If you could only have one - Which PAM?

[kilyung]

I've gone through many models but I think I've settled on the 233 as I don't feel the urge to get any other... well maybe the 382 if I could find one at retail.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by rulessapt

Yo Mik (mfer), roll out that shot of the 210 with the hands and the ABP.
It cemented my love for Radiomir.

This old thing.... ;-)

[rulessapt]

Originally Posted by mfer

This old thing.... ;-)

I love that combination Mik, the 210 with thae ABP, ahh, my heart melts.

Such a ripper of a shot, pure class and quality.
To think it is just ( ) a 210, with a set of gold hands and a ( outbloodystanding ) strap.

Thanks mfer for sharing the image again.
I'm okay now, I've decided to have only the 141 as my grail PAM, the 210 is on the block. But if I had one of thse straps, it and I could never part.
Maybe I'll just keep the 210 too.

Cheers
Richard

[Gerry62]

excellent choice the PAM 000

autentic and absolutely PAM historic

[jhcam8]

Great advice from all. Nothing beats trying some on, then buying one, then flipping it for another, and another.....

[Travelller]

Originally Posted by mikeyg

... So far, I am really liking the look of the 104 ...
Not sure about the issue of sandwiched or painted? I do like LUME...

Well then, I think it's settled, the 104 it is

A lot of people don't like the 233 (currently my only PAM) because it's too busy it and doesn't have all the numbers and - and ... but I did my homework, looked around and the 233 was it for me, end of discussion. I'm the one that will wear it and enjoy it every time I look down at my wrist

Re. stuffed* vs. Sandwich vs. painted... is not an "issue", but choice of design / style, much like the color of the dial / hands / cyclops / additional complications / etc. Some people insist on a sandwich dial as much as they insist on a Luminor case (crown guard) while others find the traditional (pre-V) stuffed* dials interesting and aim for a logo (000 005 380) - simply because these are the only PAMs in production with such dials. Having said that, your 104 is painted (the numbers and bars are applied to the surface of the dial).

*I call it stuffed, some call it sausage, others unfortunately even call it painted - it's really messed up since OP has never openly discussed it. But whatever you want to call it, I am referring to taking a beveled dial and "filling in the bevels" with lume paint.

My guess is that painted dials are the brightest, but only someone who has all three and has done a comparison can be sure. What I am sure of is that OP's application of Super LumiNova is of the highest quality and comparable to Rolex, Omega and other fine [sports]watch makers. As most of high-end houses use the one and same "Super LumiNova", the effectiveness of the lume really boils down to the amount of layers (think of a car's paint job) and the overall surface-area used. There are a few "military" watches that will outshine even a PAM - but that is their specialty and they are applying many layers to large surface areas.

Here's a Super LumiNova comparison I recently did and my 233 has a sandwich dial, which, in my guesstimation, is the least brightest of all three types. None the less, you can see that OP has done a fine job...

30s exposures @f/8

Please note that all three are visible down to the 30min mark; If you cannot see them, your monitor may need adjustment.

[HDHNTER]

372 for me but given your preference for 44mm & keeping the cost at 6K or less, I would lean towards the 111 or 000.

[Watchonisto]

pam177

[jamespiritu]

a zero or 390

[mikeyg]

Originally Posted by Travelller

Well then, I think it's settled, the 104 it is

A lot of people don't like the 233 (currently my only PAM) because it's too busy it and doesn't have all the numbers and - and ... but I did my homework, looked around and the 233 was it for me, end of discussion. I'm the one that will wear it and enjoy it every time I look down at my wrist

Re. stuffed* vs. Sandwich vs. painted... is not an "issue", but choice of design / style, much like the color of the dial / hands / cyclops / additional complications / etc. Some people insist on a sandwich dial as much as they insist on a Luminor case (crown guard) while others find the traditional (pre-V) stuffed* dials interesting and aim for a logo (000 005 380) - simply because these are the only PAMs in production with such dials. Having said that, your 104 is painted (the numbers and bars are applied to the surface of the dial).

*I call it stuffed, some call it sausage, others unfortunately even call it painted - it's really messed up since OP has never openly discussed it. But whatever you want to call it, I am referring to taking a beveled dial and "filling in the bevels" with lume paint.

My guess is that painted dials are the brightest, but only someone who has all three and has done a comparison can be sure. What I am sure of is that OP's application of Super LumiNova is of the highest quality and comparable to Rolex, Omega and other fine [sports]watch makers. As most of high-end houses use the one and same "Super LumiNova", the effectiveness of the lume really boils down to the amount of layers (think of a car's paint job) and the overall surface-area used. There are a few "military" watches that will outshine even a PAM - but that is their specialty and they are applying many layers to large surface areas.

Here's a Super LumiNova comparison I recently did and my 233 has a sandwich dial, which, in my guesstimation, is the least brightest of all three types. None the less, you can see that OP has done a fine job...

30s exposures @f/8

Please note that all three are visible down to the 30min mark; If you cannot see them, your monitor may need adjustment.

Excellent! Thanks so much for your input and the time taken on the LUME.

[WatchTimes]

That is easy for me...
It would be my 243.... Just LOVE the divers.
IF I had a 233 again it would be a tough choice between those two.