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Old 8 March 2013, 07:32 AM   #31
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Then, there's the fabulous city council

Charles Pugh, Presidential?

http://www.theurbanpolitico.com/2012...ent-broke.html

Kwame Kenyatta

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/...e_kenya_1.html

And former council woman Sharon McPhail, who's name comes up with every Detroit scandal over the last 20 years. Including our now infamous ex-mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.

Just to name a few ...

... I, unfortunately could go on.
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Old 8 March 2013, 07:41 AM   #32
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Good post but sad. A nice relief from "can I shower with my Rolex".
Those pictures show damage that had to have taken 20 years to get to that point.

Cities have come back. Miami Beach used to be a ghost town. I don't have answers but how about redeveloping pockets of affordable housing for military families? I promise you the crime rate around that type of neighborhood would drop.
Detroit was giving away houses for free. The only condition is the house must meet code.

Perhaps the Obama white house should issue a credit to cover repair costs to bring in good people. Pick a neighborhood and see what happens as a test case.
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Old 8 March 2013, 07:59 AM   #33
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Detroit was giving away houses for free. The only condition is the house must meet code.

Perhaps the Obama white house should issue a credit to cover repair costs to bring in good people. Pick a neighborhood and see what happens as a test case.
well, not exactly, unless you're Detroit Police living outside Detroit.

http://www.businessinsider.com/aband...it-2011-2?op=1
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Old 8 March 2013, 08:21 AM   #34
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well, not exactly, unless you're Detroit Police living outside Detroit.

http://www.businessinsider.com/aband...it-2011-2?op=1
The program is much larger than 100 properties.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/02/...to-keep-homes/

According to that article, it's any house that is foreclosed due to property taxes not paid.
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Old 8 March 2013, 09:25 AM   #35
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The program is much larger than 100 properties.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/02/...to-keep-homes/

According to that article, it's any house that is foreclosed due to property taxes not paid.
This was to keep even more houses from going into disrepair.

This was, basically, a back tax forgiveness program. You needed to already be squatting, and prove you were using it as your residence. Like a utility bill.

It was for people evicted by the county who, with no where else to go, went back to their home like they were never evicted and continued to maintain it to the best of their ability.
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The program is much larger than 100 properties.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/02/...to-keep-homes/

According to that article, it's any house that is foreclosed due to property taxes not paid.
Actually, after re-reading your post, most of the houses available for back taxes really are not livable. Scrappers go in almost immediately and take all that has value.

They need many thousands to get back to livable and as low as housing prices are in much of the city, you would put in way more than you could get back in even the long term.
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Old 8 March 2013, 10:05 AM   #37
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If you had $5-10 million, and teamed up with a construction company whose business isn't going so well for. you could demo and create a nice ass neighborhood. and if you got multiple investors on it, plenty of people could become rich. Unfortunatley detroits too big of a project for one person. It'd take billions in investors to bring it back, and once they did who knows if it'd be worth it.
The Illitch family that owns the Tigers and Red Wings, pretty much every parking venue near there is trying to do that. They built a new stadium for the Tigers a decade ago which is walking distance to the casinos and Greektown. They are now seeking help from the state to build a new stadium/retail center revival area for the wings in the same vicinity.

There are plenty of revival efforts but one of the biggest problems is the size of the city at 138 square miles. I am 30 years old and since I can remember people have been fantasizing about the "revival" of detroit. Sadly with the crumbling U.S. economy Detroit is going to be one of many. They even declared bankruptcy last week and were taken over by the state of Michigan.
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Old 8 March 2013, 10:33 AM   #38
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The Illitch family that owns the Tigers and Red Wings, pretty much every parking venue near there is trying to do that. They built a new stadium for the Tigers a decade ago which is walking distance to the casinos and Greektown. They are now seeking help from the state to build a new stadium/retail center revival area for the wings in the same vicinity.

There are plenty of revival efforts but one of the biggest problems is the size of the city at 138 square miles. I am 30 years old and since I can remember people have been fantasizing about the "revival" of detroit. Sadly with the crumbling U.S. economy Detroit is going to be one of many. They even declared bankruptcy last week and were taken over by the state of Michigan.
As a native Detroiter and current NY'er, I wouldn't walk that stretch between Tiger stadium and Greek Town or any other casino in Detroit for that matter. It's just not walkable by any city dweller's standards.

The city has a lot of great little neighborhoods. Unfortunately, like you said, the city is large in area. There are just too many gaps in between to favorably shrink the city and not leave out a lot of the good parts.

It would be smart to scale back the city and tear down the garbage but the city will lose a lot of the charm that makes it tolerable
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Old 8 March 2013, 11:04 AM   #39
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I live and work in oakland county (suburbs). detroit is worthless.... and yes its like that all over detroit. right now there are arsonists all over the city burning up abandoned homes, and they just sit there.... I could trade my sub in for 3 homes in detroit right now.
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