professional watches are not what I consider dress watches. They are "sporty" watches that are very expensive. But then again, so is the AP Diver which is considerably more expensive then any of the SS Rolex Professional series watches. Last edited by kmleffler; 29 October 2011 at 11:47 PM.. Reason: missing word.

30 October 2011, 12:13 AM	#39
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Rolex is a luxury brand, no doubt in my mind. Whilst holidaying in the middle east this summer I noticed a lot of Rolex TV adverts and the theme was all about luxury and "exclusivity". Gold and diamond encrusted versions were the order of the day. TRF members, however, label the SS Sub, SD, Exp and Daytona "Sports" models. You'll have a hell of a time telling us/them how to think and what to call things. Good luck with that. __________________ ..33

30 October 2011, 01:12 AM	#46
cornerstore "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 4,010	oops Last edited by cornerstore; 30 October 2011 at 01:20 AM.. Reason: duplicate

30 October 2011, 02:21 AM	#58
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	There'sa possibility of a "Sport ROLEX watch," to possibly be given away for Christmas !!! Kinda like this one, possibly, lol ! __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN SUB-MAH-REEEN-ER ~ !

30 October 2011, 12:24 AM	#41
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,834	you can certainly describe your watch however you like. it appears though that there is some anger in your statement and i can't imagine that it derives from what someone might call your watch. everything is and always will be based no our own individual perspective. that said, just because we say or even believe something does not necessarily make it so. as an above poster mentioned, these watches are all pretty much designed and presented as watches to wear while performing activities such as diving, climbing and exploring. while this is not "football" they would certainly be classified as sporting type activities. nuff said.

30 October 2011, 12:27 AM	#42
LightOnAHill "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Bryan Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: YG DD lchdp Posts: 2,963	I let no one define my vocabulary. If the word carries the meaning I want to the recipient, it's the right word. here, on TRF "sport" carries that right meaning so it becomes my right word. No concern here from what rolex marketing means by their words...

30 October 2011, 12:29 AM	#43
Time2time Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: U.K Watch: Milgauss GV, Sub-C Posts: 2,178	It doesn't bother me either way. BUT, I have a sub and don't consider it a sports watch. Mainly because I don't consider diving a sport. A hobby or pastime but a sport?? Just my opinion.

30 October 2011, 01:13 AM	#47
cornerstore "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 4,010	The oldest definition of sport in English (1300) is of anything humans find amusing or entertaining.[1] Other meanings include gambling and events staged for the purpose of gambling; hunting; and games and diversions, including ones that require exercise.[2] Roget's defines the noun sport as an "activity engaged in for relaxation and amusement" with synonyms including diversion and recreation.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport Seems to me Rolex is truly a Sports Watch for all occasions.I was wearing mine watching the World Series just the other night

30 October 2011, 01:51 AM	#54
ArcticMoose "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Sea Posts: 1,894	Rolex.com: sports and culture http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...ts-and-culture Rolex.com: Motor-sport http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...re/motor-sport Rolex.com: the equestrian sports: http://www.rolex.com/en#/world-of-ro...ure/equestrian Regardless of what they call the watches, they sure do want to maintain the sports connection.

30 October 2011, 02:38 AM	#60
gettocard Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: EU Watch: them come and go.. Posts: 2,052	One of my mountainbike rides would most likely put my SD to sleep. But I do consider it a sporty looking watch anyway.

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