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Nick Hacko · 16 August 2007, 10:25 PM

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Arby · 16 August 2007, 10:58 PM

Whoa, whoa, whoa... can cooler heads prevail here?

I've been here only a few months now and seen how these arguments get completely blown out of proportion. Once you fellas settle down and think it over it's only a place for enthusiests to talk about watches.

Nick, your opinion of us not knowing how to use a loupe as a blanket statement may be true in my point (I had no idea what a loupe was a few years ago). But some people like JJ (and others) that do know how to use one may have been taken aback and thought it may have been snobbish.

In JJ's case it may have been a case of Sheep Deprevation... umm... I mean Sleep Deprevation (I'm joking

)

There's been a couple of high profile members falling on swords lately making a big production of leaving. This may not be one of the bigger production jobs but it is one none the less. Once you say you're leaving it makes it hard to come back when you think it over and see how foolish the argument was. Nick, if you are going to leave, then leave. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your informative posts. Hate to see it end over such a paultry reason as being able to or not being able to use a Loupe...

P.S. For those now knowing how to use a loupe I Yahoo Searched "how to loupe" and found 10+ pages on directions.

Gedanken · 17 August 2007, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

JJ:

>so I don't need you or any other smartass watchmaker to teach me about the basics of Rolex.

Mate,

couple weeks ago you've called me a bugger. I did not took it seriousely, but this time I had enough. Calling me a smartass watchmaker is slightly over the top.

I am not paid to post here and I am not seeking publicity.
By the time you read this post I will be unsubscribed and gone from Rolex forum forever. No hard feelings my friend, the life will go on. Happy collecting and take care.

Cheerio to all good friends I've had priviledge to meet here
and to moderators who are doing fine job.

Yours truly,

Nick Hacko,
Master Watchmaker and Jeweller, Sydney

Nick, you called JJ a clown for using a loupe, he called you a smartass watchmaker. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you wanna think you're big enough to dish it out, you'd jolly well better grow up and be big enough to take what's returned. The disrespectful tone was set by you in the first place with obnoxious comments like "if you want to make a clown of yourself", so you've got no place bleating now.

I've had enough of cleaning up your mess everytime you go over the top with your keyboard. Just a little over a week ago I tried talking to you nicely about this in private, but apparently that was a waste of my time, so no more Mr Nice Guy. If you want to start something, don't go throwing your toys out of the pram when you get a taste of your own medicine.

Rockrolex · 17 August 2007, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

JJ:

>so I don't need you or any other smartass watchmaker to teach me about the basics of Rolex.

Mate,

couple weeks ago you've called me a bugger. I did not took it seriousely, but this time I had enough. Calling me a smartass watchmaker is slightly over the top.

I am not paid to post here and I am not seeking publicity.
By the time you read this post I will be unsubscribed and gone from Rolex forum forever. No hard feelings my friend, the life will go on. Happy collecting and take care.

Cheerio to all good friends I've had priviledge to meet here
and to moderators who are doing fine job.

Yours truly,

Nick Hacko,
Master Watchmaker and Jeweller, Sydney

Nick, I have observed that you can dish it out, but you can't take it in return.

My only thought is -- Don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out.

SPACE-DWELLER · 17 August 2007, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

JJ:

>so I don't need you or any other smartass watchmaker to teach me about the basics of Rolex.

Mate,

couple weeks ago you've called me a bugger. I did not took it seriousely, but this time I had enough. Calling me a smartass watchmaker is slightly over the top.

I am not paid to post here and I am not seeking publicity.
By the time you read this post I will be unsubscribed and gone from Rolex forum forever. No hard feelings my friend, the life will go on. Happy collecting and take care.

Cheerio to all good friends I've had priviledge to meet here
and to moderators who are doing fine job.

Yours truly,

Nick Hacko,
Master Watchmaker and Jeweller, Sydney

Andad · 16 August 2007, 06:42 PM

I have some specks on the dial of my DD. They are not on the original pix I took when I bought it. When I look at them with a 15x loupe I can clearly see that they are flecks of gold. I'm going to wait until I can see more of them and melt them down for a few $$$'s.

I will put the DD on my microscope at 100x and post a pix. I should use the microscope for my AD inspections and why not, I am paying the dollars for Rolex 'quality'.

timebroker · 16 August 2007, 09:04 PM

Inspected a DJ with a loupe yesterday, if I would not have done that I probably would have bought a fake one ... simple as that, everything was scary perfect on the dial except the crown was off centered to the 12 o'clock.

SPACE-DWELLER · 16 August 2007, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timebroker

Inspected a DJ with a loupe yesterday, if I would not have done that I probably would have bought a fake one ... simple as that, everything was scary perfect on the dial except the crown was off centered to the 12 o'clock.

Probably you didn't use the loupe right! It is rocket science to use a loupe, as Nick states!

C'mon! Look again! There MUST be a flaw!

leopardprey · 16 August 2007, 09:36 PM

Scratch on the bezel or bracelet is not really a big deal to me, as I am going to put those on myself withing a couple weeks of wearing. But, the Dial. That is a different matter. There is only one way for a scratch, blemish, lint, etc.. to be there and that is through poor QC.

dman · 17 August 2007, 01:19 AM

Your way, my way. Pick up the phone, tell my favorite saleslady, who is tre hottie btw, what I am looking for. She knows all the numbers for Panerai and some Rolex too I think. Get a guess on timeframe for arrival or shipping. She overnights the watch to a friend in a neighbor state, I overnight a check. Two days later I get the watch and swear this one I will keep for a long time.

advocatia · 17 August 2007, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dman

Your way, my way. Pick up the phone, tell my favorite saleslady, who is tre hottie btw, what I am looking for. She knows all the numbers for Panerai and some Rolex too I think. Get a guess on timeframe for arrival or shipping. She overnights the watch to a friend in a neighbor state, I overnight a check. Two days later I get the watch and swear this one I will keep for a long time.

Daren: Did you ever get the new SSGMTII ?

dman · 17 August 2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by advocatia

Daren: Did you ever get the new SSGMTII ?

Yeah, have worn it for all but couple days since I got it. This one has more than a little something going for it. I had a trade set up for the Big Bang that I wanted, and backed out. I used to own the YM with a Daytona clasp, that was a cool watch. This one is that good and a ton better.

astcell · 17 August 2007, 03:15 AM

16. Repeat monthly.

Obsession · 17 August 2007, 04:33 AM

unfortunutely, none of them I just look from the window since 7 years to Oyster Collection and in few minutes I leave and after few minutes again I come back and look again to the beauty of watches in that decoration and throw this dream to my heart that's all, I'm sure that if I enter inside they will not care about me cause I cant buy a TT yet and I dont want SS.

JJ Irani · 17 August 2007, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obsession

unfortunutely, none of them I just look from the window since 7 years to Oyster Collection and in few minutes I leave and after few minutes again I come back and look again to the beauty of watches in that decoration and throw this dream to my heart that's all, I'm sure that if I enter inside they will not care about me cause I cant buy a TT yet and I dont want SS.

Patience, my friend.....it will come.....just you wait and see!!

Tools · 17 August 2007, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obsession

unfortunutely, none of them I just look from the window since 7 years to Oyster Collection .............. I'm sure that if I enter inside they will not care about me cause I cant buy a TT yet and I dont want SS.

That's right....If you don't get the one you really want; the desire will never go away..

timebroker · 17 August 2007, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obsession

unfortunutely, none of them I just look from the window since 7 years to Oyster Collection and in few minutes I leave and after few minutes again I come back and look again to the beauty of watches in that decoration and throw this dream to my heart that's all, I'm sure that if I enter inside they will not care about me cause I cant buy a TT yet and I dont want SS.

If you feel like that about watches, why not make a hobby out of buying and selling watches, one at a time, steadily growing and eventually you can buy the one you want to keep from the small profits you make, start with Seiko for instance?
Every watch has a buyer ...

SPACE-DWELLER · 17 August 2007, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obsession

unfortunutely, none of them I just look from the window since 7 years to Oyster Collection and in few minutes I leave and after few minutes again I come back and look again to the beauty of watches in that decoration and throw this dream to my heart that's all, I'm sure that if I enter inside they will not care about me cause I cant buy a TT yet and I dont want SS.

It will be celebration time BIG time here on TRF when you finally get your TT Rolex.

I hope you get it soon

Dan Pierce · 17 August 2007, 04:51 AM

Quote:

You and me both, Chris.....You and me both

Me three.

dP

leopardprey · 17 August 2007, 01:44 PM

Posted some instructions for JJ on the Open Discussion Forum Board, since JJ has some issues.

JJ Irani · 17 August 2007, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leopardprey

Posted some instructions for JJ on the Open Discussion Forum Board, since JJ has some issues.

I read them, tosser!!

Gedanken · 17 August 2007, 09:29 PM

You're entitled to your opinion, Otto. From my perspective, JJ is not the first member here to get offended by Nick's posts, even as recently as a fortnight ago, and I've had to clean up one mess too many.

If Nick intended to be funny, well and good. Comedians take people getting their noses out of joint as part and parcel of the game because they understand that a joke is often at someone's expense, so he needs to take a page out of their book and deal with it like an adult instead of chucking a hissy fit.

Otto · 17 August 2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gedanken

You're entitled to your opinion, Otto. From my perspective, JJ is not the first member here to get offended by Nick's posts, even as recently as a fortnight ago, and I've had to clean up one mess too many.

If Nick intended to be funny, well and good. Comedians take people getting their noses out of joint as part and parcel of the game because they understand that a joke is often at someone's expense, so he needs to take a page out of their book and deal with it like an adult instead of chucking a hissy fit.

Fair enough. I haven't noticed Nick much before, so maybe you're right. I just didn't see anything really offensive from Nick in that particular exchange.

astcell · 18 August 2007, 05:29 PM

JJ was posting in jest but Nick sees that as his job, so he cannot "lay down his arms" for the sake of the joke. He does take it seriously! That right there limits his sense of humor in the subject I think, just like if you shop for cars you kick the tires, then any car salesman will jibe you about doing that.

ANYWAY..... I have been here about a year and see folks come and go and life goes on. I got all bent out of shape when we lost C.J. and Amanda but I'm relaxing more now. The forums evolve and one day JJ may even call it quits. Who knows.

dman · 19 August 2007, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astcell

The forums evolve and one day JJ may even call it quits. Who knows.

When is GG leaving? Let's party....JK!

JJ Irani · 19 August 2007, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dman

When is GG leaving? Let's party....JK!

Tosser!

puffnmo · 19 August 2007, 03:50 AM

This is one RED HOT thread. I need to get a Red Bull with lots of ice, the Alexander McCall Smith novel I'm reading and a nice Ashton Cabinet, take 'em out on the patio and kick back.

And for good measure I'm wearing my white Daytona.

Have a great weekend, all of you! Larry.

JJ Irani · 19 August 2007, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puffnmo

This is one RED HOT thread. I need to get a Red Bull with lots of ice, the Alexander McCall Smith novel I'm reading and a nice Ashton Cabinet, take 'em out on the patio and kick back.

And for good measure I'm wearing my white Daytona.

Have a great weekend, all of you! Larry.

And back at ya, Larry!!

JJ Irani · 19 August 2007, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astcell

The forums evolve and one day JJ may even call it quits. Who knows.

You never know.....and there could even be an Armageddon!!

rongmt · 19 August 2007, 05:00 AM

Bit different in the USA:

1. Park your car at the mall lot along with the 5,000 other cars.

2. Walk into the climate-controlled mall and past all the GAP, Spencer's Gifts, E&B Games, and other chain stores that inhabit every mall in the USA.

3. Grab a Cinnabon and coffee.

4. Look up the ADs (yes, that's plural!) in the Mall.

5. Wander into one of the ADs and get cinnamon and sugar all over the display case while telling the salesperson that the other AD in the mall has better prices (except if it's Tourneau, they'll know you're lying!).

6. Drool over the dozens of watches in the case and narrow in on the one you really want and ask to see it. Wipe your hands PLEASE!

7. Ignore the salesperson rushing you because she wants the commission from the diamond ring the other person is going to buy on the spot and you're wasting her time.

7. Plead for a discount - any discount.

8. Whip out your credit card and pay for it.

9. Have them size it (assuming they have the tools to do it).

10. Have them fill in the warranty paper (the watch probably has been there for 2 years already)

11. Take the watch home and check for any flaws.

16 August 2007, 10:25 PM	#1
Nick Hacko Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 274	. Last edited by Nick Hacko; 28 August 2007 at 08:49 PM..

16 August 2007, 06:42 PM	#6
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	I have some specks on the dial of my DD. They are not on the original pix I took when I bought it. When I look at them with a 15x loupe I can clearly see that they are flecks of gold. I'm going to wait until I can see more of them and melt them down for a few $$$'s. I will put the DD on my microscope at 100x and post a pix. I should use the microscope for my AD inspections and why not, I am paying the dollars for Rolex 'quality'. __________________ E

17 August 2007, 01:19 AM	#10
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	Your way, my way. Pick up the phone, tell my favorite saleslady, who is tre hottie btw, what I am looking for. She knows all the numbers for Panerai and some Rolex too I think. Get a guess on timeframe for arrival or shipping. She overnights the watch to a friend in a neighbor state, I overnight a check. Two days later I get the watch and swear this one I will keep for a long time. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

17 August 2007, 09:29 PM	#22
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	You're entitled to your opinion, Otto. From my perspective, JJ is not the first member here to get offended by Nick's posts, even as recently as a fortnight ago, and I've had to clean up one mess too many. If Nick intended to be funny, well and good. Comedians take people getting their noses out of joint as part and parcel of the game because they understand that a joke is often at someone's expense, so he needs to take a page out of their book and deal with it like an adult instead of chucking a hissy fit. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

19 August 2007, 05:00 AM	#30
rongmt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: California Posts: 107	Bit different in the USA: 1. Park your car at the mall lot along with the 5,000 other cars. 2. Walk into the climate-controlled mall and past all the GAP, Spencer's Gifts, E&B Games, and other chain stores that inhabit every mall in the USA. 3. Grab a Cinnabon and coffee. 4. Look up the ADs (yes, that's plural!) in the Mall. 5. Wander into one of the ADs and get cinnamon and sugar all over the display case while telling the salesperson that the other AD in the mall has better prices (except if it's Tourneau, they'll know you're lying!). 6. Drool over the dozens of watches in the case and narrow in on the one you really want and ask to see it. Wipe your hands PLEASE! 7. Ignore the salesperson rushing you because she wants the commission from the diamond ring the other person is going to buy on the spot and you're wasting her time. 7. Plead for a discount - any discount. 8. Whip out your credit card and pay for it. 9. Have them size it (assuming they have the tools to do it). 10. Have them fill in the warranty paper (the watch probably has been there for 2 years already) 11. Take the watch home and check for any flaws. __________________ 1992 TT GMT II (E) with Luminova upgrade 2004 TT GMT II (U) with slate Serti dial 2006 Sea-Dweller (R) 2007 TT Sub (Z) with slate Serti dial 2004 Breitling Emergency Ti w/Blue dial and co-pilot module

16 August 2007, 10:58 PM	#2
Arby "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Ron Location: NJ Posts: 726	Whoa, whoa, whoa... can cooler heads prevail here? I've been here only a few months now and seen how these arguments get completely blown out of proportion. Once you fellas settle down and think it over it's only a place for enthusiests to talk about watches. Nick, your opinion of us not knowing how to use a loupe as a blanket statement may be true in my point (I had no idea what a loupe was a few years ago). But some people like JJ (and others) that do know how to use one may have been taken aback and thought it may have been snobbish. In JJ's case it may have been a case of Sheep Deprevation... umm... I mean Sleep Deprevation (I'm joking ) There's been a couple of high profile members falling on swords lately making a big production of leaving. This may not be one of the bigger production jobs but it is one none the less. Once you say you're leaving it makes it hard to come back when you think it over and see how foolish the argument was. Nick, if you are going to leave, then leave. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your informative posts. Hate to see it end over such a paultry reason as being able to or not being able to use a Loupe... P.S. For those now knowing how to use a loupe I Yahoo Searched "how to loupe" and found 10+ pages on directions.

16 August 2007, 09:04 PM	#7
timebroker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Filip Location: Belgium Posts: 1,619	Inspected a DJ with a loupe yesterday, if I would not have done that I probably would have bought a fake one ... simple as that, everything was scary perfect on the dial except the crown was off centered to the 12 o'clock.

16 August 2007, 09:36 PM	#9
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Scratch on the bezel or bracelet is not really a big deal to me, as I am going to put those on myself withing a couple weeks of wearing. But, the Dial. That is a different matter. There is only one way for a scratch, blemish, lint, etc.. to be there and that is through poor QC.

17 August 2007, 03:15 AM	#13
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	16. Repeat monthly.

17 August 2007, 04:33 AM	#14
Obsession Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Aykun Location: Istanbul/Turkey Watch: Tissot Seastar Posts: 804	unfortunutely, none of them I just look from the window since 7 years to Oyster Collection and in few minutes I leave and after few minutes again I come back and look again to the beauty of watches in that decoration and throw this dream to my heart that's all, I'm sure that if I enter inside they will not care about me cause I cant buy a TT yet and I dont want SS.

17 August 2007, 01:44 PM	#20
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Posted some instructions for JJ on the Open Discussion Forum Board, since JJ has some issues.

18 August 2007, 05:29 PM	#24
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	JJ was posting in jest but Nick sees that as his job, so he cannot "lay down his arms" for the sake of the joke. He does take it seriously! That right there limits his sense of humor in the subject I think, just like if you shop for cars you kick the tires, then any car salesman will jibe you about doing that. ANYWAY..... I have been here about a year and see folks come and go and life goes on. I got all bent out of shape when we lost C.J. and Amanda but I'm relaxing more now. The forums evolve and one day JJ may even call it quits. Who knows.

19 August 2007, 03:50 AM	#27
puffnmo Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 848	This is one RED HOT thread. I need to get a Red Bull with lots of ice, the Alexander McCall Smith novel I'm reading and a nice Ashton Cabinet, take 'em out on the patio and kick back. And for good measure I'm wearing my white Daytona. Have a great weekend, all of you! Larry.

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