I just bought me this beauty!

[Acro-Pilot]

Congrats Tony! ...always fun to add one to the family.

[DrLindaPhD]

I have been down this road where I pulled the trigger before getting all the information. Once the watch arrived, I was depressed and returned it and got my money back. Then, I became more cautious and did my research before I purchased. I really don't think you will be happy once you get it knowing all of this but if you are, that's ok. You will have to disclose all of this if you sell it. I like everything to be as authentic as possible. But, that's just me.

No one wants to burst your bubble. We all want to help you get the most for your money. It's not a bad price, but for a few hundred dollars more you can get a much better 5513 from someone connected to TRF.

I hope he offers a money back guarantee in case you change your mind once you get it.

[tudorluv]

lovely piece! wear it in good health!

[Brenngun]

Originally Posted by simplerolex

You're right kooltzar, I bought this and I was aware of the dial and hands replacement (that is not the right one) and case polishing; but not for the rest (like no twinlock crown and shaving on the crown which Lawrence noticed)
What made me buy it was the unusual patina on the dial and of course the low price (I joined the bid during the last 4 minutes so I did not have much chance to analyzed it prior to purchase)

But if the correct dial is Feet first (I will look for the right dial and twinlock and check if there is a good investment to increase its value)


Any idea about a price range of the correct dial?
Any idea about If can put back the twinlock and prices?

Thanks again

Tony

First congrats on the new add. But now I'm confused. You bought it knowing about the dial, hands and very over polished issues because you loved the dial patina. Now you're thinking about value if you find a correct dial, twinlock etc. What happened to liking it for the dial patina? You got spring bar ends sticking out enough to hang coats on. This issue alone would keep you from recouping the expense you will incur trying to get it as close to correct as possible. It didn't seem to be the reason you bought it in the first place so why is it a thought now??

[simplerolex]

Originally Posted by Brenngun

First congrats on the new add. But now I'm confused. You bought it knowing about the dial, hands and very over polished issues because you loved the dial patina. Now you're thinking about value if you find a correct dial, twinlock etc. What happened to liking it for the dial patina? You got spring bar ends sticking out enough to hang coats on. This issue alone would keep you from recouping the expense you will incur trying to get it as close to correct as possible. It didn't seem to be the reason you bought it in the first place so why is it a thought now??

Here is my explanation ...

I am assessing now two options:

Option A (end up with two watches):

1- I am thinking of buying another matching 5513 (and put the dial with nice Patina)

2- Investing in the right dial/hands and twinlock crown in order to add more value to this one (it will be just OK expect the polishing which I cannot do anything and it is not visible to the bare eye)

Option B

Return the watch to seller


PS - regarding the spring bar sticking out, I just put a new spring bar and the watch look just fine

[simplerolex]

Here is couple of pics for lugholes after springbar replacement ...

[Brenngun]

Originally Posted by simplerolex

Here is my explanation ...

I am assessing now two options:

Option A (end up with two watches):

1- I am thinking of buying another matching 5513 (and put the dial with nice Patina)

2- Investing in the right dial/hands and twinlock crown in order to add more value to this one (it will be just OK expect the polishing which I cannot do anything and it is not visible to the bare eye)

Option B

Return the watch to seller


PS - regarding the spring bar sticking out, I just put a new spring bar and the watch look just fine

Tony, OK for discussion purposes. JMHO.

Option A: Lots of added expense for a "keeper" if you like it as is. Why worry about it's value? Just wear and enjoy. Combining parts from 2 watches not likely to increase it's value that much. If you sell it you would be expected to disclose it's history.

Have you had the movement checked? Were the spring bars Rolex parts? Are the ones you've put in Rolex or at least correctly sized? Concern would be their security if not right.

Option B: Up to you. List what you know. Dial, hands & crown not original (crown less of a concern. Changed during regular service anyway). Movement originality and condition? Spring bars? What else??

If your all good with this then discussion over, enjoy the watch. If not then return it. I would not spend any more money trying to improve its potential value. Good Luck with whatever you decide.

[Jason71]

Originally Posted by Brenngun

Tony, OK for discussion purposes. JMHO.

Option A: Lots of added expense for a "keeper" if you like it as is. Why worry about it's value? Just wear and enjoy. Combining parts from 2 watches not likely to increase it's value that much. If you sell it you would be expected to disclose it's history.

Have you had the movement checked? Were the spring bars Rolex parts? Are the ones you've put in Rolex or at least correctly sized? Concern would be their security if not right.

Option B: Up to you. List what you know. Dial, hands & crown not original (crown less of a concern. Changed during regular service anyway). Movement originality and condition? Spring bars? What else??

If your all good with this then discussion over, enjoy the watch. If not then return it. I would not spend any more money trying to improve its potential value. Good Luck with whatever you decide.

This is good advice. I would take it to heart

[VinSub1680]

Originally Posted by Brenngun

Tony, OK for discussion purposes. JMHO.

Option A: Lots of added expense for a "keeper" if you like it as is. Why worry about it's value? Just wear and enjoy. Combining parts from 2 watches not likely to increase it's value that much. If you sell it you would be expected to disclose it's history.

Have you had the movement checked? Were the spring bars Rolex parts? Are the ones you've put in Rolex or at least correctly sized? Concern would be their security if not right.

Option B: Up to you. List what you know. Dial, hands & crown not original (crown less of a concern. Changed during regular service anyway). Movement originality and condition? Spring bars? What else??

If your all good with this then discussion over, enjoy the watch. If not then return it. I would not spend any more money trying to improve its potential value. Good Luck with whatever you decide.

well said Rick

[lsettle]

+1 Rick

[simplerolex]

Originally Posted by Brenngun

Tony, OK for discussion purposes. JMHO.

Option A: Lots of added expense for a "keeper" if you like it as is. Why worry about it's value? Just wear and enjoy. Combining parts from 2 watches not likely to increase it's value that much. If you sell it you would be expected to disclose it's history.

Have you had the movement checked? Were the spring bars Rolex parts? Are the ones you've put in Rolex or at least correctly sized? Concern would be their security if not right.

Option B: Up to you. List what you know. Dial, hands & crown not original (crown less of a concern. Changed during regular service anyway). Movement originality and condition? Spring bars? What else??

If your all good with this then discussion over, enjoy the watch. If not then return it. I would not spend any more money trying to improve its potential value. Good Luck with whatever you decide.

Rick, thanks for your valuable advice I really appreciate it, I am going to keep it as is, no further parts, no second watch (I should not overcook this watch!)

I had the watch movement checked today with my local watchmaker and the 1520 caliber is in very good condition and all parts are genuine Rolex parts (of course dial, hands and crown are not original to the watch)

I still have one regarding the strange color patina (since the patina was the main factor for me buying this watch) I took couple of close up picture to the dial and I would like you to assess if you suspect any paint touch ups to the markers and hands to make it look like nice patina (If there is paint I am sure going to return if not I will keep it).

Thanks again for your help!

Tony

[Brenngun]

Tony, the markers don't look like a paint job but they have experienced some kind of disturbance. Not very even or smooth surfaces. The lume in the hands looks a little odd. I can't put my finger on a reason why. They may be fine. Just can't tell. It's time for you to make a decision. Return and keep looking or stop the madness annd be happy.

[simplerolex]

Originally Posted by Brenngun

Tony, the markers don't look like a paint job but they have experienced some kind of disturbance. Not very even or smooth surfaces. The lume in the hands looks a little odd. I can't put my finger on a reason why. They may be fine. Just can't tell. It's time for you to make a decision. Return and keep looking or stop the madness annd be happy.

Thanks again Rick! The watch and patina looks really nice (in person/with bare eye) I already got a lot of compliments on it. I am going to keep it and enjoying it as is (as daily wearer)

[lsettle]

A shot with the watch on you would be nice!

[simplerolex]

Originally Posted by lsettle

A shot with the watch on you would be nice!

Here you go Lawrence ... (Thanks for all your help and valuable feedback!)

[Glenn-BE]

Nice 5513! I like the strong patina.

Perfect combo with that nato strap! Where have you bought that leather nato strap? ;-)

Best! Glenn

[FremStar]

This was an interesting read!

[Tudor66]

Nice watch, it reminds me of my old Tudor 1966 year model#7928..., except your watch is a more valuable Rolex....

You made a great purchase Tony...., enjoy the patina....!!!!

[Puffy]

If you like it that's all that matters!

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

[simplerolex]

Originally Posted by Tudor66

Nice watch, it reminds me of my old Tudor 1966 year model#7928..., except your watch is a more valuable Rolex....

You made a great purchase Tony...., enjoy the patina....!!!!

Thanks Alan, your Tudor is stunning too!

[magnetized]

its all about preference,if your happy with it were all happy

[soundserious]

If you want to sell the dial and hands I'm a buyer, nice!

[Bk100]

Dial looks like it was baked in an oven to achieve the patina .....
Not natural patina in my opinion...



Bk

[The_Walrus]

Originally Posted by simplerolex

Thanks again Rick! The watch and patina looks really nice (in person/with bare eye) I already got a lot of compliments on it. I am going to keep it and enjoying it as is (as daily wearer)

Don't change a thing Tony, keep it as it is.
Wear and enjoy and as you evolve (like all of us do), you should be able to get your money back and invest in a true 5513 with period correct everything and UNPOLISHED case. Just my 2c.

[Robbyvm]

This is what happens if you enter an ebzy auction 4 minutes before ending...
Impulsive decision based on patina & price

Enjoy it as a beater !

[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by simplerolex

I bought this and I was aware of the dial and hands replacement (that is not the right one) and case polishing; but not for the rest.
What made me buy it was the unusual patina on the dial and of course the low price (I joined the bid during the last 4 minutes so I did not have much chance to analyzed it prior to purchase)

I think you were rather hasty, to be honest, and should have done at least a bit of research first. Seems odd to buy it because of the patina, and then ask about costs of a correct dial... and several other parts. The bezel pearl is the least of your worries, IMHO. The 'good price' reflects what was offered.

I think you should just enjoy it for what it is, and for what attracted you to it initially, rather than now trying to make it period-correct. And use it as a valuable (expensive?) lesson.

[bridgs]

Originally Posted by Vincent65

I think you were rather hasty, to be honest, and should have done at least a bit of research first. Seems odd to buy it because of the patina, and then ask about costs of a correct dial... and several other parts. The bezel pearl is the least of your worries, IMHO. The 'good price' reflects what was offered.

I think you should just enjoy it for what it is, and for what attracted you to it initially, rather than now trying to make it period-correct. And use it as a valuable (expensive?) lesson.

After reading all of the posts on this matter, this statement seems like a reasonable dissection of the situation with some sound advice to go along as well.

[ExplorerChris]

Beautiful watch with great patina on the dial. Enjoy

[springer]

Originally Posted by Bk100

Dial looks like it was baked in an oven to achieve the patina .....
Not natural patina in my opinion...



Bk

It might be baked but exhibits attributes of water damage. Below is another brown dial which suffered from some water damage.

[dysondiver]

wear it as it is , for what it is ,,, you will get your money back if you decide a less pre owned model is needed.