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GradyPhilpott · 8 March 2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by stockae92

14060M is the last Sub ..

Now its truely Sub and Sub ND ... (it used to be Sub Date and Sub) :(

Yep.

Boothroyd · 8 March 2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Five years from now, a new cohort of buyers will look at those of us who wear a 14060M or a 114270 and think that we are hopelessly trapped in a cheap and inferior past.

Rolex has been around long enough to know that changes will upset the aging traditionalists, but the future is with the young looking for something fresh.

Rolex has managed to keep the lineup within that balance for a long time.

I've got mine, let the young drive the market now.

Best post yet, Grady.

Dr. Robert · 8 March 2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Five years from now, a new cohort of buyers will look at those of us who wear a 14060M or a 114270 and think that we are hopelessly trapped in a cheap and inferior past.

Rolex has been around long enough to know that changes will upset the aging traditionalists, but the future is with the young looking for something fresh.

Rolex has managed to keep the lineup within that balance for a long time.

I've got mine, let the young drive the market now.

Five years from now, young dudes will still be buying vintage Rolex & Tudor watches......go into "Wanna Buy a Watch" on Melrose Ave. in L.A., young guys buying vintage, look at the fashion mags....."Madmen" show driving up the popularity of vintage.....I'd much rather have a Newman daytona than all the new ones.

EmpireCity · 8 March 2012, 09:53 AM

Makes us feel that much luckier we got ours!

bigwatchman · 8 March 2012, 10:51 AM

So does this mean that we are at the beginning of calling the 14060m a vintage watch?

itchy243mhz · 8 March 2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bigwatchman

So does this mean that we are at the beginning of calling the 14060m a vintage watch?

Kind of sounds a like that, depends on you perspective. Maybe nostalgic is a fast way.

bigwatchman · 8 March 2012, 11:28 AM

I have always considered mine as a modern-vintage. Since it is no longer made, it now has to be vintage. I don't have a problem with that. New is new... but these lug-holes will live on forever.

subtona · 8 March 2012, 11:36 AM

i just started similar thread, sorry i looked quick but didn't see this...

i shall speak fondly of them to other wis and non-wis whenever the opportunity arrises.

farewell... IGM

LTM · 8 March 2012, 11:39 AM

All good things... got to come to an end.... that's how we know what's good!

http://youtu.be/tEWSOPUfYF0

wokafu · 8 March 2012, 11:45 AM

hmm....i wonder do people still looking for the 14060M after this...

bigwatchman · 8 March 2012, 12:09 PM

What do you think this will do to values of 14060s? I will assume they are going to be headed slightly North in the near future. Question is, how much?

hdrazor251 · 8 March 2012, 01:54 PM

Just one more sign of the Apocalypse.

Dr. Robert · 8 March 2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hdrazor251

Just one more sign of the Apocalypse.

and that ladies & gentlemen is why I'm going to party like it's 1999

Dan2010 · 8 March 2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

and that ladies & gentlemen is why I'm going to party like it's 1999

Always looking for an excuse to party aren't you??

lebowski321 · 8 March 2012, 02:54 PM

I am a lug hole fan

subkrawler · 8 March 2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by A.J.R.

I have to ask, what is the deal with the lug holes and why do they make such a difference?

The spring-bar ends seat further into the lugs with lug holes, thus rendering a more secure fit. The deeper in they go, the less likely they are to pull out. They also allow the bracelet to be removed with something as simple as a straightened paper clip, or a tooth pick, so you don't need a specialized spring-bar tool.

subtona · 9 March 2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by A.J.R.

I have to ask, what is the deal with the lug holes and why do they make such a difference?

the lugholes are a very simple solution to bracelet removal, doing away with them imho was a step backwards in development.

the tiny fork tool required for bracelet removal without lugholes, invariably scratches the back lugs of the watch (i've had RSC offer this service for me as well... ie scratching the back of my watch)

simply they were removed imo for selfish reasons (business) by rolex... to make proprietary bracelets & to exclude many aftermarket options....

viva la lughole

TempoKing · 9 March 2012, 12:49 AM

Getting rid of the holes
Rolex got rid of holes because they know I can not see very well
So when I want to see a serial number I am poking 2-3 times around the hole
and by the time i get to press the pin I have scratched the case in 2 - 3 places
For me this was a blessing.

Speed · 9 March 2012, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wokafu

hmm....i wonder do people still looking for the 14060M after this...

In a word. Yes.

gt0279a · 9 March 2012, 04:28 AM

My local AD had 3 14060Ms sitting in with all the Ceramic Subs.

Saleswoman said I was the first to inquire about them in about 6 months.

They were out of stock on the SS Sub and GMT II.

How every much we may not like it, catering to the bling crown is big business.

The Joker · 9 March 2012, 04:41 AM

What is it with these lug holes. I'll take the looks of vintage stuff over modern any day of the week when we are talking about cases/dials etc. But they are just holes, surely the cleaner look without is better. Surely these holes are just gonna collect grit and dirt.

So you can get the strap out easier. Just get the right tool for a couple bucks and Voilà. Just as easy.

ersnyder · 9 March 2012, 04:43 AM

C'mon Doc, take a deep breath; not the end of life as we know it!

Maxfli · 9 March 2012, 05:00 AM

Makes me cherish my lug-hole Sub that much more!

gargamel647 · 9 March 2012, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ersnyder

C'mon Doc, take a deep breath; not the end of life as we know it!

Dr. Robert · 9 March 2012, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ersnyder

C'mon Doc, take a deep breath; not the end of life as we know it!

Bah humbug, it's the end of life AS I KNOW IT

Dr. Robert · 9 March 2012, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

What is it with these lug holes. I'll take the looks of vintage stuff over modern any day of the week when we are talking about cases/dials etc. But they are just holes, surely the cleaner look without is better. Surely these holes are just gonna collect grit and dirt.

So you can get the strap out easier. Just get the right tool for a couple bucks and Voilà. Just as easy.

Bah humbug, with lug holes I can remove straps & bracelets w/ no chance of scratches & I can use a toothpick or paper clip, no need for specialized tools.
And as far as grit accumulating, none, nada........

Dr. Robert · 9 March 2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan2010

Always looking for an excuse to party aren't you??

Yes, si, ja, oui, da, hai

Lagunatic · 9 March 2012, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gwalker

Unfortunately that's how it goes. I mean the 63 split window Corvette was an amazing model in its day but there is nothing wrong with new and improved. You can always buy vintage if you so desire.

The 63 split window Corvette was my favorite Sting Ray.

thewatchguy93 · 9 March 2012, 07:07 AM

Your getting more SS for your money, its not so bad when you look at it like that..

rfknauss · 9 March 2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Bah humbug, with lug holes I can remove straps & bracelets w/ no chance of scratches & I can use a toothpick or paper clip, no need for specialized tools.
And as far as grit accumulating, none, nada........

Dr. Robert speaks the truth!

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9 March 2012, 07:07 AM	#59
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8 March 2012, 09:53 AM	#34
EmpireCity "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Canada Watch: 16610, 124270 Posts: 325	Makes us feel that much luckier we got ours!

8 March 2012, 10:51 AM	#35
bigwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,307	So does this mean that we are at the beginning of calling the 14060m a vintage watch?

8 March 2012, 11:28 AM	#37
bigwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,307	I have always considered mine as a modern-vintage. Since it is no longer made, it now has to be vintage. I don't have a problem with that. New is new... but these lug-holes will live on forever.

8 March 2012, 11:39 AM	#39
LTM Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: SoCar Watch: GMT & Sub-C Posts: 128	All good things... got to come to an end.... that's how we know what's good! http://youtu.be/tEWSOPUfYF0

8 March 2012, 11:45 AM	#40
wokafu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: SM300+14060M Posts: 2,012	hmm....i wonder do people still looking for the 14060M after this...

8 March 2012, 12:09 PM	#41
bigwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,307	What do you think this will do to values of 14060s? I will assume they are going to be headed slightly North in the near future. Question is, how much?

8 March 2012, 02:54 PM	#45
lebowski321 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tyler Location: Hill Country, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 496	I am a lug hole fan

9 March 2012, 12:49 AM	#48
TempoKing Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Anastasios Location: Athens Greece Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 8,497	Getting rid of the holes Rolex got rid of holes because they know I can not see very well So when I want to see a serial number I am poking 2-3 times around the hole and by the time i get to press the pin I have scratched the case in 2 - 3 places For me this was a blessing.

9 March 2012, 04:28 AM	#50
gt0279a "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: Georgia Watch: All of them Posts: 579	My local AD had 3 14060Ms sitting in with all the Ceramic Subs. Saleswoman said I was the first to inquire about them in about 6 months. They were out of stock on the SS Sub and GMT II. How every much we may not like it, catering to the bling crown is big business.

9 March 2012, 04:41 AM	#51
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,641	What is it with these lug holes. I'll take the looks of vintage stuff over modern any day of the week when we are talking about cases/dials etc. But they are just holes, surely the cleaner look without is better. Surely these holes are just gonna collect grit and dirt. So you can get the strap out easier. Just get the right tool for a couple bucks and Voilà. Just as easy.

9 March 2012, 04:43 AM	#52
ersnyder 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: Long Beach CA USA Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 4,102	C'mon Doc, take a deep breath; not the end of life as we know it!

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