TRF *Tudor Rolex Forum*

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Originally Posted by patrick09

Since Tudor seems set to become a dominate player in the retro/sports model seas and Rolex is going more toward the executive bored room in the sky (pun intended) perhaps Tudor should get a seat at the table so to speak.

Has the new Tudor line won over any 'its a Rolex or nothing fans" ?

If you mean a Tudor-specific section on the forums I vote YES, particularly as they branch out and further distance themselves from Rolex designs and philosophy.

[Rollie2011]

Not a fan of any Tudor models

[HL65]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

The Pelagos is an awesome new model.

What a brilliant modern interpretation of the vintage Snowflake.

Most of you guys will be buying a Sky-Dweller anyway, so I'll enjoy the Pelagos by myself

I will be enjoying the Black Bay myself Stevo! Can't wait till July!
Both the new Tudors are awesome though!

[Kingair]

To be honest, Tudor done a better job than Rolex did !
my .02

[nowzen]

Originally Posted by Kingair

To be honest Tudor done a better job than rolex did ?
my .02

2X

starting to look that way with the bling coming from rolex

[Hooper]

Originally Posted by rad87gn

Tudor is priced where Rolex used to be. Every price hike is moving Rolex further and further out of the price range of a upper and middle class family.

I would agree Chad, starting to wonder about future Rolex purchases, they need to relax with the price increases ! However the Tudors are great and well within price range !!

[Kingair]

Here's another shot of mine
Love it on the NATO
My wife even more ;-)

[Lol-x]

Tudor Subs do look great on NATO straps.

[slcbbrown]

I like the "tudor rolex forum".

[Tudor66]

Here's why I like my Tudor 7928 so much..

-Rolex Submariner heritage and bones.
-Fewer tudor Subs out there compared to Rolex
-1/3 the cost of a Rolex Sub makes it easy to get into the vintage market...I've gotten quite a few compliments on this watch, though they were all from WIS type of folks.
-My wife thought it was just an old watch of no value...I reminded here that it was made in her birth year by Rolex, so now she will be wearing it when I get it back from service... Fine by me....

[VAWATCHGUY]

I struggle to see the interest in Tudor. To me it's like owning a Lexus IS-F and then suddenly seeing interest in a Toyota Corolla. Or going from an Infiniti G37 to a Nissan Altima. Some similarities, but very different vehicles. What am I missing? Every time I see one it just looks like a knock off Rolex. Which it is.

[doktordisko]

Originally Posted by nowzen

2X

starting to look that way with the bling coming from rolex

x3

However, the more I look at the Sky Dweller, the more it grows on me, and the more I think it makes sense...except for the price

[horseco]

I am a precious metal wearer, so Tudor is out for me... but I like them...

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by VAWATCHGUY

I struggle to see the interest in Tudor. To me it's like owning a Lexus IS-F and then suddenly seeing interest in a Toyota Corolla. Or going from an Infiniti G37 to a Nissan Altima. Some similarities, but very different vehicles. What am I missing? Every time I see one it just looks like a knock off Rolex. Which it is.

Knock off?

A little knowledge will go a long way.
dP

[george..k]

Originally Posted by Kingair

Here's another shot of mine
Love it on the NATO
My wife even more ;-)

Why does that crown look so small? I'm guessing its not the original crown.

[VAWATCHGUY]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

A little knowledge will go a long way.
dP

Dan, I certainly do not know it all, but as I understand, the movement is not the same on these (Tudor uses ETA). To me, that makes them two very different watches. If it is not a knock off, what is it? Same case on the outside and different guts. Very bug difference.

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by VAWATCHGUY

Dan, I certainly do not know it all, but as I understand, the movement is not the same on these (Tudor uses ETA). To me, that makes them two very different watches. If it is not a knock off, what is it? Same case on the outside and different guts. Very bug difference.

I never said there was no difference, there certainly is. But knock off? Ever been to Canal Street? A knock off is outright deceit. The Tudor brand is hiding nothing, stands on it's own with a rich history.
dP

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by 2th DR

Not "won over"... I've been a fan almost as long as I've owned Rolex.

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There are a number of real great looking Tudor watches.

It just to bad they don't currently sell them in the States.

Hopefully this will change in the near future.

[cornerstore]

Originally Posted by VAWATCHGUY

Dan, I certainly do not know it all, but as I understand, the movement is not the same on these (Tudor uses ETA). To me, that makes them two very different watches. If it is not a knock off, what is it? Same case on the outside and different guts. Very bug difference.

Here is a little info. for you to start educating yourself.

http://www.interwatches.com/rolex-tudor-history

excerpt
"The French Navy used Rolex Tudor watches for its divers, the first Rolex Tudor Submariners were purchased from the Marine Natioinale in the late 60`s. In addition, the same model was used by the US Navy for its UDT and the Navy Seals."

[Annan]

I read recently that Tudor might be starting USA sales again this year. In the meantime, how/where can you find a new one? I've done a quick search on the internet and found a couple of multi-watch dealers that include Tudor, both overseas. Makes me nervous to do business.

[JEC]

Tudor is sold in Canada. You may be able to find a dealer here willing to ship... However, I don't know what the import laws are for Tudors - you can't import a Rolex into the USA as an individual, I would not be surprised if Tudor is the same.

You could always make a trip up north if you are near the border. There are dealers in Ontario and Quebec. You can bring a Rolex across the border on your person, you just can't have it shipped.

[Annan]

Thanks! Not sure I want one but would be curious to take a look. I do get to Toronto now and then.

[azguy]

Tudor's are awesome, just check out this listing, for some of us this is a "better" purchase as it's $5,000 cheaper than a Daytona and in my opinion far cooler in every aspect, plus date

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=220615

I personally think they are mostly undervalued, good solid examples should go for more as they are truly harder to come by. If I could find a perfect blue snowflake, damn right I would buy it it'll be 10x's harder to get in 7-10 years.

There are a couple of big blocks listed for sale on TRF right now and you just don't see it all that often. To be honest I thought about buying both and sitting on them for 10 years, see what happens.....

I think Tudor's should have a "sub" forum rather then using the vintage section, for the most part, as we do now

[George Ab]

Rolex integrating the bezel into the movement with the YM II and now the Sky-Dweller, along with adding a annual calendar and GMT function is horologically significant. Integration of the bezel into the movement is as significant as when Rolex was the first to make an underwater watch or a date to a watch.

I really like Tudor and they are an important co-company with Rolex. However, why not include Sinn, Kobold or so many other companies that make nice cases and drops in an ETA movement? It may look cool, but it is not horologically significant. My point being is Tudor is not in the same league... they make pretty cases.

[Lagunatic]

Originally Posted by VAWATCHGUY

I struggle to see the interest in Tudor. To me it's like owning a Lexus IS-F and then suddenly seeing interest in a Toyota Corolla. Or going from an Infiniti G37 to a Nissan Altima. Some similarities, but very different vehicles. What am I missing? Every time I see one it just looks like a knock off Rolex. Which it is.

[Lagunatic]

You cant buy a Tudor in the States anyway.

[cornerstore]

Originally Posted by George Ab

Rolex integrating the bezel into the movement with the YM II and now the Sky-Dweller, along with adding a annual calendar and GMT function is horologically significant. Integration of the bezel into the movement is as significant as when Rolex was the first to make an underwater watch or a date to a watch.

I really like Tudor and they are an important co-company with Rolex. However, why not include Sinn, Kobold or so many other companies that make nice cases and drops in an ETA movement? It may look cool, but it is not horologically significant. My point being is Tudor is not in the same league... they make pretty cases.

Do those other companies you referance use the Rolex in house modified ETA movements like Tudors use or just the movements as delivered by ETA like IWC use? I quess IWC could be lumped into your comment "they make pretty cases" as well?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna..._Watch_Company

"Movements in the bulk of IWC's lower range watches and chronographs (including the Portuguese Chronograph) use movements delivered directly from Swatch-owned ETA, previously in line with industry practice IWC purchased ebauche kits from ETA and its subsidiary Valjoux which it heavily modified but due to ETA's decision to stop selling ebauche kits to its competitors it now delivers the movements fully completed. It is no longer the case that the Caliber 30110 is a modified ETA 2892A2, and the Caliber 79230/79320/79350 is a modified ETA/Valjoux 7750. The shift began taking place in approximately 2006 according to industry sources and was entirely complete across all movements by 2010."

[Red Series 3]

I regularly will hassle my friends on their Tag Heuer's Omegas and the likes. I refer to them as swatches due to the fact that they all use ETA movements, but looking inside of a tudor shows that Rolex does a lot in the finishing of the movements for these watches. The quality is black and white compared to the ETA versions.
It will be interesting to see what happens as ETA rolls out its stop selling movements to competitors
Omega has started producing in house movements.
Maybe Tudors will be powered by an in house movement again "Rolex"

[FremStar]

Originally Posted by Newbieone

Here's why I like my Tudor 7928 so much..

-Rolex Submariner heritage and bones.
-Fewer tudor Subs out there compared to Rolex
-1/3 the cost of a Rolex Sub makes it easy to get into the vintage market...I've gotten quite a few compliments on this watch, though they were all from WIS type of folks.
-My wife thought it was just an old watch of no value...I reminded her that it was made in her birth year by Rolex, so now she will be wearing it when I get it back from service... Fine by me....

[Chris B]

Preaching to the converted brother lol