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Cabaiguan · 3 June 2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JAGERVEGAS

Umm... Don't put yourself in a bind over a watch, it's not the only one out there, you can find a nice used one, right ?

Yeah, seriously. It's not worth the stress.

fabini · 3 June 2012, 11:36 PM

is it white-yellow or rose gold?? if it is full rose gold then go for it without a flinch, that's a fantastic price the downside though is that pre-owned will cost you about 25-26k as of now. if it is a white gold I wouldn't pay that much the reason is that on white gold you can find a LNIB for about 21-22k. if it is yellow gold its the same deal as the white gold.

Christiaan · 3 June 2012, 11:38 PM

Don't do it. Find one per-owned for less...

snowbird · 3 June 2012, 11:41 PM

As others have said, this is something that's supposed to be fun not a source of financial or emotional stress . . . I would pass.

kilyung · 3 June 2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fabini

if it is a white gold I wouldn't pay that much the reason is that on white gold you can find a LNIB for about 21-22k. if it is yellow gold its the same deal as the white gold.

Point me to the gold SubC for lnib $21-22... I'll buy another at that price!

imono · 3 June 2012, 11:55 PM

Don't be caught up with the price increase and try to save the world!
If you do it and try to sell the very next day you will end up getting your money back.

donas · 4 June 2012, 02:06 AM

I agree with the people who suggested buying here on TRF.....you can do much better than 27G. I recently bought the same watch from Davidsw and couldn't tell it from a bnib.

c.rod · 4 June 2012, 02:13 AM

i dont think i would buy a white gold one for that price under these circumstances.... personally imho white gold looks to much like stainless to justify the huge price jump... :) just me though..

kilyung · 4 June 2012, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by c.rod

i dont think i would buy a white gold one for that price under these circumstances.... personally imho white gold looks to much like stainless to justify the huge price jump... :) just me though..

Actually, there are subtle differences if you put them next to each other in the same lighting. Ymmv but I bought it for myself not others so I don't really care if it's not well differentiated and looks like steel.

jay1988 · 4 June 2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Point me to the gold SubC for lnib $21-22... I'll buy another at that price!

http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/sub...arch/index.htm

Here you go. Enjoy.

Here's one for less than $21k

http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/ref...arch/index.htm

21.5k

http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/sub...arch/index.htm

All mint condition.

kilyung · 4 June 2012, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jay1988

http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/sub...arch/index.htm

Here you go. Enjoy.

Here's one for less than $21k

http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/ref...arch/index.htm

21.5k

http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/sub...arch/index.htm

All mint condition.

Ah but they're overseas for me and importing Rolexes to the US is a pita. I'm guessing those prices don't include vat?

jay1988 · 4 June 2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Ah but they're overseas for me and importing Rolexes to the US is a pita. I'm guessing those prices don't include vat?

The one from the UK definitely does and I'm pretty sure the rest do. This business of excluding VAT is something I've only heard in America. I remember the first time I was shopping in America and I went to the till and my bill went up by about 15%. It's beyond me why you guys do that. Are people supposed to work out percentages as they walk around the store ? In England the price on the tag is what you pay.

That white gold sub from UK is a great deal, unfortunately out of my price range. Come over and catch the Olympics then go home with a new watch

kilyung · 4 June 2012, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jay1988

Come over and catch the Olympics then go home with a new watch

THAT is a capital idea!!

FremStar · 4 June 2012, 03:14 AM

Joey, as the other TRF veterans have stated and as I mentioned to you before do not buy a watch that you cannot readily afford. There is no point in that! Good luck with your move

For Jay and Mike! Seeing those 116619 prices I definitely feel like I overpaid for mine! That $20k price is insane! Great value for that reference and if the seller would work out a deal to include VAT and import duties then that would be a major win!

jay1988 · 4 June 2012, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FremStar

Joey, as the other TRF veterans have stated and as I mentioned to you before do not buy a watch that you cannot readily afford. There is no point in that! Good luck with your move

For Jay and Mike! Seeing those 116619 prices I definitely feel like I overpaid for mine! That $20k price is insane! Great value for that reference and if the seller would work out a deal to include VAT and import duties then that would be a major win!

Sam if you already have one you could sort of "adapt" to the system. Come to England and catch some of the Olympics. Buy your reasonably priced watch and head home. If you get stopped at customs show them your receipt for your current WG sub and claim that the new watch is the old one. A little bit dodgy but you get a nice watch. Obviously you can't take your current WG sub with you for this

FremStar · 4 June 2012, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jay1988

Sam if you already have one you could sort of "adapt" to the system. Come to England and catch some of the Olympics. Buy your reasonably priced watch and head home. If you get stopped at customs show them your receipt for your current WG sub and claim that the new watch is the old one. A little bit dodgy but you get a nice watch. Obviously you can't take your current WG sub with you for this

Good sir! Though interesting and I am sure some folks have done that before, I personally would not want to risk my reputation getting stopped and held up at customs for a reference I already own... I would not mind visiting to catch the Olympics though!

Chat soon sir!

SRVwannab · 4 June 2012, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Monte Cristo

That's a whopping $10,000 saving !
Although the flip side is, it maybe $27,000 more than you want to spend right now.
I'd rather pay a little bit more at a time that's right for me, rather than the inverse.
Temptation is always there

These are wise words... if I could only do a better job of following them. :)

SUPERDOC · 4 June 2012, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Watch purchases should be fun, not financial worries.

This is the best Advice I've read here...

It's somewhat reassuring to know that I'm not the only one who has at times yawed off that course, and let the dark side of the OCD take over...

I agree wait until the WG sub represents a triumph and not a sacrifice/reminder of the watches you had to give up...

If after getting it you realize that the rest of the Subs are superfluous, then you can get rid of them on your terms...

Joey_V · 4 June 2012, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TempoKing

Do it if no tax by shipping out of state
They are told not to do this..by try...it's your hard earned money (I think)..

Yes, no tax.

Maybe you guys are right, maybe it's best to do it in my own terms.

Runnin' Rebel · 4 June 2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Point me to the gold SubC for lnib $21-22... I'll buy another at that price!

LOL...that's exactly what I was going to post. Show me LNIB WG Sub for that price I'll be on it like white on rice ..

I'll post it anyway

Joey_V · 4 June 2012, 04:08 PM

UPDATE!

So I called the AD today to place the WG Smurf on hold until I have a day off on Tuesday (seeing as today was the last day they could hold the price). I was willing to put $5K down... but no one answered the phone and it kept going to voicemail (which is odd because I always call during business hours and someone always picks up).

I tried 3x. I even called from where I work.

No one answered.

It was not meant to be... moving on.

kilyung · 4 June 2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey_V

UPDATE!

So I called the AD today to place the WG Smurf on hold until I have a day off on Tuesday (seeing as today was the last day they could hold the price). I was willing to put $5K down... but no one answered the phone and it kept going to voicemail (which is odd because I always call during business hours and someone always picks up).

I tried 3x. I even called from where I work.

No one answered.

It was not meant to be... moving on.

Wise move Joey!

Joey_V · 4 June 2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Wise move Joey!

Thanks broman...

Bangel · 4 June 2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey_V

It was not meant to be... moving on.

I like your philosophy.

Easy come, easy go....

gwalker · 4 June 2012, 05:12 PM

I'm saying sell the 3 and get it. I Took what the OP said to mean he really can't afford to buy outright but he is able to get rid of 3 to get the smurf. I don't think it's irresponsible for him to sell the 3.

gregdolley · 25 September 2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jay1988

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This business of excluding VAT is something I've only heard in America. I remember the first time I was shopping in America and I went to the till and my bill went up by about 15%. It's beyond me why you guys do that. Are people supposed to work out percentages as they walk around the store ? In England the price on the tag is what you pay.

It's always been this way. Sales tax is never added to the price tag. I'm not sure why this is. I agree, it's stupid. Some items are not taxed though (like food at the grocery store), so what you see on the tag is exactly how much you pay. It would be more convenient if they added in tax for taxable items. But, in short, yes, we work out tax in our head by doing a rough estimation. Sales tax in CA is 8.75%, so we just add 10% percent to the price and know it won't be above that number.

versatile1 · 25 September 2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey_V

I have a bonus coming up in a month and a half... dang it. If only the price increase could've waited.

Put 30% down and layaway for 3 months.
My AD would jump at that offer

Feras · 25 September 2012, 07:07 PM

If it is your grail then go for it, sell 3 for one.
For me if i had to sell 3 of my watches to get my current grail then i would do it with a smile on my face (after all nothing beats the grail

Cabaiguan · 25 September 2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gregdolley

It's always been this way. Sales tax is never added to the price tag. I'm not sure why this is. I agree, it's stupid. Some items are not taxed though (like food at the grocery store), so what you see on the tag is exactly how much you pay. It would be more convenient if they added in tax for taxable items. But, in short, yes, we work out tax in our head by doing a rough estimation. Sales tax in CA is 8.75%, so we just add 10% percent to the price and know it won't be above that number.

It's not really feasible for us in the States to add the tax to the base price. We have 50 states, each with their own tax rate. Add to that municipal taxes in certain areas and other tax-favored zones and you have many combinations for manufacturers to consider.

floater156 · 26 September 2012, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Watch purchases should be fun, not financial worries.

Hold out like Mike said and once comfortable get one from TRF.

It's a beauty...thought about one before price increase too, but didn't know if I needed three Subs--happy with my others for now.

x2

3 June 2012, 11:38 PM	#33
Christiaan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Christiaan Location: Fort Mill, SC Watch: 67' Breitling Navi Posts: 1,617	Don't do it. Find one per-owned for less... __________________ "Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities" Frank Lloyd Wright. "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been and there you will long to return." DaVinci

4 June 2012, 03:14 AM	#44
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Joey, as the other TRF veterans have stated and as I mentioned to you before do not buy a watch that you cannot readily afford. There is no point in that! Good luck with your move For Jay and Mike! Seeing those 116619 prices I definitely feel like I overpaid for mine! That $20k price is insane! Great value for that reference and if the seller would work out a deal to include VAT and import duties then that would be a major win! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

4 June 2012, 04:08 PM	#51
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	UPDATE! So I called the AD today to place the WG Smurf on hold until I have a day off on Tuesday (seeing as today was the last day they could hold the price). I was willing to put $5K down... but no one answered the phone and it kept going to voicemail (which is odd because I always call during business hours and someone always picks up). I tried 3x. I even called from where I work. No one answered. It was not meant to be... moving on. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

3 June 2012, 11:36 PM	#32
fabini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Fabio Location: miami Posts: 120	is it white-yellow or rose gold?? if it is full rose gold then go for it without a flinch, that's a fantastic price the downside though is that pre-owned will cost you about 25-26k as of now. if it is a white gold I wouldn't pay that much the reason is that on white gold you can find a LNIB for about 21-22k. if it is yellow gold its the same deal as the white gold.

3 June 2012, 11:41 PM	#34
snowbird "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 2,157	As others have said, this is something that's supposed to be fun not a source of financial or emotional stress . . . I would pass.

3 June 2012, 11:55 PM	#36
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	Don't be caught up with the price increase and try to save the world! If you do it and try to sell the very next day you will end up getting your money back.

4 June 2012, 02:06 AM	#37
donas Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Wade Location: TN Watch: 116619 Posts: 2,659	I agree with the people who suggested buying here on TRF.....you can do much better than 27G. I recently bought the same watch from Davidsw and couldn't tell it from a bnib.

4 June 2012, 02:13 AM	#38
c.rod "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,252	i dont think i would buy a white gold one for that price under these circumstances.... personally imho white gold looks to much like stainless to justify the huge price jump... :) just me though..

4 June 2012, 05:12 PM	#55
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	I'm saying sell the 3 and get it. I Took what the OP said to mean he really can't afford to buy outright but he is able to get rid of 3 to get the smurf. I don't think it's irresponsible for him to sell the 3.

25 September 2012, 07:07 PM	#58
Feras Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Feras Location: Bahrain Watch: Rolex,Tag Posts: 1,923	If it is your grail then go for it, sell 3 for one. For me if i had to sell 3 of my watches to get my current grail then i would do it with a smile on my face (after all nothing beats the grail

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