"Leaked" Video from RIM

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by CashGap

The physical keyboard "need" is the last one....

If RIM's virtual keyboard is nearly as good as Android's, and it promises to be better, the physical keyboard may be dead.

When I got my BB, my thumbs were sore during the several days that I got my bearings on the thing and got a few callouses from the keys and the track-pad.

On the Android, the first few days on the virtual keyboard were no less frustrating than on the BB, but my thumbs weren't sore.

Now it seems that the thing knows what I intend to type before I type it, except for an occasional blip when I type something new.

It's pretty amazing that it can extrapolate from the right keys I hit and cover for the wrong keys I hit based on my established patterns.

Integrating email is quite another problem on Android and it takes me three apps to do with one email account, what BB used to do with one app and two email accounts.

As I said earlier, that's not critical at my stage of the game, but it could be better and yes, I have been to the Verizon store to find a better way, but if it's out there, they don't know it.

It's easy to be a doomsayer and build an argument on the known facts or the history of other failed companies.

Whether or not RIM succeeds or fails will be based on the things we don't know and what is not evident at this time.

If RIM introduces a phone that can keep personal phone needs separate from business needs, as they've said that they will do, that alone will be enough to catch the attention of very many.

The iOS and Android operating systems have enough advantage to make a lot of people leave BB in the dust, myself being one.

If I'm not alone in my nostalgia for BB, though, the BB10 could be enough to change a lot of minds very quickly.

I'm sure hoping so.

I don't think very many people were expecting Apple to build a phone that would change mobile computing so dramatically.

There's still room for more surprises and Apple seems to be running out of surprises.

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by MoBe

You have to wonder if many people will wait for the BB 10 or will most just move on to an iPhone or Android phone and decide to forget about Blackberry.

This 8yr Crackberry addict was not willing to wait any longer... he's gone Android.

Originally Posted by CashGap

The physical keyboard "need" is the last one of those four that is still true.

I used to think that I "needed" the keyboard. I had been saying that since Microsoft dumped the HPC platform to focus on the Pocket PC. It's why I went Blackberry to begin with. It took me about 1/2 day with my new Android phone, haptic feedback and a 3rd party keyboard and learning spell checker (SwiftKey) to get over that.

Originally Posted by MP5

I'd rather know I have little security than think I have some security.

In other words, "ignorance is bliss".

[gettocard]

Originally Posted by Tri-Tip

I'll put a different spin on this...

I want a device for business that is a Phone and can seamlessly synchronize with my E-Mail, Calendar, and Address Book. I don't need apps, I don't need movies, I don't need games, I need something with a physical keyboard that I can type on and that is stable and reliable. I need a BLACKBERRY because I don't see iphones or Android devices doing those 4 things as well as the Blackberry does.

Absolutely. After one full year with Android and 9 months on Iphone 4s I came to the point that the only stuff I really need is email,quick text messaging and the occasional pic. And yes I do miss keyboard over these battery sucking touchscreen thingies..

[77T]

Lots of good points about the user interface and how apps may or may not mean much to the BB faithful.

Some things that will mean a rosy RIM future, or a death-knell.
- Large Enterprises govern the business sales segment and if they like it, there will be good sales there.
- BYOD versatility will blunt Enterprise sales since businesses can let the employee foot the device bill.
- Apps matter whether you know it or not. Devices will carry custom Enterprise Apps to be front-ends for secure access to legacy DB or ERP corporate data.
- RIM has not dented cloud-based services market for corporate mail, calendaring and scheduling.

These will make a big difference in device sales. I don't think the consumer market is ready to return to BB - and the only way to build big sales there is to take share from iOS and Android marketshare. IMHO, that's not likely...

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by 77T

Lots of good points about the user interface and how apps may or may not mean much to the BB faithful.

Some things that will mean a rosy RIM future, or a death-knell.
- Large Enterprises govern the business sales segment and if they like it, there will be good sales there.
- BYOD versatility will blunt Enterprise sales since businesses can let the employee foot the device bill.
- Apps matter whether you know it or not. Devices will carry custom Enterprise Apps to be front-ends for secure access to legacy DB or ERP corporate data.
- RIM has not dented cloud-based services market for corporate mail, calendaring and scheduling.

These will make a big difference in device sales. I don't think the consumer market is ready to return to BB - and the only way to build big sales there is to take share from iOS and Android marketshare. IMHO, that's not likely...

"the train has left the station" not just for the consumer, but most corporate users as well. Soon the stragglers will follow JMHO

[77T]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

"the train has left the station" not just for the consumer, but most corporate users as well. Soon the stragglers will follow JMHO

I think BYOD and Cloud will tip the scales. Because the BB is married to the BB Enterprises Server - few will want to keep that platform running if Cisco, et al, provide a secure BYOD offering.

[GradyPhilpott]

I don't think that the BYOD experiment has been as rosy as some presume.

https://www.google.com/search?q=byod...w=1120&bih=637