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Old 5 August 2007, 06:42 AM   #31
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Again: IMHO, the thread is good for studying the signs of a fairly good fake.

Only because it is a knock-off, you don't have to knock it!
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Old 5 August 2007, 06:44 AM   #32
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Isn't Adrian is leaving TRF because of people posting such negativity about what others value as well? I will leave it to you to decide who I am talking about.
Enjoy your watch, especially since it is a gift of love.
Brandon - Diverse opinions make the world go round and should be tolerated if presented politely. The original members of this forum, myself, JJ, Earl, Adrian, Ed, Daren, Padi included, came here from another watch forum which had heavy handed moderation and intolerance for diverse opinion.

This is a very nice forum and will continue, I'm sure to remain such. Opinion is fine if presented kindly.
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Old 5 August 2007, 06:47 AM   #33
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I think anyone knocking a guy wearing a fake Rolex says more about the critic than the owner.
Poseur? Nope, just a guy living a dream like we all did once.
And, yes, lest we forget, a Rolex is just a mechanism for telling you what time it is.
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Old 5 August 2007, 06:49 AM   #34
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Seems to me the forum is shifting the last 2 days ...
Not a good sign.
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Old 5 August 2007, 06:52 AM   #35
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Seems to me the forum is shifting the last 2 days ...
What kind of shift, Flip? I've been away in the UK and missed some things. What's up???
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Hmmm...

Let's see..

A replica Cobra can go for over 100 thousand US, and they are much in demand.

Replicas of Thomas Kincaid paintings and Picasso originals are available at art auctions and Cruise ships and are in great demand pulling in high prices.

Replica NASCAR jackets and hats sell for big bucks.

Replica NFL and NBA and NHL jerseys are every where.

Replica Pace cars are available from every automaker to the highest bidder..

Replicas of designer high fashion is available from Wal-Mart.

And on and on and on...............

Let's think about this maturely....The only thing wrong with a replica (fake, copy - choose yours) is when some body tries to pass it off as the real thing and makes an ass of themselves by that action.

Bravo Aykun....you make no pretense about its authenticity and you aspire to obtain the real thing once it is within your means.

That's integrity....and it's hard to come by..
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I wouldn't mind one of those fakes.....ahh...for my son.
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Let's think about this maturely....The only thing wrong with a replica (fake, copy - choose yours) is when some body tries to pass it off as the real thing and makes an ass of themselves by that action.
The other thing wrong is when the people who copy these items do not pay licensing fees. NFL, NBA, MLB hats and clothing is a great example. Those leagues license their copyrighted images for a fee. No problem. The problem arises when someone steals someone else's proprietary rights for their own financial gain. This is why we have laws. Put yourself in the shoes of the manufacturer.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND I am not passing judgement and don't profess to be a perfect person by any stretch. However, the cost of pirating and fraud goes into the Rolex that I work my ass off to afford.

REPLICA and licensed FINE. COUNTERFIT = stolen concept and design = HMMMMM
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IMHO, Aykun is one of the most honest, open and simple guys a person could meet.

He and I have exchanged numerous PMs on various questions he's asked me and I've always found it a pleasure to deal with him.

He's one helluva straight-forward guy!!

Agreed, I always enjoy his posts, he's one of the good guys.
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Aykun is a really nice guy with a slightly different and refreshing approach in his previous posts and threads.

I believe that he honestly did not forsee how open he was to leave himself to a bit of venom from those who despise the nasty fakes.

A little naive perhaps but still a nice guy.

Pretty good pictures and a little unnerving how much metal and movement you can get for £25 retail. Makes you shudder to think that the real deal costs 150 times as much.

No more pics though Aykun, not of this fake.
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IMHO, Aykun is one of the most honest, open and simple guys a person could meet.

He and I have exchanged numerous PMs on various questions he's asked me and I've always found it a pleasure to deal with him.

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The very existence of knock-offs should be a reassurance to every genuine Rolex owner that they bought the good stuff. And, whether the Rolex company appreciates it or not, the knock-offs elevate Rolex's brand equity in the marketplace by creating the perception that a Rolex is something worth imitating.

You'll know when Rolex has lost their edge when they stop making the fugazis.

Nice looking watch, Aykun. Enjoy it, and don't sweat the nay-sayers.
Thanks my friends and also thanks all who can understand that I just simply open a topic for just share Rolex pleasure even I got a replica for present and it's still nice on my wrist even after buying a TT version I will be wearing this one too. I didnt compare with the authentic one I know the differences and inaccurancies or whatever, I saw at first look I didnt say that no difference but some tossers comments are so stupid and they are unable to understand that I didnt say that to buy a replica is better,no need to discuss. Well it was a mistake to open a topic with a replica Folex.
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Well it was a mistake to open a topic with a replica Rolex.

I think that is a fair comment.
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Old 5 August 2007, 07:57 AM   #42
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I think that is a fair comment.
I read all just now, after lots of tossing comments what else can I write ? I'm disappointed, I dont understand what's the problem, a Folex or replica or copy or whatelse tossers say, can be a very very good comparing with its price unless it's a copy of a TT version and I think that I got a good copy that's why I wrote here, but better not to share again anything and better to delete this topic.
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At what point was anyone here given the right or authority to judge anyone else? I too have seen a recent trend here on TRF that I don't like. There's too much conflict anymore and it's going to stop.

Aykun, has posted that he received a fake Rolex. He never tried to pass it off as real. It was a gift from a loved one in lieu of being able to afford a real one somewhere down the line. Yes, counterfeits are a copyright infringement, but it's one of what, three hundred million of them out there? Are some members here really so shallow that they feel the need to break this guys balls because of this situation? If so, it's pretty sad.

Not all of us have the same financial means as others. I have a fake Rolex too. When my wife and I were first married, young and broke, she bought me a horrible fake Submariner. I treasure that watch to this day, because she gave enough of a shit about me to try her damnedest to get me what I wanted with the means she had available at the time. Since then, we've been through ten authentic ones and have been lucky enough to had the opportunity to earn some of the finer things we have. But, the value I place on that fake she gave me surpasses that of any real one. It's called sentimental value and a small reminder of where I came from.

That said, TRF does not endorse or support counterfeit watches in any way. So, Aykun, please comply with Paul's (Welshwatchman) request to post no more pictures of this watch as they will not be allowed. But do enjoy it and cherish the efforts by your loved one. I also urge you not to settle for and support fakes and continue to work toward your goal of owning a real one. The supporting of fakes does go against what most WIS's believe in here.

Seeing that this watch is not an authentic Rolex, this thread will be moved from the Rolex forum to the Non-Rolex forum. As for the continuation of this thread, if a member has nothing nice to say, say nothing and move on to the next thread.
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Very well said C.J.

I'm guessing that you resolve conflict for a living?!
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Old 5 August 2007, 08:26 AM   #45
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Very well said C.J.

I'm guessing that you resolve conflict for a living?!
Thanks, bro. Yeah, I've had a little practice
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Yes, well said tools, some of us wear the greatest of watches yet seem to have the smallest of minds!!

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Hmmm...

Let's see..

A replica Cobra can go for over 100 thousand US, and they are much in demand.

Replicas of Thomas Kincaid paintings and Picasso originals are available at art auctions and Cruise ships and are in great demand pulling in high prices.

Replica NASCAR jackets and hats sell for big bucks.

Replica NFL and NBA and NHL jerseys are every where.

Replica Pace cars are available from every automaker to the highest bidder..

Replicas of designer high fashion is available from Wal-Mart.

And on and on and on...............

Let's think about this maturely....The only thing wrong with a replica (fake, copy - choose yours) is when some body tries to pass it off as the real thing and makes an ass of themselves by that action.

Bravo Aykun....you make no pretense about its authenticity and you aspire to obtain the real thing once it is within your means.

That's integrity....and it's hard to come by..
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Inorder not to create more confrontation, lets delete this topic I'm already fed up.
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Brandon - Diverse opinions make the world go round and should be tolerated if presented politely. The original members of this forum, myself, JJ, Earl, Adrian, Ed, Daren, Padi included, came here from another watch forum which had heavy handed moderation and intolerance for diverse opinion.

This is a very nice forum and will continue, I'm sure to remain such. Opinion is fine if presented kindly.
I surley hope I have not been misunderstood. I in no way wish to protry any disgust of anyones opinion. You are exactly right, opinion is fine if presented kindly. The point I was trying to make was that the hostility I saw in this thread, particularly from one member calling another member a demeaning name. I was surmising that members such as these may have also been been in Adrians mind when he let the forum know he was leaving. I apologize for not being clear.
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That said, TRF does not endorse or support counterfeit watches in any way. So, Aykun, please comply with Paul's (Welshwatchman) request to post no more pictures of this watch as they will not be allowed. But do enjoy it and cherish the efforts by your loved one. I also urge you not to settle for and support fakes and continue to work toward your goal of owning a real one. The supporting of fakes does go against what most WIS's believe in here.
THAT is what needed to be said.
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Yes, well said tools, some of us wear the greatest of watches yet seem to have the smallest of minds!!
TO whom do you refer?
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better not to come again without a Rolex to forum.
Aykun, I for one enjoy having you as a regular member of the Rolex forum. I think it's great that your GF thinks enough of you to buy you what she was able to afford. I'm sure that if she had the financial means, she would have bought you the real thing. In the meantime, keep posting and keep working toward your goal of getting out of there and buying your real Rolex.

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better not to come again without a Rolex to forum.

Out of 5500 members (500+ of those as being current active members) less than 200 actually own a Rolex as shown by my poll of polls.

You don't need a Rolex to be a member, just an appreciation of the brand.

You have got that in spades.
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Aykun, I for one enjoy having you as a regular member of the Rolex forum. I think it's great that your GF thinks enough of you to buy you what she was able to afford. I'm sure that if she had the financial means, she would have bought you the real thing. In the meantime, keep posting and keep working toward your goal of getting out of there and buying your real Rolex.

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Exactly, we buy presents to each of us oftenly by the way after marriage we ll buy real ones to each of us depending on financial situations. I will wait till I ll get authentic TT version of Sub blue and I will also think twice before writing here.

I never support or advice to buy a Folex but I'm just so satisfied with my present but to buy a Folex has just and just 1 advantage rather than to buy a Rolex and that is the EASE of change it when you dont like it or when watch has problems change with other serie freely even more than 1 year later, and service of a Folex is just 5-6 dollars and 10-30 minutes and chance to wait near the watch.


However today I washed my Folex under water with hair shampoo and it's really water resistant and after using 6 days today I see that it s illuminations points illuminate at night as authentic one that made me happy and also I realized that my Folex gains 35 seconds per day should I change it or is it an acceptable gaining of seconds for a Folex?



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Out of 5500 members (500+ of those as being current active members) less than 200 actually own a Rolex as shown by my poll of polls.

You don't need a Rolex to be a member, just an appreciation of the brand.

You have got that in spades.
I know but not kind comments made me sad.
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However today I washed my Folex under water with hair shampoo and it's really water resistant and after using 6 days today I see that it s illuminations points illuminate at night as authentic one that made me happy and also I realized that my Folex gains 35 seconds per day should I change it or is it an acceptable gaining of seconds for a Folex?
I'm by no means an expert, but if your watch has one of the commonly available Japanese movements, it should be capable of much better time keeping. Chances are good, because of the price, it was not regulated properly when it left the "builder".

If it has one of the highly regarded ETA movements (and I'm not sure it would without being much more expensive), then it will run as good as any automatic watch...+ or - 5 seconds or less per day.

If it's a Chinese movement....it may not be as good as the other two, but it should do better than 35 seconds a day..

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Aykun,

I dabbled into replica watches before and after they broke down, I decided to spend some $$ and bought a genuine Rolex. The first one that I bought was a no date sub, and for a 20 year old watch, it was outstanding... and I only had $2200 to spend.

I'm glad that you are not here to deceive and you did let everybody know that you had a replica and did not try to pass it on as a genuine.

It does support the underworld, but it is a free world and in a free world anybody can get what they want as long as their are $$.

You will one day obtain your dream Rolex whether it is from an AD or whether it is a pre-loved one from this site or the others.

Posting this in the Rolex forum, for sure you will get some pretty nasty responses, but you are true to your word. I would let the harsh remarks pass by.

TRF welcomes folks with or without Rolex, and of course other brands of Swiss, German and Asian watches.

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I'm by no means an expert, but if your watch has one of the commonly available Japanese movements, it should be capable of much better time keeping. Chances are good, because of the price, it was not regulated properly when it left the "builder".

If it has one of the highly regarded ETA movements (and I'm not sure it would without being much more expensive), then it will run as good as any automatic watch...+ or - 5 seconds or less per day.

If it's a Chinese movement....it may not be as good as the other two, but it should do better than 35 seconds a day..

hmm I dont know which movement but few years before I had another automatic but authentic Swiss watch and it was gaining 65 seconds per day, I really dont know which movement but if it is a Chinese watch really I can say congragulations cause the success of making a water resistant automatic exactly similar copy with good quality stainless steel is nice. Replica Daytonas with correctly working chrono with ETA movement is about 200 dollars here so if I consider not chrono fuction it may be ETA or not and it's not so important cause Submariner hasn't chrono but I think I ll not go to change it 35 seconds per day can be solved with adjusting sometimes.



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Aykun,

I dabbled into replica watches before and after they broke down, I decided to spend some $$ and bought a genuine Rolex. The first one that I bought was a no date sub, and for a 20 year old watch, it was outstanding... and I only had $2200 to spend.

I'm glad that you are not here to deceive and you did let everybody know that you had a replica and did not try to pass it on as a genuine.

It does support the underworld, but it is a free world and in a free world anybody can get what they want as long as their are $$.

You will one day obtain your dream Rolex whether it is from an AD or whether it is a pre-loved one from this site or the others.

Posting this in the Rolex forum, for sure you will get some pretty nasty responses, but you are true to your word. I would let the harsh remarks pass by.

TRF welcomes folks with or without Rolex, and of course other brands of Swiss, German and Asian watches.

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I prefer to share a pleasure honestly,I ve nothing to hide btw I already can buy a new SS Sub Date or non-date but I want a TT version and have a gold-steel watch after paying thousands for just a watch that I will wear all my life. I will buy just new one cause I really looked for prices models at blue tts and I see that they dont loose value by year and I'm afraid to buy a not correct watch that's why to wait to get the new and TT one will be super and I will be comfortable. I dont care bad comments about my Folex and I will not care when I will post here my future authentic Rolex's photos.

I never say that to buy a Folex is better but if you look to all watches that can be bought with 50 dollars look what you get; shining stainless steel watch, water resistant, automatic movement, turning bezel, nearly free service, to be able to change or take money back whenever you want and the richer look. if all is just half price of even a Swatch so it is a good deal for a Folex if good quality but to buy gold plated or painted copies is not a clever idea cause not real gold can be noticed much more easier than the copy of a steel. I think that all you get with this price is not possible to get from any kind of authentic watch if you consider price otherwise again NO unless you buy an authentic Rolex that you get much much more for all life. By the way only place that I will buy my Rolex is Geneva/Swiss cause it will be the cheapest and safest way to get an authentic Rolex by the way I'm curious about new Submariners that will come I ve more than half price of Sub. And to be quick to catch the last train and get last blue TT with old case or wait for updated case of Submariners? Which one is better? I couldnt decide.
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I can TOTALLY understand how someone who cannot afford the real deal would buy a knock-off. I did so myself 20 years ago as a poor student. Some Cellini looking thing.

I don't see the wisdom in posting it on a Rolex afficionado web site but respect his right to do so and support his aspirations to one day acquire a real one.
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