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[Grissom]

Originally Posted by RolexDivers

It is not ilegal to attach yourself to someone else's network, like the situation I put myself in. It is considered unethical by some to do so but not illegal to the best of my knowledge.

BUT to be on the safe side, the good news is I do have internet connection now in my cabin.

As Bruno said......you would/are/have been stealing......

So I say, again, tread lightly.............

You are in California where we are at the forefront of enacting laws prohibiting and criminalizing computer and Internet tampering and in using existing laws of trespass to apply to cyberspace. While the criminal law is fairly straightforward, there have been some important cases in civil court, where companies or individuals have been successfully sued for using online information for unauthorized purposes. This area of law is based on case law, not the penal code, and is still evolving.

Criminal acts of computer or network trespass and tampering are dealt with in the California penal code. Under California penal code section 502, the following actions are crimes: damaging, destroying or changing data to defraud or deceive people; taking or copying data from a computer or computer network; using computer services without permission; changing, deleting or destroying data on a computer or network; accessing or helping to access a computer or network without permission; introducing viruses into a computer or network; and using the Internet domain name of someone else to send viruses that cause damage to a computer or network.

The maximum penalty, if found guilty for criminal computer trespass, is a fine of $10,000 and a prison sentence of three years. The owner of the computer or network that has been damaged or suffered loss can also sue in civil court for compensation. Compensation can include any money spent to repair, replace or verify the condition of the computer or network, or to verify what data was stolen, deleted or tampered with, and attorney's fees. If the damage was caused by a minor, the parents may be sued and will be responsible for paying any damages.

California Penal Code Section 502:

http://www.calpers.ca.gov/eip-docs/u...penal-code.pdf

[RolexDivers]

Thank you for the link and showing me that the laws are on the book. Laws being on the books and laws being enforced are two separate issues. Not only separate issues, they represent extreme opposite views of reality. Just like your driving book from the dept of motor vehicles verseus the reality of driving on the road. Those are some serious laws but hardly applicable to one neighbor logging on to another neighbor's open wifi network BUT minding his own business and not doing anything frauduellnt or malicious.

To bring a case against someone, you have to prove damages you suffered in court. In my case, all I did was log on, check my email, came here to TRF and realized from responses that what I was doing was not correct and I logged off. I had no malicious intent, and I did not snoop around or cared to or knew how to.

I am not trying to argue with you or justify my actions but it would be easier for the person whose network I attached to, to get a 90% discount on a DEEPSEA from an AD than for him to bring any charges against me or for those to charges to stand up in court. Even if I repeatedly do so, and do not cause harm and just visit cnn.com to read the news, the way our system works, the person will be laughed at mostly and put at the end of the line --- compared to the types of crimes that are taking place. I doubt any lawyer would even waste their free consultation time on a case like this.

THe unprotected network guy needs to set a password so that people getting his signal can not log onto his machine. Otherwise, he has no recourse and especially without any damage to be proven, he is like a little kid crying for his mommy....

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by RolexDivers

Hello folks,

We have purchased a vacation cabin that is about 100 miles from our main residence.

My goal is to remotely view the insides of the cabin from our primary residence. I'll need to cameras, one in the living room and one in the kitchen.

So what I am envisioning is that from home or from work, on my laptop, I goto my cabin's website and then view what is happening in the cabin. THe cabin is vacant.

I am looking for a very simple setup--So what is the minimal setup I need to remotely view the insides of my cabin from a 100miles away, in Real-Time? In other words, looking for a home monitoring system, but at the most minimal level.

Thank you

Are you going to rent it out??? Sounds kinky....

[RolexDivers]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Are you going to rent it out??? Sounds kinky....

Oh no ... I will be placing the camera on the kitchen countertop in full view and another one on a coffeetable in the living room. I just would like to see the sunrise from the cabin if i can or how the inside lighting changes through out the day and just be able to see it live, in Real-time .... all I will be seeing will be empty rooms but it would be live! Just trying to keep any eye on my cabin .....

Maybe later as I get more expertise, this simple setup can evolve into a serious security monitoring system .... but I got to take those baby steps first.

P.S my ccabin is not for rental --- money ain't worth dealing with the mess that people leave behind .... and no amounts of money is worth the image of strangers sitting on my toilet and doing their thing ...

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by RolexDivers

Thank you for the link and showing me that the laws are on the book. Laws being on the books and laws being enforced are two separate issues. Not only separate issues, they represent extreme opposite views of reality. Just like your driving book from the dept of motor vehicles verseus the reality of driving on the road. Those are some serious laws but hardly applicable to one neighbor logging on to another neighbor's open wifi network BUT minding his own business and not doing anything frauduellnt or malicious.

To bring a case against someone, you have to prove damages you suffered in court. In my case, all I did was log on, check my email, came here to TRF and realized from responses that what I was doing was not correct and I logged off. I had no malicious intent, and I did not snoop around or cared to or knew how to.

I am not trying to argue with you or justify my actions but it would be easier for the person whose network I attached to, to get a 90% discount on a DEEPSEA from an AD than for him to bring any charges against me or for those to charges to stand up in court. Even if I repeatedly do so, and do not cause harm and just visit cnn.com to read the news, the way our system works, the person will be laughed at mostly and put at the end of the line --- compared to the types of crimes that are taking place. I doubt any lawyer would even waste their free consultation time on a case like this.

THe unprotected network guy needs to set a password so that people getting his signal can not log onto his machine. Otherwise, he has no recourse and especially without any damage to be proven, he is like a little kid crying for his mommy....

Reputation is important. That is all.

[RolexDivers]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

Reputation is important. That is all.

I agree with you. That's why when you and other pointed out that it is stealing, I immediately stopped. I am a family person, have kids and a home and a nice job and don't wanna get into trouble. When so many people are hinting that what I was doing was wrong, I got their message and will not repeat it again.

Plus what I do, my kids are watching and soaking it all in so my actions were not good for their learning.

Now I have my own connection and all seems good and there is nothing for me to worry about.

Thank you for checking me on it ...