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esm · 28 December 2011, 04:51 PM

I think helping out/make contribution to the running expenses of an online forum is a good cause.
I once asked if it was possible to make a donation to the forum and not to have the colour of my name changed - the request was denied by the boss

esm · 28 December 2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbeth

I agree Carl and I have no issue with things as they are. However, for the for sale section, I already have explained my thoughts on that as I feel anyone to post ads should be a paying member. Support the system that supports you to make money. All the excellent TRF sellers here do support the system and always donate to giveaways. Not fair on them to be the only supporters is it??

If you make those sellers to pay for the right to sell... Then wouldn't it be the same as the eBay?
In that case, wouldn't TRF has to sort out any compliants and bad sales?

Lol-x · 28 December 2011, 05:11 PM

We are not running a 'commercial enterprise' here.

We are not engaged in 'trade and commerce' here.

You will not find advertising banners popping up or getting in the way because we don't do that, unlike many other sites.

TRF is and has always been free. However, it does cost money to operate and I am very appreciative of the fantastic support received, but I would in no way shun those who do not wish to financially contribute. In fact in some respects funding it myself entirely is still an open option for me, due to my fortunate personal financial situation with my 9-5 job and income therefrom.

I do truly appreciate all the support received for the forum, and I do feel allowing members to contribute unites members and gives them pleasure and self-satisfaction in helping out, but again it is entirely voluntary and a personal matter.

kilyung · 29 December 2011, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

We are not running a 'commercial enterprise' here.

We are not engaged in 'trade and commerce' here.

You will not find advertising banners popping up or getting in the way because we don't do that, unlike many other sites.

TRF is and has always been free. However, it does cost money to operate and I am very appreciative of the fantastic support received, but I would in no way shun those who do not wish to financially contribute. In fact in some respects funding it myself entirely is still an open option for me, due to my fortunate personal financial situation with my 9-5 job and income therefrom.

I do truly appreciate all the support received for the forum, and I do feel allowing members to contribute unites members and gives them pleasure and self-satisfaction in helping out, but again it is entirely voluntary and a personal matter.

Not much else to be said. Many thanks Steve for an awesome job!

theloxmyth · 29 December 2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

We are not running a 'commercial enterprise' here.

We are not engaged in 'trade and commerce' here.

You will not find advertising banners popping up or getting in the way because we don't do that, unlike many other sites.

TRF is and has always been free. However, it does cost money to operate and I am very appreciative of the fantastic support received, but I would in no way shun those who do not wish to financially contribute. In fact in some respects funding it myself entirely is still an open option for me, due to my fortunate personal financial situation with my 9-5 job and income therefrom.

I do truly appreciate all the support received for the forum, and I do feel allowing members to contribute unites members and gives them pleasure and self-satisfaction in helping out, but again it is entirely voluntary and a personal matter.

It's my pleasure to be here.

Glad you care enough to provide us with max bandwidth and the new forum security, kind sir.

moviefreak · 28 December 2011, 05:33 PM

The fact that TRF does not force you to "buy" your right to sell some stuff, "buy" a special merchant membership...is what makes it great...knowledge is free for everyone...

Rallyboat · 28 December 2011, 08:09 PM

Read all of these posts and I must admit this year I did not become a pledged member. A lot of people seem to say you should become one if you wish to sell on here as you might make a profit yes I agree but just because you pledge does not mean that you are a trusted seller if you want that then maybe you should give trusted sellers and we know who they are something different so that new members know at a glance. Like most have said let's make 2012 year of the pledge.

DiamondJack · 28 December 2011, 08:45 PM

For me..... paying a few $'s to help out a forum that doesn't have wall to wall adverts is more than fair compensation.......

I just can't stand those sites where the whole purpose is to try to make the site owners money.......

The fact that TRF doesn't operate that way is a real breath of fresh air and I will HAPPILY continue to contribute towards running costs or whatever else is required to keep it that way. Long may TRF continue in it's current and fantastic form

ArcticMoose · 28 December 2011, 08:46 PM

I'd be happy to if there were other payment options than PayPal. There is no way I'm giving those thieves any of my details.

DiamondJack · 28 December 2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

I'd be happy to if there were other payment options than PayPal. There is no way I'm giving those thieves any of my details.

I've personally never had a problem with paypal and use it regularly..... What's the issue?

warren G. · 29 December 2011, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DiamondJack

I've personally never had a problem with paypal and use it regularly..... What's the issue?

Eh some people have strong feelings against PayPal.

http://www.screw-paypal.com/

figbo · 29 December 2011, 02:31 AM

Threads like this one never ends well.

btrue · 29 December 2011, 03:08 AM

I have used this site for two months and I would like to pledge in 2012. I hate PayPal, and I would sooner send a check to a complete stranger than give PayPal a single dime of my money. Is there another way to pay?

TheVTCGuy · 29 December 2011, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btrue

I have used this site for two months and I would like to pledge in 2012. I hate PayPal, and I would sooner send a check to a complete stranger than give PayPal a single dime of my money. Is there another way to pay?

This seems to be a re-occuring theme, I personally don't have a problem with Pay-Pal but certainly understand someone's desire not to use it. Mods, is there another way they can donate? If not, I think a method should be set up

ArcticMoose · 29 December 2011, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamondJack

I've personally never had a problem with paypal and use it regularly..... What's the issue?

First of all, eBay did absolutely nothing to help when I got screwed there, my feedback was damaged while the criminal's feedback was not, not to mention the monetary loss. There was no helpful customer support. PayPal is owned by eBay, and I can't imagine PayPal is any better. When eBay tried to force PayPal on me I cancelled my eBay account.

Secondly, the PayPal terms and conditions are absolutely unacceptable. I will not give any company that type of access to my bank account or credit cards, ever.

Here are just a few more:
http://voices.yahoo.com/seven-reason...al-337040.html

speedo · 30 December 2011, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

First of all, eBay did absolutely nothing to help when I got screwed there, my feedback was damaged while the criminal's feedback was not, not to mention the monetary loss. There was no helpful customer support. PayPal is owned by eBay, and I can't imagine PayPal is any better. When eBay tried to force PayPal on me I cancelled my eBay account.

Secondly, the PayPal terms and conditions are absolutely unacceptable. I will not give any company that type of access to my bank account or credit cards, ever.

Here are just a few more:
http://voices.yahoo.com/seven-reason...al-337040.html

put a limit on your card, have a card only for paypal and online shopping etc. there are so many options....
you have already more companies and people looking into your personal details you can ever imagine.

Warnsboy · 29 December 2011, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

I'd be happy to if there were other payment options than PayPal. There is no way I'm giving those thieves any of my details.

A Moose with principles shared by many!

TattooedGQ · 29 December 2011, 02:00 AM

I was a 2010 Pledge member, and upped my pledge status with almost every contest....I missed the 2011 post for pledges and by the time I saw it I missed out on the contest I would have wanted to join.....so I figured I'd just wait for 2012.

Welshwatchman · 29 December 2011, 02:21 AM

The thought about making the FS section postable (or even viewable) to "Pledgies only" has been aired by many members and on different occasions.

There are arguments for and against this action and I'm not stating mine publicly. Up to and as of today the consensus of mod/admin staff is that the resource is open to all.

Those who care to pledge will do so, that's about it.

Lion · 29 December 2011, 06:09 AM

I also fall in the camp that does not use Pay-Pal and would love to see an option to pay by personal check!!!

cgjane · 29 December 2011, 06:20 AM

It is up to the person to donate or not, it is their money.

I do not want nobody to tell me (or make me feel bad) about what to do with it.

I do not give merit to peoples "titles" only the quality of their posts.

Be nice to everyone you meet, they have their own cross to bear.

mtrunner · 29 December 2011, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgjane

It is up to the person to donate or not, it is their money.

I do not want nobody to tell me (or make me feel bad) about what to do with it.

I do not give merit to peoples "titles" only the quality of their posts.

Be nice to everyone you meet, they have their own cross to bear.

Agreed. In addition, we do not know what is happening in someone's life. This is a watch forum and the watches we all enjoy are not cheap but that does not mean people do not fall down on their luck or have other financial obligations. Life is full of surprises and unexpected events. We should never make anyone not feel welcome or feel they are considered a lesser member because they did not donate.

Jocke · 29 December 2011, 06:24 AM

A simple Swedish proverb:

Once a pledge member always a pledge member.

TSW · 29 December 2011, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

A simple Swedish proverb:

Once a pledge member always a pledge member.

Amen

MonBK · 29 December 2011, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

A simple Swedish proverb:

Once a pledge member always a pledge member.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSW

Amen

hallelujah

Rags · 29 December 2011, 07:12 AM

This is a great forum & I am very happy to contribute.

drtooth73 · 29 December 2011, 10:25 AM

how about pay-per-post?

threemonkeys · 29 December 2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by drtooth73

how about pay-per-post?

Or maybe just add a surcharge to the most most attractive TRF members' pledge dues.

77T · 29 December 2011, 11:30 AM

Stick a fork in it - this topic's done!

figbo · 30 December 2011, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Stick a fork in it - this topic's done!

Here,you do it!!

28 December 2011, 05:11 PM	#3
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,589	We are not running a 'commercial enterprise' here. We are not engaged in 'trade and commerce' here. You will not find advertising banners popping up or getting in the way because we don't do that, unlike many other sites. TRF is and has always been free. However, it does cost money to operate and I am very appreciative of the fantastic support received, but I would in no way shun those who do not wish to financially contribute. In fact in some respects funding it myself entirely is still an open option for me, due to my fortunate personal financial situation with my 9-5 job and income therefrom. I do truly appreciate all the support received for the forum, and I do feel allowing members to contribute unites members and gives them pleasure and self-satisfaction in helping out, but again it is entirely voluntary and a personal matter. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

28 December 2011, 05:33 PM	#6
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	The fact that TRF does not force you to "buy" your right to sell some stuff, "buy" a special merchant membership...is what makes it great...knowledge is free for everyone... __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

29 December 2011, 02:31 AM	#12
figbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: El Raf-O Location: florida Watch: tt GMT2c,Omega Posts: 19,687	Threads like this one never ends well. __________________ member # 9862 Best bartender in the world!! Last of the Bastid Tossers p club member #9

29 December 2011, 02:00 AM	#18
TattooedGQ "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: NY, USA Watch: yo self! Posts: 2,686	I was a 2010 Pledge member, and upped my pledge status with almost every contest....I missed the 2011 post for pledges and by the time I saw it I missed out on the contest I would have wanted to join.....so I figured I'd just wait for 2012. __________________ That boy's got the Devil in him. Rolex: I think I'm up to 9?? Omega: Got a few of those too. Breitling: And some of these.

29 December 2011, 02:21 AM	#19
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	The thought about making the FS section postable (or even viewable) to "Pledgies only" has been aired by many members and on different occasions. There are arguments for and against this action and I'm not stating mine publicly. Up to and as of today the consensus of mod/admin staff is that the resource is open to all. Those who care to pledge will do so, that's about it. __________________ ..33

28 December 2011, 04:51 PM	#1
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	I think helping out/make contribution to the running expenses of an online forum is a good cause. I once asked if it was possible to make a donation to the forum and not to have the colour of my name changed - the request was denied by the boss

28 December 2011, 08:09 PM	#7
Rallyboat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Tim Location: Wales, UK Posts: 176	Read all of these posts and I must admit this year I did not become a pledged member. A lot of people seem to say you should become one if you wish to sell on here as you might make a profit yes I agree but just because you pledge does not mean that you are a trusted seller if you want that then maybe you should give trusted sellers and we know who they are something different so that new members know at a glance. Like most have said let's make 2012 year of the pledge.

28 December 2011, 08:45 PM	#8
DiamondJack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London Watch: Quite a few Posts: 4,315	For me..... paying a few $'s to help out a forum that doesn't have wall to wall adverts is more than fair compensation....... I just can't stand those sites where the whole purpose is to try to make the site owners money....... The fact that TRF doesn't operate that way is a real breath of fresh air and I will HAPPILY continue to contribute towards running costs or whatever else is required to keep it that way. Long may TRF continue in it's current and fantastic form

28 December 2011, 08:46 PM	#9
ArcticMoose "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Sea Posts: 1,894	I'd be happy to if there were other payment options than PayPal. There is no way I'm giving those thieves any of my details.

29 December 2011, 03:08 AM	#13
btrue Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Bill Location: Indianapolis Watch: GMT IIC; PAM 005 Posts: 244	I have used this site for two months and I would like to pledge in 2012. I hate PayPal, and I would sooner send a check to a complete stranger than give PayPal a single dime of my money. Is there another way to pay?

29 December 2011, 06:09 AM	#20
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	I also fall in the camp that does not use Pay-Pal and would love to see an option to pay by personal check!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

29 December 2011, 06:20 AM	#21
cgjane "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Houston Watch: 116509 BlackArabic Posts: 1,176	It is up to the person to donate or not, it is their money. I do not want nobody to tell me (or make me feel bad) about what to do with it. I do not give merit to peoples "titles" only the quality of their posts. Be nice to everyone you meet, they have their own cross to bear. __________________ Life is an adventure or nothing at all.

29 December 2011, 06:24 AM	#23
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	A simple Swedish proverb: Once a pledge member always a pledge member. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

29 December 2011, 07:12 AM	#26
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	This is a great forum & I am very happy to contribute. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

29 December 2011, 10:25 AM	#27
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	how about pay-per-post?

29 December 2011, 11:30 AM	#29
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	Stick a fork in it - this topic's done! __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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