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East Bay Rider · 13 November 2007, 09:13 AM

I like Escalades. I think it's a upscale truck capable of pulling a camper or running to the home store or nursery. Funny that the name "Escalade" conjurs up stereotypical images.
Kind of like "Prius" makes me think of self rightous baby boomer, eco-hippies.

Superlative · 13 November 2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thurnau

Some animal rights activists would boycott goods from a country that abuses animals. Japanese fisherman are slaughtering dolphin. Unless Japan makes a law to publicly not support it, abusing dolphins might actually sway me not to buy Japanese vehicles. Similar to boycotting USA made products if you didn't support our war.

So I guess you're not buying anything that's "mADE in Japan" right? Cause its not just the car they make that are reliable but 80% of the top electronic TV, DVD ETc. out their are made by them!
I quess that RCA will just have to do for now!

Superlative · 13 November 2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Thurnau

Some animal rights activists would boycott goods from a country that abuses animals. Japanese fisherman are slaughtering dolphin. Unless Japan makes a law to publicly not support it, abusing dolphins might actually sway me not to buy Japanese vehicles. Similar to boycotting USA made products if you didn't support our war.

I never plan on going offroad, however I do live in southern Louisiana. I do know what it is like to evacuate for a hurricane and carry my wife, dogs, and belongings and not be sure whether or not I still have a home. It sucks when it rains to hard and streets flood temporarily on a hard rainstorm. This SUV will not commute but 4 miles per day so I do not think that it will consume as badly as a guy driving 30 miles per day in a hybrid. This vehicle is not going to be a workhorse, but it will take some materials, and equipment around on occasions. My 4 runner did the same but the cargo was a little more limited, and I am a little to big for the driver seat. Had I not owned a business that required picking things up on occasion I may be asking for the best mid size car.

So you are worry about the japanese killing your little dolphin but you want to buy a big "azzcalade" so you could look Bling! To drive 4 miles a day to work to polluted the environment??

AZDAYTONA · 13 November 2007, 11:18 AM

actually the new v8 technology allows awesome gas mileage on the hwy! Take my Z06 corvette from phoenix to san diego 28mpg! Not bhad for 500 hp car

SSD · 13 November 2007, 11:47 AM

The 'sclade is a very nice vehicle, but I'm not into the bling factor, so I went with the Tahoe. The only thing I wish I could have gotten was the 6.0 liter engine. Almost the same mileage with more power. Love the room for moving kids and adults, too!

Thurnau · 13 November 2007, 11:52 AM

Actually the Escalade gets better gas mileage than the comparable lexus and mercedes. I drove a Lexus GX470 today just in case and I was not impressed, the GL450 mercedes didn't impress me either.

Whether or not I want to drive a Japanese because of dolphin slaying, it is my prerogative. How about Canadian seal clubbing? Chinese skinning live dogs and passing it off as real fox fur, Perhaps blood diamonds, or maybe gold mined in slave trade for the Rolex market?

Superlative everyone one here wants to feel like they have some bling, or they wouldn't be into Rolex. I want a rolex to feel like I have a little bit of class, same with an Escalade. I too fit in the business owner/ceo club. Some people put bling on their Cadillac, some people put aftermarket diamonds on their Rolex. Does a pimp watch directly make you feel that the Rolex brand is a drug dealer watch?

Lisa · 13 November 2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Thurnau

Actually the Escalade gets better gas mileage than the comparable lexus and mercedes. I drove a Lexus GX470 today just in case and I was not impressed, the GL450 mercedes didn't impress me either.

Whether or not I want to drive a Japanese because of dolphin slaying, it is my prerogative. How about Canadian seal clubbing? Chinese skinning live dogs and passing it off as real fox fur, Perhaps blood diamonds, or maybe gold mined in slave trade for the Rolex market?

Superlative everyone one here wants to feel like they have some bling, or they wouldn't be into Rolex. I want a rolex to feel like I have a little bit of class, same with an Escalade. I too fit in the business owner/ceo club. Some people put bling on their Cadillac, some people put aftermarket diamonds on their Rolex. Does a pimp watch directly make you feel that the Rolex brand is a drug dealer watch?

Sigh... I wasn't going to post on this thread anymore, but felt compelled to point out that "class" and "bling" aren't the same thing. Quite opposites, IMO. To me, class is quiet and understated. I have no desire for bling. My Rolex is understated. So is my car. I don't need to say, "Look At Me." Except on this forum, where I seem to have a desperate need for attention.

To each his own. Taste is subjective. I'm going away now.

daunwaun · 13 November 2007, 12:51 PM

get a hummer

DS/B MINI S · 13 November 2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Thurnau

Superlative everyone one here wants to feel like they have some bling, or they wouldn't be into Rolex. I want a rolex to feel like I have a little bit of class, same with an Escalade. I too fit in the business owner/ceo club. Some people put bling on their Cadillac, some people put aftermarket diamonds on their Rolex. Does a pimp watch directly make you feel that the Rolex brand is a drug dealer watch?

I wasn't gonna post to this thread, but...

When I see somebody driving an Escalade, the first thought that crosses my mind is "What a Waste." If I'm gonna drop 50-70k on a vehicle, it's gonna be made in Germany.

If you are into Rolex watches for the bling factor...you won't be here long. Something else will have a little more bling and off you go. I hope you enjoy Rolex watches for their mechanical excellence. If so, you might want to take a look at the BMW 5 series or MB E or S class autos.

Oh yeah, get a Dodge Ram 1500 to haul around your stuff. Cheap and Plentiful on the used market.

Since you can write both vehicles off to your business, you might want to check out the M or AMG offerings

That is what I call BLING

CoopJr · 13 November 2007, 12:55 PM

'Sclade in da hood! Maybe you can give it to yourself as "Berfday" present!

CoopJr · 13 November 2007, 01:09 PM

For the needs you have, I would find a clean used, Ford Excursion with the Power Stroke diesel. Mine got 20 MPG and had 200K on it when I sold it. Huge cargo space and will tow anything you have.

ezmoney46 · 13 November 2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonbellevue

Nothing wrong with an Escalade, just too rich for me. I drive a 2008 Chevy Tahoe, and from the heated leather seats, to the sunroof, and the spacious interior, I love it.

The only thing that I need to figure out is how to turn off the automatic reverse-tilt side mirrors, it drives me nuts every time I back up the vehicle.

If you select the mid position on your mirrors this will keep them stationary when backing. It's when you either select right or left when they move. Hope this helps.

Mrdi · 13 November 2007, 01:59 PM

Seems there are many ways to say:
I got me a Chevy truck.

Paulie · 13 November 2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AZDAYTONA

actually the new v8 technology allows awesome gas mileage on the hwy! Take my Z06 corvette from phoenix to san diego 28mpg! Not bhad for 500 hp car

Try it in 5th gear, instead of that 0.5 overdrive 6th.

Anything that big, really should be a diesel. Or filling it will be a part time job (even with a 30+ gallon tank).

jasonbellevue · 13 November 2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ezmoney46

If you select the mid position on your mirrors this will keep them stationary when backing. It's when you either select right or left when they move. Hope this helps.

Thanks Steve!

chevycorvette · 13 November 2007, 05:14 PM

chevy has a very good gas mileage on the freeway.

greenfan · 14 November 2007, 12:09 AM

Since I live in Europe I prefer European cars.
I suggest a BMW X5 or even the new X6, the Mercedes ML line, Land Rover or VW Touareg, which is exceptional....

greenfan · 14 November 2007, 12:16 AM

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Ed Rooney · 14 November 2007, 01:16 AM

These days is there a huge difference between a "Luxury" vehicle and a regular one? Go back to the 70's and 80's and think of the most luxurious, yet still attainable vehicle. They had leather, power windows and AM/FM/Cassette. A $27K Toyota Camry has just about every feature ever associated with a luxury vehicle.

Then there is resale. I just did a quick check on KBB:

1998 Cadillac Catera - $3000
1998 Cadillac DeVille - $4600
1998 Honda Accord EX - $5500

2003 Cadillac Escalade - $17,000
2003 Lexus LX470 - $27,000
2003 Toyota Sequoia Ltd. - $18,000

It's not even fair, is it? I used to own a 1998 Accord. Last night on the way home I was stuck behind a late 90's Caddie Deville. This thing was in OK shape, but I thought, "wow, my old Accord is probably worth more than that thing". But the guy was still stuck with it because he was probably so upside down in value he HAD to keep driving it.

Thurnau · 14 November 2007, 12:57 PM

I made the mistake of driving a Porsche Cayenne lol. I went to test some land rovers and the lot was closed, and porsche was open. I think I might have to start a new thread lol.
The driver seat was surprisingly roomy, and my head didn't scrape the roof. There isn't much cargo space, but just enough with the rear seats down. Acceleration on the base is ok, but the turning and braking is excellent.

diamonddatejust · 23 November 2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Thurnau

I was Japanese biased too, my last 3 cars where two toyotas and a honda. Until the Dolphin abuse thing got onto CNN every day, I was interested in the GX470, or the too pricey LX470, and the Toyota Landcruiser. I happen to love Dolphins, I had the privalage to jet ski in the gulf coast close to a couple of curious dolphins.

Lately though I have gone into a support American made products mode. I try to by American made stuff within reason, unless an Item is not American made at all.

Could ypu please tell me what happened? When I would ski in Florida the dolphins would always follow...awesome scene.

Ed Rooney · 23 November 2007, 02:10 AM

I was into Fords until the "owner abuse" thing hit the news. Apparently Ford, as well as the other "traditionally domestic" auto makers have a history of abusing the people who buy their cars. Shocking!

Now I put my energy into avoiding Chinese products, where the REAL human rights problems occur.

S2000 Driver · 23 November 2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

I wasn't going to post on this thread anymore, but felt compelled to point out that "class" and "bling" aren't the same thing. Quite opposites, IMO. To me, class is quiet and understated...

mailman · 23 November 2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Sigh... "class" and "bling" aren't the same thing. Quite opposites, IMO. To me, class is quiet and understated. I have no desire for bling. My Rolex is understated. So is my car. I don't need to say, "Look At Me."

To each his own.

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Originally Posted by S2000 Driver

X2

Prince · 23 November 2007, 03:41 AM

No Escalade for me, but my next car WILL be a CTS!

astcell · 23 November 2007, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Thurnau

I made the mistake of driving a Porsche Cayenne lol. I went to test some land rovers and the lot was closed, and porsche was open. I think I might have to start a new thread lol.
The driver seat was surprisingly roomy, and my head didn't scrape the roof. There isn't much cargo space, but just enough with the rear seats down. Acceleration on the base is ok, but the turning and braking is excellent.

Which model do you recommend?

mailman · 23 November 2007, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

No Escalade for me, but my next car WILL be a CTS!

Buy the CTS-V tosser

Thurnau · 23 November 2007, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by astcell

Which model do you recommend?

Out of All porsche's? Or Cayennes? Or Cadillacs?

astcell · 23 November 2007, 04:27 AM

Well, out of the Cayennes. I need 4WD for the snow. Unless there is another car you recommend.

Thurnau · 23 November 2007, 04:32 AM

For the Cayenne I did not drive the Turbo. Both the base and the S models both drove like a normal car until you drive in the sports mode. The S feels a little more punchier.
I bought the base model. It will save you about 10 grand. I had the option to buy a nicely loaded base, or a stripped down S for a similar cost. I went with the loaded base.

In sports mode the car gears down a little. It is more responsive to gas, and when you let off the gas it feels like you are pressing the break just slightly, similar to gearing down in a standard. In regular drive you start out in gear 2, while in sports mode you start driving in first gear. It is a 6 speed automatic, with tiptronic gear selector to make you feel like you are driving a standard if you choose to turn it on. I do recommend looking a Porsche entry and drive. You never have to take your keys out of your pocket to open or start your vehicle.

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CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	Now in all seriousness... For the needs you have, I would find a clean used, Ford Excursion with the Power Stroke diesel. Mine got 20 MPG and had 200K on it when I sold it. Huge cargo space and will tow anything you have.

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Thurnau "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Watch: DateJust Posts: 738	Actually the Escalade gets better gas mileage than the comparable lexus and mercedes. I drove a Lexus GX470 today just in case and I was not impressed, the GL450 mercedes didn't impress me either. Whether or not I want to drive a Japanese because of dolphin slaying, it is my prerogative. How about Canadian seal clubbing? Chinese skinning live dogs and passing it off as real fox fur, Perhaps blood diamonds, or maybe gold mined in slave trade for the Rolex market? Superlative everyone one here wants to feel like they have some bling, or they wouldn't be into Rolex. I want a rolex to feel like I have a little bit of class, same with an Escalade. I too fit in the business owner/ceo club. Some people put bling on their Cadillac, some people put aftermarket diamonds on their Rolex. Does a pimp watch directly make you feel that the Rolex brand is a drug dealer watch?

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Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	These days is there a huge difference between a "Luxury" vehicle and a regular one? Go back to the 70's and 80's and think of the most luxurious, yet still attainable vehicle. They had leather, power windows and AM/FM/Cassette. A $27K Toyota Camry has just about every feature ever associated with a luxury vehicle. Then there is resale. I just did a quick check on KBB: 1998 Cadillac Catera - $3000 1998 Cadillac DeVille - $4600 1998 Honda Accord EX - $5500 2003 Cadillac Escalade - $17,000 2003 Lexus LX470 - $27,000 2003 Toyota Sequoia Ltd. - $18,000 It's not even fair, is it? I used to own a 1998 Accord. Last night on the way home I was stuck behind a late 90's Caddie Deville. This thing was in OK shape, but I thought, "wow, my old Accord is probably worth more than that thing". But the guy was still stuck with it because he was probably so upside down in value he HAD to keep driving it.

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Thurnau "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Watch: DateJust Posts: 738	I made the mistake of driving a Porsche Cayenne lol. I went to test some land rovers and the lot was closed, and porsche was open. I think I might have to start a new thread lol. The driver seat was surprisingly roomy, and my head didn't scrape the roof. There isn't much cargo space, but just enough with the rear seats down. Acceleration on the base is ok, but the turning and braking is excellent.

23 November 2007, 02:10 AM	#52
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I was into Fords until the "owner abuse" thing hit the news. Apparently Ford, as well as the other "traditionally domestic" auto makers have a history of abusing the people who buy their cars. Shocking! Now I put my energy into avoiding Chinese products, where the REAL human rights problems occur.

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astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	Well, out of the Cayennes. I need 4WD for the snow. Unless there is another car you recommend.

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Thurnau "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Watch: DateJust Posts: 738	For the Cayenne I did not drive the Turbo. Both the base and the S models both drove like a normal car until you drive in the sports mode. The S feels a little more punchier. I bought the base model. It will save you about 10 grand. I had the option to buy a nicely loaded base, or a stripped down S for a similar cost. I went with the loaded base. In sports mode the car gears down a little. It is more responsive to gas, and when you let off the gas it feels like you are pressing the break just slightly, similar to gearing down in a standard. In regular drive you start out in gear 2, while in sports mode you start driving in first gear. It is a 6 speed automatic, with tiptronic gear selector to make you feel like you are driving a standard if you choose to turn it on. I do recommend looking a Porsche entry and drive. You never have to take your keys out of your pocket to open or start your vehicle.

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