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scocope · 20 January 2012, 01:53 PM

"He said I cant wait to pay till he gets home to take more pics for me"
If the cant is can't (can not) I'd be very leery. Why would a few hours or even a few days make that much diference to a legit seller?

rjmarti · 20 January 2012, 02:25 PM

Oops. iPhone typo. He said I CAN wait to pay.

RolexWatcher · 20 January 2012, 02:31 PM

Why don't you do as a member suggested and ask him for more pics that shows he has the watch with him (e.g. put today's date, his ebay name and a certain time on the watch suggested by you) - all macro, high resolution shots?

Let us know how it gets on.

RolexSA · 20 January 2012, 06:12 PM

Looks good . Wait for more pictures confirming he holds the item .
Good luck !

rjmarti · 23 January 2012, 07:39 AM

This is what his wife took. I can wait he said till he is home for more pics. And if Im happy I can pay him then.

rjmarti · 24 January 2012, 12:34 AM

Shouldn't the words on the back of the watch be black or does the color fade with wear ?

RolexSA · 24 January 2012, 12:57 AM

Light and angle can make a big difference . Looks good to me .

rjmarti · 24 January 2012, 05:30 AM

Here we go. How do these look ?

rjmarti · 25 January 2012, 07:17 AM

Anyone else have an opinion if it's real or not ?

mrbill2mrbill2 · 25 January 2012, 08:44 AM

How does one scratch a bracelet that bad? What does the case look like? From the pics this watch
has had a rough life.

IMO unless the price is really good - Run Forest Run!

dieseldragon · 25 January 2012, 03:47 PM

If price is good, buy it. The bracelet has some marks and looks a bit stretched, but would look fine if refinished and buff the case. At least with this watch you wouldnt be afraid to use it!

britincali · 25 January 2012, 06:41 PM

Is it just the pic or is the 1st top link all bent to shit?

Changmaisausage · 26 January 2012, 04:55 PM

look the guy has met all your requests if the price is right, go for it. It looks fine to me (not the most experienced in buying used watches off ebay)

Andad · 26 January 2012, 05:01 PM

That would need to be real cheap you make it worth buying.

It was $4150 and that looks way high for an SD in this condition???

I'd like a side shot to check the bezel.

rjmarti · 27 January 2012, 08:07 AM

It's 4,000 now. Do you really think its a poor value because of the scratches on the bracelet? It comes with everything and had never been polished. I felt pretty confident with the bracelet work myself. I was just worried that it wasn't a fake, and the only thing I worried about at this point was the wording engraved on the rear of the watch, it doesn't look black.

PGAPRO · 27 January 2012, 10:58 AM

Not worth anything near 4,000. Like the man said...RUN!

rjmarti · 31 January 2012, 02:34 AM

Does the normal dark black color wording on the back ever wear off ? Or is this just bad pictures ?

Sarajevo · 31 January 2012, 07:47 AM

The pictures are not great but it does look original (albeit lived in) from what can be seen. I agree with other sellers re suspicions due to lack of pictures.

Is the crown right? Hard to see (again) but it looks as if it is sheer, without the crown logo.

rjmarti · 31 January 2012, 08:21 AM

No it has the crown and three dots. He told me he took the watch to a reputable jeweler and gave me the web site to contact them. I talked to the Jewler today. He confirmed the authenticity of the papers/watch and that the serial numbers matched, but would not give a estimate about its condition except that he told me there is nothing glaringly obvious bad.

It seems to be what they have claimed it to be from the beginning. A watch worn for a few years then no longer worn and left in a safe deposit box and then after a divorce neither the mother who gave it or the father who got it want it.

23 January 2012, 07:39 AM	#35
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	This is what his wife took. I can wait he said till he is home for more pics. And if Im happy I can pay him then. Attached Images

24 January 2012, 05:30 AM	#38
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	Here we go. How do these look ? Attached Images

25 January 2012, 08:44 AM	#40
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	How does one scratch a bracelet that bad? What does the case look like? From the pics this watch has had a rough life. IMO unless the price is really good - Run Forest Run! __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

25 January 2012, 03:47 PM	#41
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	If price is good, buy it. The bracelet has some marks and looks a bit stretched, but would look fine if refinished and buff the case. At least with this watch you wouldnt be afraid to use it! __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

25 January 2012, 06:41 PM	#42
britincali "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: North Wales UK Watch: 16600,16570,6098 Posts: 706	Is it just the pic or is the 1st top link all bent to shit? __________________ Prick club member # 6 P 16600 M Polar EXP II 1951 Waffle dial 6098 https://www.facebook.com/LlwynFfynnon

20 January 2012, 01:53 PM	#31
scocope Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Posts: 108	"He said I cant wait to pay till he gets home to take more pics for me" If the cant is can't (can not) I'd be very leery. Why would a few hours or even a few days make that much diference to a legit seller?

20 January 2012, 02:25 PM	#32
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	Oops. iPhone typo. He said I CAN wait to pay.

20 January 2012, 02:31 PM	#33
RolexWatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Vincent Location: LON HKG SYD Posts: 1,236	Why don't you do as a member suggested and ask him for more pics that shows he has the watch with him (e.g. put today's date, his ebay name and a certain time on the watch suggested by you) - all macro, high resolution shots? Let us know how it gets on.

20 January 2012, 06:12 PM	#34
RolexSA Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 318	Looks good . Wait for more pictures confirming he holds the item . Good luck !

24 January 2012, 12:34 AM	#36
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	Shouldn't the words on the back of the watch be black or does the color fade with wear ?

24 January 2012, 12:57 AM	#37
RolexSA Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 318	Light and angle can make a big difference . Looks good to me .

25 January 2012, 07:17 AM	#39
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	Anyone else have an opinion if it's real or not ?

26 January 2012, 04:55 PM	#43
Changmaisausage "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: David Location: UK/Qatar Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 470	look the guy has met all your requests if the price is right, go for it. It looks fine to me (not the most experienced in buying used watches off ebay) __________________ Patek Phillipe / Rolex / Tudor

26 January 2012, 05:01 PM	#44
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,521	That would need to be real cheap you make it worth buying. It was $4150 and that looks way high for an SD in this condition??? I'd like a side shot to check the bezel. __________________ E

27 January 2012, 08:07 AM	#45
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	It's 4,000 now. Do you really think its a poor value because of the scratches on the bracelet? It comes with everything and had never been polished. I felt pretty confident with the bracelet work myself. I was just worried that it wasn't a fake, and the only thing I worried about at this point was the wording engraved on the rear of the watch, it doesn't look black.

27 January 2012, 10:58 AM	#46
PGAPRO "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US Watch: Rolex WG Daytona Posts: 747	Not worth anything near 4,000. Like the man said...RUN!

31 January 2012, 02:34 AM	#47
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	Does the normal dark black color wording on the back ever wear off ? Or is this just bad pictures ?

31 January 2012, 07:47 AM	#48
Sarajevo "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The Netherlands Watch: 16600371701 Posts: 1,271	The pictures are not great but it does look original (albeit lived in) from what can be seen. I agree with other sellers re suspicions due to lack of pictures. Is the crown right? Hard to see (again) but it looks as if it is sheer, without the crown logo.

31 January 2012, 08:21 AM	#49
rjmarti Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 91	No it has the crown and three dots. He told me he took the watch to a reputable jeweler and gave me the web site to contact them. I talked to the Jewler today. He confirmed the authenticity of the papers/watch and that the serial numbers matched, but would not give a estimate about its condition except that he told me there is nothing glaringly obvious bad. It seems to be what they have claimed it to be from the beginning. A watch worn for a few years then no longer worn and left in a safe deposit box and then after a divorce neither the mother who gave it or the father who got it want it.

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